[Crazy Canuck]

C6-Z06 vs Nissan GT-R vs Shelby Super-Snake vs any other suggestion

Chances are they would be in black.

[Spruill242]

I don't know about all that warrenty stuff. Would have to search that on your own. But the latest Car & Driver had the GTR kick the pants off of the Viper, ZO6 and GT3RS. Everything I've read says the GTR likes to be abused and tossed around on track. And noone has writen a bad report on one yet. I also got to see one in person here in Va Beach at a baseball game. In person the car is absolutely beatiful. It has body lines that pictures just can't capture and it has a VERY aggresive nose. If they came in a true manual I would think it would be a no brainer (well for me anyway)

[Mojave]

I don't know about all that warrenty stuff. Would have to search that on your own. But the latest Car & Driver had the GTR kick the pants off of the Viper, ZO6 and GT3RS. Everything I've read says the GTR likes to be abused and tossed around on track. And noone has writen a bad report on one yet. I also got to see one in person here in Va Beach at a baseball game. In person the car is absolutely beatiful. It has body lines that pictures just can't capture and it has a VERY aggresive nose. If they came in a true manual I would think it would be a no brainer (well for me anyway)

The GTR magazine tests are all very fishy. Example:

Automobile: 11.6@ 126
Car and Driver 12.6@111

Where in the world did Automobile find 1 sec and 15 mph trap speed on an automatic, AWD car with launch control!?!?! 15 mph difference in trap speed on car that weighs 3800 lbs is around 125 hp difference. Nissan already admitted they cheated on the 'ring test with slicks and more boost, so how many of the magazine cars were cheater cars? If you look at some of the track results at Buttonwillow, the GTR had the fastest times in the slowest portion of the track. No AWD Playstation magic can change the fact that the GTR is heavy heavy heavy. The Z06 tires were worn and beat Michelins, and the GTR comes with some very soft, very special Bridgestones that appear to be different from the regular tires of the same model. Something is up.

Not to hate on the GTR, but everything is very, very, very, very fishy. I can't wait to see some ET's and trap speeds for actual customer cars. My guess is they will be mid to high 12's at under 114 mph, and when you compare a Z06 on R's to a GTR on R's, the Z06 is going to come out on top.




To keep my post on topic, I say Z06 all the way. The Mustang is porky, and a cammed LS7 will make more power than most will ever need on a RR car. Fix the front brakes, get some weight out of it, and go really, really fast.

This post has been edited by Mojave: Aug 29 2008, 12:25 AM

[BigEnos]

I don't know about all that warrenty stuff. Would have to search that on your own. But the latest Car & Driver had the GTR kick the pants off of the Viper, ZO6 and GT3RS. Everything I've read says the GTR likes to be abused and tossed around on track. And noone has writen a bad report on one yet. I also got to see one in person here in Va Beach at a baseball game. In person the car is absolutely beatiful. It has body lines that pictures just can't capture and it has a VERY aggresive nose. If they came in a true manual I would think it would be a no brainer (well for me anyway)

The GTR magazine tests are all very fishy. Example:

Automobile: 11.6@ 126
Car and Driver 12.6@111

Where in the world did Automobile find 1 sec and 15 mph trap speed on an automatic, AWD car with launch control!?!?! 15 mph difference in trap speed on car that weighs 3800 lbs is around 125 hp difference. Nissan already admitted they cheated on the 'ring test with slicks and more boost, so how many of the magazine cars were cheater cars? If you look at some of the track results at Buttonwillow, the GTR had the fastest times in the slowest portion of the track. No AWD Playstation magic can change the fact that the GTR is heavy heavy heavy. The Z06 tires were worn and beat Michelins, and the GTR comes with some very soft, very special Bridgestones that appear to be different from the regular tires of the same model. Something is up.

Not to hate on the GTR, but everything is very, very, very, very fishy. I can't wait to see some ET's and trap speeds for actual customer cars. My guess is they will be mid to high 12's at under 114 mph, and when you compare a Z06 on R's to a GTR on R's, the Z06 is going to come out on top.




To keep my post on topic, I say Z06 all the way. The Mustang is porky, and a cammed LS7 will make more power than most will ever need on a RR car. Fix the front brakes, get some weight out of it, and go really, really fast.

This doesn't surprise me a bit. When the last gen Supras came out and they were getting insane times that just didn't seem to correlate to the power/weight ratio everyone was like (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) But, a couple years later when the mag's went back to test "normal" cars they just couldn't replicate the numbers. A guy from TRD admitted that they had "upgraded" the press-fleet cars at the debut to get the hype up. This is business-as-usual for japanese automakers. Some of their achievements are smoke and mirrors.

That being said, the GT-R is still a cool car IMHO. And look at the Supra resale numbers now, GT-R might be similar.