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Sam Strano
post Jul 17 2008, 11:12 PM
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I'm now happy to announce we can take pre-orders on a Watts Link for all 82-02 F-bodies with stock diamter axle tubes. There is a version for bigger axle tubes (suck as 12-bolts, etc.) in the works.

They should be ready to ship in approximately 2-3 weeks. The unit is made by Fays2 who has been doing these for Mustangs for more than a few years. I not only trust the unit and have had all my questions answered, but will be putting one on my car as soon as possible. Jim and I have had a few discussions about the design and I'm happy to say he addressed my main concerns regarding approximate roll-center height. I wanted to make sure we could start @ stock height and adjust down as the owner sees fit. That has been done and implimented in this unit.

Details, specs and a photo on a 4th gen can be seen here:
http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetails.php...7&ModelID=7

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Price is $650 Plus shipping. Shipping costs will normally not exceed $30 in most cases.

Fays2 own website has the pricing set lower, but after a discussion with Jim Fay, he informed me the prices are incorrect and will be changed.
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Sam Strano
post Aug 29 2008, 05:12 PM
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And the latest update.........









Starting to ship out today. There is an aluminum spacer that wasn't completed on time. Fays2 is sending those out at their cost by 2-day air when they arrive (due next Tuesday). Because these are shipping ground freight the spacers and Watts Links should arrive at just about the same time.
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post Sep 4 2008, 05:11 AM
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Mine arrived today. The instruction book is very thorough, with lots of color photos.

The axle clamp/brackets seem to be sized for a 9" and/or 12 bolt, and there are split-tube steel shims included to presumably fit the smaller 10 bolt axle tubes. That's the one obvious detail missign from the instructions.

Also, the instructions specify reinstalling the passenger-side PHR and PHR brace bolts, installing the nuts loosely with Loctite, reinstalling the driver-side PHR brace bolts with Loctite, and then torquing them all. Personally, I'd just install the passenger side bolts but leave the nuts off or just temporarily thread them on dry and loose, then install and torque the driver-side bolts with Loctite, and then install and torque the passenger-side nuts with Loctite.

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post Sep 4 2008, 01:30 PM
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I got mine yesterday...and gone through the instruction manual before installing tonight. I have two questions.

1) What spacer is required for the "stock" rear sway bar? (1st page in manual)
2) It does not specifically say...but should the rear axle/car be on the ground during install?? I mean have the rear up on ramps instead or supporting the car on jack stands from the frame rails. My impression is that ramps is the ticket but it is not called out in the instructions.
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post Sep 4 2008, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE (Cr0usEEE @ Sep 4 2008, 09:30 AM) *
I got mine yesterday...and gone through the instruction manual before installing tonight. I have two questions.

1) What spacer is required for the "stock" rear sway bar? (1st page in manual)
2) It does not specifically say...but should the rear axle/car be on the ground during install?? I mean have the rear up on ramps instead or supporting the car on jack stands from the frame rails. My impression is that ramps is the ticket but it is not called out in the instructions.


It does not say drive on lift preferred?
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post Sep 4 2008, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE (shortbus @ Sep 4 2008, 10:07 AM) *
QUOTE (Cr0usEEE @ Sep 4 2008, 09:30 AM) *
I got mine yesterday...and gone through the instruction manual before installing tonight. I have two questions.

1) What spacer is required for the "stock" rear sway bar? (1st page in manual)
2) It does not specifically say...but should the rear axle/car be on the ground during install?? I mean have the rear up on ramps instead or supporting the car on jack stands from the frame rails. My impression is that ramps is the ticket but it is not called out in the instructions.


It does not say drive on lift preferred?


It does say drive on lift preferred...but then also it doesnt say at what position the axle should be relative to the body. Should it be at nominal? Fully compressed? Fully droop? I know what it should be at but the instructions don't specifically say it. What is the impact if you install the axle at full droop?? The lateral bars will be parallel throughout the travel range so it really shouldn't matter.
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post Sep 4 2008, 02:35 PM
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You'll want those bars to be level when the car is sitting on the ground. So, using a drive on lift it will be easier to install this while thing.

I suppose you can install it all with the car all jacked up... but when you are done those bars should be level.

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Sam Strano   Watts Link   Jul 17 2008, 11:12 PM
poSSum   Can you tell someone that is slowly grasping the c...   Jul 17 2008, 11:39 PM
Bald54   I was just curious what Solo class those would be ...   Jul 17 2008, 11:44 PM
slowTA   Will this require a spring and shock change too? ...   Jul 18 2008, 12:00 AM
Sam Strano   Let's see if I can answer all 3 in one post......   Jul 18 2008, 12:20 AM
marka   Howdy, Sam, have you done a back to back test wit...   Jul 18 2008, 12:33 AM
Sam Strano   I have not, and don't claim to--yet. Nothing ...   Jul 18 2008, 12:38 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Jul 17 2008, 08...   Jul 18 2008, 12:46 AM
sgarnett   It looks like adjusting the roll center height cou...   Jul 18 2008, 12:59 AM
sgarnett   Sam, do you know if that will clear an AAM/SS diff...   Jul 18 2008, 01:25 AM
Sam Strano   Chris asked it if would require a spring and shock...   Jul 18 2008, 04:01 PM
Sam Strano   That's 2 orders so far. FWIW, I'm taking...   Jul 18 2008, 08:49 PM
00 SS   Sam, Does installation require any permanent chan...   Jul 19 2008, 03:55 AM
sgarnett   "True Bolt in design. No welding, cutting, an...   Jul 19 2008, 04:32 AM
00 SS   OK, so I missed that part.   Jul 19 2008, 06:01 PM
JimMueller   Hmm, so will this play nicely with those folks who...   Jul 20 2008, 01:09 AM
sgarnett   Eliminating lateral movement of the axle should ac...   Jul 20 2008, 03:05 AM
93FirehawkTA   I'm interested... but its gotta come in black   Jul 20 2008, 04:30 PM
BigEnos   QUOTE (93FirehawkTA @ Jul 20 2008, 10:30 ...   Jul 22 2008, 06:53 PM
Sam Strano   I'll have to check on black. I'm not sure...   Jul 21 2008, 03:32 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Jul 21 2008, 11:32 AM...   Jul 21 2008, 06:28 PM
2manyfbods   are there anymore pics of it ?   Jul 21 2008, 08:50 PM
JimMueller   I wonder if the welded-in UE PHB lowering brackets...   Jul 21 2008, 09:16 PM
Sam Strano   It mounts to the stock location PHB body and brace...   Jul 21 2008, 09:27 PM
Eugenio_SS   I'm interested in one... if they don't com...   Jul 21 2008, 09:54 PM
Sam Strano   They can't ship together anyway.... Besid...   Jul 21 2008, 10:03 PM
sgarnett   Judging from the photo, I think the body side may ...   Jul 22 2008, 12:12 AM
93FirehawkTA   Another question... any issues with exhaust cleara...   Jul 22 2008, 03:09 AM
Sam Strano   QUOTE (93FirehawkTA @ Jul 21 2008, 11:09 ...   Jul 22 2008, 03:51 PM
Sam Strano   Color update: Fays2 has used Red since they start...   Jul 22 2008, 05:36 PM
veinharvest   Hey Sam, I want to play too! Color doesn...   Jul 22 2008, 06:19 PM
Sam Strano   QUOTE (veinharvest @ Jul 22 2008, 02:19 P...   Jul 22 2008, 06:31 PM
veinharvest   If you want to play, you need to go order it (easi...   Jul 22 2008, 08:32 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Jul 22 2008, 01:36 PM...   Jul 22 2008, 07:10 PM
JimMueller   I chose black for my parts because I don't lik...   Jul 22 2008, 06:20 PM
Sam Strano   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Jul 22 2008, 02:20 PM...   Jul 22 2008, 06:31 PM
Cr0usEEE   and I think I am 3rd or 4th....plus I don't ca...   Jul 22 2008, 08:22 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (Cr0usEEE @ Jul 22 2008, 03:22 PM) ...   Jul 31 2008, 08:27 PM
Major_Lee_Slow   Sam, I can see how the center pivot is adjustable...   Jul 22 2008, 08:42 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Major_Lee_Slow @ Jul 22 2008, 04:4...   Jul 23 2008, 02:30 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Jul 22 2008, 10:30 PM) ...   Jul 29 2008, 02:03 PM
nape   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Jul 29 2008, 09:03 AM) ...   Jul 30 2008, 02:15 AM
Sam Strano   QUOTE (Major_Lee_Slow @ Jul 22 2008, 04:4...   Jul 23 2008, 03:41 PM
Rampant   I will be wanting a Moser 12 bolt version. I need...   Jul 23 2008, 02:19 AM
sgarnett   The links should be set up to be equal in length. ...   Jul 23 2008, 04:46 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Jul 23 2008, 12:46 PM) ...   Jul 24 2008, 12:06 PM
Major_Lee_Slow   The you tube video isn't working. All Watt...   Jul 23 2008, 05:10 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Major_Lee_Slow @ Jul 23 2008, 01:1...   Jul 23 2008, 05:58 PM
Sam Strano   The video just worked for me. Try again. http...   Jul 23 2008, 05:49 PM
Major_Lee_Slow   What I mean is that the "arms" of the ax...   Jul 23 2008, 06:04 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Major_Lee_Slow @ Jul 23 2008, 02:0...   Jul 23 2008, 06:50 PM
Major_Lee_Slow   Ok, I see it now, they are angled up and down (Man...   Jul 23 2008, 10:41 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Major_Lee_Slow @ Jul 23 2008, 06:4...   Jul 23 2008, 11:51 PM
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Sam Strano   Appreciate it.   Jul 30 2008, 07:47 PM
sgarnett   Well, my mid-August test-n-tune has been cut from ...   Jul 31 2008, 09:42 PM
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veinharvest   Heh heh heh! Let me know when you want to pl...   Aug 31 2008, 11:45 PM
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Cr0usEEE   I got mine yesterday...and gone through the instru...   Sep 4 2008, 01:30 PM
shortbus   QUOTE (Cr0usEEE @ Sep 4 2008, 09:30 AM) I...   Sep 4 2008, 02:07 PM
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