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To the Many Friends of Camaro:

We know it seems to many of you this day would never arrive, but on Monday, July 21, 2008, at 4:00 PM, EDT, Ed Peper, Chevrolet’s General Manager, and Ed Welburn, GM’s Director of Design, will unveil the details of the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro. This unveil will be the first step in answering the many questions (or should we say confirming the many rumors) surrounding the new Camaro.

Due to many factors, we are not able to extend an invitation to the entire Camaro community to join us in person for the dual, simultaneous unveilings that will take place in Warren, MI, and Los Angeles, CA.

We understand many of you may be disappointed not being able to see the car “in the flesh” that day (and therefore give you a reason to meet us at Indy in September); therefore, we are arranging a live webcast of the Warren unveiling on the GM Next website.

On Monday, July 21, just before 4:00 PM, EDT, go to http://camaro.gmnext.com and click on the "Camaro webcast" link at the top of the page (the Camaro link goes live July 17) to tune in the unveiling. If you cannot watch the webcast live, no worries, an archive of the broadcast will be available on GMNext.com and Chevy.com/Camaro.

Speaking of Chevy.com/Camaro, the next evolution of the site will also debut late Monday afternoon. The next evolution will include images of the production model, exclusive production animation, and a downloadable PDF file containing specifications on the 2010 Camaro. After the webcast, come on over and see the changes for yourself.

If all your questions are not answered during the reveal, a web-chat on the 2010 Camaro will take place the next day (Tuesday, July 22) at GMNext.com. The chat will start at 9:30 AM, EDT, and will feature experts from Chevrolet Marketing, Design and Engineering.

Since Camaro’s production announcement in August 2006, many people throughout GM have been passionately developing a car worthy of its heritage that features beautiful styling, segment-leading performance, excellent fuel economy and advanced technology. Quite honestly, we can't wait to show you all the work on Monday.

Sincerely,


Team Camaro
(Cheryl Pilcher; John Fitzpatrick & Scott Settlemire)

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What a piece of shit.

3800 pounds, 23mpg-- idiots.

[00 Trans Ram]

What a piece of shit.

3800 pounds, 23mpg-- idiots.

Don't hold your true feelings inside - tell us what you really think!

BTW, I'm about to purchase a G8GT, so I've been spending time on a few of their boards to learn about the car. There's a thread over there about the new Camaro. Seems like they kind of like it. Here's one post that I think sums it up nicely:

I am now seriously reconsidering my choice of the G8 GT as my next vehicle.

GM has “toned down” the styling ( inside & outside ) of the production Camaro – to the point where it no longer looks ( to me ) like a cartoon or parody of the 1969 version.

It looks to me like there might be several advantages – and few disadvantages [ FOR ME ] in choosing the Camaro over the G8 GT:

1 – It appears that ( with a much larger estimated annual production – of 80,000 to 100,000 ? ) and with it being built in Canada, instead of OZ, the Camaro will be something that one can actually order. Much like other GM automotive products.

Meaning: I could select the exact options I want and do not want, color, etc. – and in 6 or 7 weeks have the car.

[[ The G8 ‘tagging’ system & associated allocation system has meant that ‘my’ ( small ) dealer has had only 1 G8 GT, so far . . . and no way currently to order one equipped as I’d want. ]]

2 – It appears that the Camaro will be offered with a choice of interior colors - choices that include something besides black or black \ red. Like gray \ titanium – as in my current Corvette, for example.

3 – It appears likely that the V8 Camaro will be noticeably quicker than the G8 GT. GM is now saying ‘officially’ that the Camaro SS \ V8 with 6L80 automatic will be quicker than the G8 GT with the same A6.
Chevy says: 0 – 60 = 4.6 \ Quarter = 13.3.
Pontiac says \ said: 5.3 \ 13.8.

4 – GM \ Chevy have repeatedly stated that the pricing will be reasonable “. . . We expect it to be very competitive with the Mustang." - Cheryl Pilcher, Chevrolet Camaro product manager.

My interpretation of these statements is that a Camaro SS V8 with automatic & Brembo Brakes & a sunroof - and with interior trim I’d buy - would have an MSRP in the $33K - $34K range. Comparable to a G8 GT 2009 – and well under a G8 GXP, I expect. Perhaps even a bit less than $33K. We shall see how aggressively Chevy actually does set the base & option MSRPs – though we will probably not know until close to year’s end, it appears.

5 – It even appears that the Camaro may not require me to immediately change the exhaust system! Indications are that the V8 may actually sound like a V8 – right off the production line! Wow!

6 – Available with shift paddles on the steering wheel – I have had these now for a while, on 2 different GM vehicles – I like them & I am used to them.

7 – A HUD is even expected - by later next year.

8 – ** PERHAPS ** Chevy will have resolved the issues with the 6L80 automatic trans. – reported in the 2008 G8 GTs, and in 2006 & 2007 Corvettes. ** MAYBE ** . . .

Oh, and it can be equipped with a Torque Gauge. [ ???? ]

The disadvantages [ again: FOR ME ] are few.

0.5 – I will have to wait longer to buy.

1 - I like having a back seat – but would prefer the associated rear doors, on the G8 GT, as well. But I have managed with no rear seat at all now for a couple of years.

2 – The styling is not quite as appealing to me as the G8 GT. And I will need to see a few production examples in person – to verify that the styling really is something I will be OK with.

But based on what I have seen recently, I think it will be OK. Enough that I will now likely wait until Camaros start appearing at dealers before I decide what to do – where I had previously expected to try purchasing a G8 GT sometime this Fall.

Shift paddles, HUD, ???

This is the main problem. The Camaro may/may not be a nice car. But, when you are comparing it against a 4000lb, 4-door, touring car - there's something wrong. As I said in response to this post, the Camaro should be about the following words/sentiments: value, simple, horsepower, no-frills, good running gear, presence. It's not about being "comfortable" by having the latest in technology or interior materials.

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Shift paddles, HUD, ???

This is the main problem. The Camaro may/may not be a nice car. But, when you are comparing it against a 4000lb, 4-door, touring car - there's something wrong. As I said in response to this post, the Camaro should be about the following words/sentiments: value, simple, horsepower, no-frills, good running gear, presence. It's not about being "comfortable" by having the latest in technology or interior materials.

I guess it's hard for them to see that when they could sell all the loaded to the gills V8 SS' they could build in '02 while base V6 and V8 cars rotted on the lots. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)