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bowtieboy
post May 21 2008, 04:56 PM
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Posting this to see if anyone would like to offer any information, opinions or insite on what might be the better car to run in stock class, to include Nationals ~ car would not be a daily driver (trying to weigh my options)......feel free to "shoot from the hip"

2002 Z06
- Cost around $25,000. Still holding up well at National level events, but the Lotus and GT3 seem to have a definite advantage. Shocks (Penski) are pretty expensive (around $3000 ?). No wheel hop. Tires are around $1300 a full set. Would need smoething to transport tires (or car)

2007 Mustang GT (Shelby conversion)- Cost around $25,000 (converted). Top car in class thus far. Warrantee. Shocks $750 Minimal to no wheel hop. Tires are around $1300. I believe race tires will all fit in car.

98-02 SS- Cost $15,000 (for one with lower miles). Seems to still be competetive (should have a better idea later in the year). Shocks $750. Front bar $150. Wheel hop. VictorRacers (for local events) $880 / Divisionals or Nationals $1000 Tires can fit in car (in a pinch).

The costs are not an overriding factor but due play into my thought process (thus my reasons for showing prices). I just would like to see what else I could be over looking or what someone might be willing to share. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Sam Strano
post May 21 2008, 06:45 PM
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Hmmm... 3 cars I know a little something about setting up.

I've had my hands in/all over most of the fastest C5's @ Nats the last few years. I obviously know the Mustang and the Camaro.

First, you don't need $3k shocks for the Z06... In fact I maintain you don't WANT them, as I've had to fix a few sets valving wise over the years.

The tires, well if you compare apples to apples there isn't a lot of difference, certainly between the 18's on the Vette and Mustang, some down to the 17's, but still talking a lot of coin for A6's @ in 275's currently around $271 per, up to $290 per for 295's. At that point, is $306 for Mustang 18's really that much different?

Setting up a Mustang (already a Shelby) is right about $1000. Pretty much the same as a Camaro if you use 4/3's, but the Camaro would cost more if you use 4/4's. A Z06 is about $1200 for shocks and the front bar I use. So that's about a wash.

The Mustang has the best ABS of the 3. Mileage is similar. You can't fit squat in a Z06 really. The Mustang has room inside, though trailer hitches are a pain on CS or Shelby's because of the bumper cover, vs. easy bolt ons for the Vette/F-body.

I think in the end you have 3 cars, 2 of which are for sure, known commodities in their classes. The SS I think can be damned fast and competitive, but not many are working on it and certainly not at breakneak speed. In the end, I still think the Camaro's ABS, all else being equal could hurt it vs. the Ford.

I don't think there is a truly wrong choice here. But I have to be honest, I do think there are 2 smarter choices than the SS.
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bowtieboy   At a crossroads......opinions   May 21 2008, 04:56 PM
KeithO   QUOTE (bowtieboy @ May 21 2008, 10:56 AM)...   May 21 2008, 05:22 PM
bowtieboy   QUOTE (KeithO @ May 21 2008, 12:22 PM) Ar...   May 21 2008, 05:41 PM
98_1LE   At this juncture the Shelby is most appealing. Ca...   May 21 2008, 05:59 PM
BigEnos   Do you really need Penskes (or similar) to make a ...   May 21 2008, 06:16 PM
sgarnett   The smart buy is probably the Shelby, though I don...   May 21 2008, 06:16 PM
Sam Strano   Hmmm... 3 cars I know a little something about se...   May 21 2008, 06:45 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (bowtieboy @ May 21 2008, 11:56 AM)...   May 21 2008, 08:21 PM
bowtieboy   QUOTE (mitchntx @ May 21 2008, 03:21 PM) ...   May 21 2008, 09:53 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (bowtieboy @ May 21 2008, 04:53 PM)...   May 22 2008, 12:43 AM
bowtieboy   QUOTE (mitchntx @ May 21 2008, 07:43 PM) ...   May 22 2008, 01:32 AM
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prockbp   QUOTE (bowtieboy @ May 21 2008, 08:32 PM)...   May 23 2008, 12:53 AM
ESPCamaro   I think it wise to go with the most reliable car a...   May 21 2008, 08:55 PM
bowtieboy   Chuck - I agree, from an autocross stand point, it...   May 21 2008, 09:11 PM
sgarnett   For economy, I think the ability to rotate your ti...   May 21 2008, 09:38 PM
prockbp   I like all of those cars. Isn't the new Cam...   May 21 2008, 11:57 PM
poSSum   QUOTE (prockbp @ May 21 2008, 06:57 PM) I...   May 24 2008, 10:08 PM
bowtieboy   QUOTE (poSSum @ May 24 2008, 05:08 PM) Ye...   May 26 2008, 02:49 AM
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BigEnos   QUOTE (poSSum @ May 24 2008, 04:08 PM) QU...   May 27 2008, 02:12 PM
GaryK   I'm bringing this thread up because I'm in...   Dec 20 2008, 11:35 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (GaryK @ Dec 20 2008, 05:35 AM) Due...   Dec 20 2008, 01:36 PM
GaryK   Mitch, I'm considering some other things that ...   Dec 20 2008, 02:45 PM
CMC #37   Wha? Here's the last event sign-up on the CMC ...   Dec 20 2008, 05:45 PM
GaryK   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Dec 20 2008, 12:45 PM) W...   Dec 20 2008, 08:23 PM
mitchntx   3 or 8 or 30 ... you are only racing 2 at a time ....   Dec 20 2008, 09:31 PM
GaryK   Forget it. I was asking about the original topic,...   Dec 20 2008, 09:39 PM
mitchntx   sorry ... didn't mean to turn it that way. jus...   Dec 20 2008, 10:38 PM
GaryK   Just trying to keep it on topic   Dec 21 2008, 12:48 AM
bowtieboy   Thought that I would offer some insite from the re...   Dec 21 2008, 07:07 PM
GaryK   Thanks for the input bowtieboy. I'm really le...   Dec 22 2008, 03:50 AM
Sam Strano   And I appreciate that... Besides, I've prove ...   Dec 22 2008, 06:44 PM

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