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post Aug 28 2008, 05:33 PM
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C6-Z06 vs Nissan GT-R vs Shelby Super-Snake vs any other suggestion

Chances are they would be in black.
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00 Trans Ram
post Aug 29 2008, 01:30 PM
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You're right, Eugenio - it's cheaper and easier to buy a race car already built. I built my own, and it's the last time I'll do that. If/When I ever look for another one, I'll look to find something that was fast, but not podium (drives up price). Also, something that's had between 2 and 5 races on it since any major work (engine, tranny, etc). That way it's still fresh, but proven.

BTW, I drive a G8GT as a daily driver.

That's very interesting about the GTR on slicks - I was really wondering how a 3800lbs, 4-door car with similar power was running the 'Ring at faster times than a Z06.
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post Aug 29 2008, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Aug 29 2008, 08:30 AM) *
You're right, Eugenio - it's cheaper and easier to buy a race car already built. I built my own, and it's the last time I'll do that. If/When I ever look for another one, I'll look to find something that was fast, but not podium (drives up price). Also, something that's had between 2 and 5 races on it since any major work (engine, tranny, etc). That way it's still fresh, but proven.


And I've found just the opposite.

It's a lot cheaper to build it than to rebuild it. Buying a used race car is buying someone else's "engineering". We've worked on a few of those "fresh and sorted" cars and they were absolute POS. The standing around scratching your head trying to figure out what the builder was thinking and when a gremlin arises, tracking down the issue in an unfamiliar build are just 2 examples of what I'm talking about.

Granted, it gets you on the track faster but you'll spend 1/2 -2/3 the purchase price making it faster on the track.

my experience.
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post Aug 29 2008, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 29 2008, 09:10 AM) *
QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Aug 29 2008, 08:30 AM) *
You're right, Eugenio - it's cheaper and easier to buy a race car already built. I built my own, and it's the last time I'll do that. If/When I ever look for another one, I'll look to find something that was fast, but not podium (drives up price). Also, something that's had between 2 and 5 races on it since any major work (engine, tranny, etc). That way it's still fresh, but proven.


And I've found just the opposite.

It's a lot cheaper to build it than to rebuild it. Buying a used race car is buying someone else's "engineering". We've worked on a few of those "fresh and sorted" cars and they were absolute POS. The standing around scratching your head trying to figure out what the builder was thinking and when a gremlin arises, tracking down the issue in an unfamiliar build are just 2 examples of what I'm talking about.

Granted, it gets you on the track faster but you'll spend 1/2 -2/3 the purchase price making it faster on the track.

my experience.



I'll trust your experience. You've got more than me!

Another option that would probably take care of those concerns is to rent a racecar when you go to the track. For about $500-800 per day, you can get a good car to have fun with. It may sound like a lot, but just getting into a car you'll be happy with (no Spec Miata, I'm assuming) will cost you $30k. At $750 per day, that's 40 race days. Assuming 1 per month, that'll get you racing for over 3 years. But you're in Canada, so it could last longer.

The nice thing about renting is that you don't have to worry about a thing. Arrive and drive. No hauling, no changing tires, no upkeep, no storage for the winter. Yeah, you have to drive someone else's car, but they can usually help you set it up pretty quickly. And after a few races, they'll have the car setup like you like it before it gets to the track.
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Eugenio_SS   Life is short   Aug 28 2008, 05:33 PM
trackbird   Are you going shopping? C6 Z06 is a hell of a ca...   Aug 28 2008, 05:36 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (trackbird @ Aug 28 2008, 01:36 PM)...   Aug 28 2008, 06:09 PM
CrashTestDummy   I've been thinking of a Z06 myself. There...   Aug 28 2008, 05:39 PM
93FirehawkTA   What is the purpose for the vehicle? Track, daily ...   Aug 28 2008, 05:51 PM
Eugenio_SS   would be a toy combo street and some track. I don...   Aug 28 2008, 06:07 PM
Eugenio_SS   my heart keeps coming back to the Vette, though......   Aug 28 2008, 06:13 PM
Eugenio_SS   talking of the zr1... isn't just easier for me...   Aug 28 2008, 06:29 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Aug 28 2008, 01:29 PM...   Aug 28 2008, 09:43 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 28 2008, 05:43 PM) ...   Aug 29 2008, 01:44 PM
CMC #37   Z06 for me, ZR1 is a dream!   Aug 28 2008, 06:36 PM
Eugenio_SS   the other possibility... keep having fun as a str...   Aug 28 2008, 06:47 PM
CMC #37   Get the Evora and put it in the SS.   Aug 28 2008, 06:54 PM
jensend   Not sure how the ZR1 will perform on track. One o...   Aug 28 2008, 07:16 PM
00 Trans Ram   For the amt of money you're talking (about ...   Aug 28 2008, 07:46 PM
27Cam02   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Aug 28 2008, 03:46 ...   Aug 28 2008, 09:36 PM
Eugenio_SS   hmmm.... from ppl's experience, it's alway...   Aug 28 2008, 08:49 PM
BigEnos   I saw a black R8 on my way to work one morning. Pu...   Aug 28 2008, 09:04 PM
EchoMirage   should read up on the GTRs computer before decidin...   Aug 28 2008, 09:34 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (EchoMirage @ Aug 28 2008, 04:34 PM...   Aug 28 2008, 10:00 PM
Spruill242   I don't know about all that warrenty stuff. Wo...   Aug 28 2008, 10:29 PM
Mojave   QUOTE (Spruill242 @ Aug 28 2008, 05:29 PM...   Aug 29 2008, 12:24 AM
BigEnos   QUOTE (Mojave @ Aug 28 2008, 06:24 PM) QU...   Aug 29 2008, 02:37 PM
CMC #37   I've been in a lot of new Z06s as an instructo...   Aug 29 2008, 01:04 AM
Bram   c6 z06 and keep the ss   Aug 29 2008, 02:56 AM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (Bram @ Aug 28 2008, 10:56 PM) c6 z...   Aug 29 2008, 01:47 PM
Rob Hood   Crossed flags for me...any day of the week.   Aug 29 2008, 05:35 AM
00 Trans Ram   You're right, Eugenio - it's cheaper and e...   Aug 29 2008, 01:30 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Aug 29 2008, 08:30 ...   Aug 29 2008, 02:10 PM
00 Trans Ram   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 29 2008, 09:10 AM) ...   Aug 29 2008, 02:39 PM
Eugenio_SS   So Mitch, what you look for when looking for a rac...   Aug 29 2008, 02:22 PM
Torque   Another vote for the Z06 option but very curious a...   Aug 29 2008, 04:35 PM
Mojave   QUOTE (Torque @ Aug 29 2008, 11:35 AM) An...   Aug 29 2008, 05:42 PM
00 Trans Ram   I wonder if people replace the calipers? At ...   Aug 29 2008, 06:35 PM
Torque   ok, that makes sense. It's a shame that it wo...   Aug 29 2008, 07:03 PM
Spruill242   Why not save some money and buy a C5 ZO6?? Use the...   Aug 29 2008, 08:48 PM
Eugenio_SS   this one looks good: http://www.canadatrader.com/r...   Sep 11 2008, 09:48 PM
SSTAT   GTR's suck. I passed one on track like it was ...   Sep 12 2008, 01:34 AM
Rob Hood   Right now there is a BLACK C6 Z06 at a dealer here...   Sep 12 2008, 03:45 AM
Eugenio_SS   markup is illegal in Canada, actually... so no dea...   Sep 12 2008, 03:22 PM
BryanL   I thought Z06's were going for 10k off sticker...   Sep 13 2008, 05:58 PM
soulless   Well my personal dream car is an Ultima GTR with a...   Sep 26 2008, 08:30 PM
bsim   Life is too short not to get one of these... And ...   Sep 29 2008, 03:41 AM
CrashTestDummy   Wow, it will be twice as hard to keep the diff in ...   Sep 29 2008, 04:21 AM
StanIROCZ   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Sep 29 2008, 12:2...   Oct 10 2008, 02:47 PM
SStrokerAce   ZO6.... any day of the week. Best pushrod V8 ever...   Oct 10 2008, 01:23 PM
Eugenio_SS   someone bought a brand new toy, but not telling wh...   Dec 17 2008, 04:50 AM
Bram   Congrats and do u already have it hiding in your g...   Dec 17 2008, 04:57 AM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (Bram @ Dec 16 2008, 11:57 PM) Cong...   Dec 17 2008, 05:06 AM
Bram   love to but leaving for California on sat.I'l...   Dec 17 2008, 05:35 AM

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