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Sam Strano
post Jul 17 2008, 11:12 PM
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I'm now happy to announce we can take pre-orders on a Watts Link for all 82-02 F-bodies with stock diamter axle tubes. There is a version for bigger axle tubes (suck as 12-bolts, etc.) in the works.

They should be ready to ship in approximately 2-3 weeks. The unit is made by Fays2 who has been doing these for Mustangs for more than a few years. I not only trust the unit and have had all my questions answered, but will be putting one on my car as soon as possible. Jim and I have had a few discussions about the design and I'm happy to say he addressed my main concerns regarding approximate roll-center height. I wanted to make sure we could start @ stock height and adjust down as the owner sees fit. That has been done and implimented in this unit.

Details, specs and a photo on a 4th gen can be seen here:
http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetails.php...7&ModelID=7

(IMG:http://www.stranoparts.com/data/images/p30617181655.jpg)


Price is $650 Plus shipping. Shipping costs will normally not exceed $30 in most cases.

Fays2 own website has the pricing set lower, but after a discussion with Jim Fay, he informed me the prices are incorrect and will be changed.
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Major_Lee_Slow
post Jul 22 2008, 08:42 PM
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Sam,

I can see how the center pivot is adjustable up and down, which allows for roll center height adjustment. Is there also an allowance for vertical adjustment of the axle side of the horizontal links? I believe that optimum benefit of the Watt's linkage occurs when both horizontal bars are parallel to each other and to the axle and the vertical bar is perpendicular to these links when the car is sitting at ride height. If not, I think the non-optimal geometry has the potential to introduces scrub in either one or both turning directions.

Second, Do the rear brake lines which run along the axle need to be rerouted to clear the Watt's linkage axle mounts?
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post Jul 23 2008, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE (Major_Lee_Slow @ Jul 22 2008, 04:42 PM) *
Second, Do the rear brake lines which run along the axle need to be rerouted to clear the Watt's linkage axle mounts?

Is there any difference between 3-channel and 4-channel cars in the hard line routing on the axles tubes? I know there will be an extra rubber line from the chassis to the axle on the 4 channel cars, but is that only different at the center?
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post Jul 29 2008, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE (sgarnett @ Jul 22 2008, 10:30 PM) *
QUOTE (Major_Lee_Slow @ Jul 22 2008, 04:42 PM) *
Second, Do the rear brake lines which run along the axle need to be rerouted to clear the Watt's linkage axle mounts?

Is there any difference between 3-channel and 4-channel cars in the hard line routing on the axles tubes? I know there will be an extra rubber line from the chassis to the axle on the 4 channel cars, but is that only different at the center?

At least on my 2001 4-channel car, I'm pretty sure the brake lines will need to be rerouted a little to make room for the bracket clamp. Hopefully they only need to be raised an 1/8" or so to make room for the clamp underneath. They may need to go a little higher temporarily to get the bracket inserted between the line and the axle.

Is it possible to get enough clearance by just loosening and/or modifying the brake line brackets, or will the hard lines have to be bent a little? If so, what's the best way to accomplish it?
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post Jul 30 2008, 02:15 AM
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QUOTE (sgarnett @ Jul 29 2008, 09:03 AM) *
Is it possible to get enough clearance by just loosening and/or modifying the brake line brackets, or will the hard lines have to be bent a little? If so, what's the best way to accomplish it?


I usually bend them by hand. As long as you aren't a caveman you can feel when the tubing has had enough and is about to kink.

Mild steel is pretty forgiving. I buy lines when I need to and I've made 3rd gen lines fit a 4th gen rearend even though the 4th gen is 3"+ wider.

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Sam Strano   Watts Link   Jul 17 2008, 11:12 PM
poSSum   Can you tell someone that is slowly grasping the c...   Jul 17 2008, 11:39 PM
Bald54   I was just curious what Solo class those would be ...   Jul 17 2008, 11:44 PM
slowTA   Will this require a spring and shock change too? ...   Jul 18 2008, 12:00 AM
Sam Strano   Let's see if I can answer all 3 in one post......   Jul 18 2008, 12:20 AM
marka   Howdy, Sam, have you done a back to back test wit...   Jul 18 2008, 12:33 AM
Sam Strano   I have not, and don't claim to--yet. Nothing ...   Jul 18 2008, 12:38 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Jul 17 2008, 08...   Jul 18 2008, 12:46 AM
sgarnett   It looks like adjusting the roll center height cou...   Jul 18 2008, 12:59 AM
sgarnett   Sam, do you know if that will clear an AAM/SS diff...   Jul 18 2008, 01:25 AM
Sam Strano   Chris asked it if would require a spring and shock...   Jul 18 2008, 04:01 PM
Sam Strano   That's 2 orders so far. FWIW, I'm taking...   Jul 18 2008, 08:49 PM
00 SS   Sam, Does installation require any permanent chan...   Jul 19 2008, 03:55 AM
sgarnett   "True Bolt in design. No welding, cutting, an...   Jul 19 2008, 04:32 AM
00 SS   OK, so I missed that part.   Jul 19 2008, 06:01 PM
JimMueller   Hmm, so will this play nicely with those folks who...   Jul 20 2008, 01:09 AM
sgarnett   Eliminating lateral movement of the axle should ac...   Jul 20 2008, 03:05 AM
93FirehawkTA   I'm interested... but its gotta come in black   Jul 20 2008, 04:30 PM
BigEnos   QUOTE (93FirehawkTA @ Jul 20 2008, 10:30 ...   Jul 22 2008, 06:53 PM
Sam Strano   I'll have to check on black. I'm not sure...   Jul 21 2008, 03:32 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Jul 21 2008, 11:32 AM...   Jul 21 2008, 06:28 PM
2manyfbods   are there anymore pics of it ?   Jul 21 2008, 08:50 PM
JimMueller   I wonder if the welded-in UE PHB lowering brackets...   Jul 21 2008, 09:16 PM
Sam Strano   It mounts to the stock location PHB body and brace...   Jul 21 2008, 09:27 PM
Eugenio_SS   I'm interested in one... if they don't com...   Jul 21 2008, 09:54 PM
Sam Strano   They can't ship together anyway.... Besid...   Jul 21 2008, 10:03 PM
sgarnett   Judging from the photo, I think the body side may ...   Jul 22 2008, 12:12 AM
93FirehawkTA   Another question... any issues with exhaust cleara...   Jul 22 2008, 03:09 AM
Sam Strano   QUOTE (93FirehawkTA @ Jul 21 2008, 11:09 ...   Jul 22 2008, 03:51 PM
Sam Strano   Color update: Fays2 has used Red since they start...   Jul 22 2008, 05:36 PM
veinharvest   Hey Sam, I want to play too! Color doesn...   Jul 22 2008, 06:19 PM
Sam Strano   QUOTE (veinharvest @ Jul 22 2008, 02:19 P...   Jul 22 2008, 06:31 PM
veinharvest   If you want to play, you need to go order it (easi...   Jul 22 2008, 08:32 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Jul 22 2008, 01:36 PM...   Jul 22 2008, 07:10 PM
JimMueller   I chose black for my parts because I don't lik...   Jul 22 2008, 06:20 PM
Sam Strano   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Jul 22 2008, 02:20 PM...   Jul 22 2008, 06:31 PM
Cr0usEEE   and I think I am 3rd or 4th....plus I don't ca...   Jul 22 2008, 08:22 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (Cr0usEEE @ Jul 22 2008, 03:22 PM) ...   Jul 31 2008, 08:27 PM
Major_Lee_Slow   Sam, I can see how the center pivot is adjustable...   Jul 22 2008, 08:42 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Major_Lee_Slow @ Jul 22 2008, 04:4...   Jul 23 2008, 02:30 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Jul 22 2008, 10:30 PM) ...   Jul 29 2008, 02:03 PM
nape   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Jul 29 2008, 09:03 AM) ...   Jul 30 2008, 02:15 AM
Sam Strano   QUOTE (Major_Lee_Slow @ Jul 22 2008, 04:4...   Jul 23 2008, 03:41 PM
Rampant   I will be wanting a Moser 12 bolt version. I need...   Jul 23 2008, 02:19 AM
sgarnett   The links should be set up to be equal in length. ...   Jul 23 2008, 04:46 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Jul 23 2008, 12:46 PM) ...   Jul 24 2008, 12:06 PM
Major_Lee_Slow   The you tube video isn't working. All Watt...   Jul 23 2008, 05:10 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Major_Lee_Slow @ Jul 23 2008, 01:1...   Jul 23 2008, 05:58 PM
Sam Strano   The video just worked for me. Try again. http...   Jul 23 2008, 05:49 PM
Major_Lee_Slow   What I mean is that the "arms" of the ax...   Jul 23 2008, 06:04 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Major_Lee_Slow @ Jul 23 2008, 02:0...   Jul 23 2008, 06:50 PM
Major_Lee_Slow   Ok, I see it now, they are angled up and down (Man...   Jul 23 2008, 10:41 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Major_Lee_Slow @ Jul 23 2008, 06:4...   Jul 23 2008, 11:51 PM
Sam Strano   Friction/clamping is what holds the watts in place...   Jul 23 2008, 10:54 PM
Sam Strano   The brake lines are easily pushed around. It won...   Jul 30 2008, 04:32 PM
trackbird   Yes, there are some posts missing. Yes, I moved th...   Jul 30 2008, 05:07 PM
Sam Strano   Appreciate it.   Jul 30 2008, 07:47 PM
sgarnett   Well, my mid-August test-n-tune has been cut from ...   Jul 31 2008, 09:42 PM
Sam Strano   Just spoke to Fay2 regarding an update. Things ar...   Aug 1 2008, 05:22 PM
sgarnett   Will black be available at the same time as red, o...   Aug 2 2008, 10:04 AM
Sam Strano   Making both colors in the initial batch, but the s...   Aug 2 2008, 08:11 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Aug 2 2008, 04:11 PM)...   Aug 4 2008, 12:07 PM
JimMueller   Doing some more thinking on this... I was under th...   Aug 2 2008, 09:59 PM
Sam Strano   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Aug 2 2008, 05:59 PM)...   Aug 4 2008, 07:45 PM
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Sam Strano   Trying to for a new update.... Now have instructi...   Aug 21 2008, 04:50 PM
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tpunk   QUOTE (Rampant @ Aug 21 2008, 09:28 PM) Q...   Aug 22 2008, 04:15 AM
Sam Strano   The car the prototype was tested on has a 12-bolt ...   Aug 22 2008, 04:06 PM
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Sam Strano   And the latest update......... Starting t...   Aug 29 2008, 05:12 PM
veinharvest   Heh heh heh! Let me know when you want to pl...   Aug 31 2008, 11:45 PM
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