Need a big @$$ wing for the Camaro - F-Body Road Racing and Autocross Forums

It's been a while since I've posted. I've been trying to finish college getting my BS in computer science. I'm down to my senior project which is going to be a ghetto imitation of the Bugatti airbrake system on the Veyron. I'm sure some of you have seen it, and apparently at speeds above 115 ish once it snaps up to a 55 degree angle it provides around .6 g of negative acceleration on the heavy 4,500 pound Veyron.

(IMG:http://www.bugatti.com/pages/101/bildspalte/verzoegerung02.jpg)
(IMG:http://ghettolanparty.org/gallery/gallery-storage/CamaroRacecar/ghettomaro_2007_1.sized.jpg)

The ole Camaro weighs 2,875 on the scales so hopefully I can get some free braking out of this and graduate at the same time. The system will be controlled by a microcontroller and circuit setup I have to design, and will change degree based on the speed of the car. So for autocross speeds I can have a very high angle of attack, and as speed increases it can drop back so as to not kill the drag. Then of course under braking it will snap up to an appropirate angle to give some additional drag on the car. I have to test all of this along the way with accelerometers and what not to see if it makes any difference.

So the question is, does anyone know where to get a Camaro sized airfoil that isn't $1,100. After googling for a while the only one I could find is a G-stream wing, but I don't really want to blow that much on an airfoil. All of the ebay knockoffs are only 56 inches wide or so, and would look goofy on the wide Camaro. I also need a wider chord so I can get some good drag out of the airbrake so a silly 6 inch wide ebay wing wont do me much good.

Anyway thanks for any ideas or help! I'm still in the Dallas/Fort Worth area if that makes any different on an airfoil supplier.

-Kyle

This post has been edited by SuperCricket: Jan 23 2009, 08:11 AM

SuperCricket View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 08:05 AM Post #1
Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 176 Joined: 23-January 04 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 149	It's been a while since I've posted. I've been trying to finish college getting my BS in computer science. I'm down to my senior project which is going to be a ghetto imitation of the Bugatti airbrake system on the Veyron. I'm sure some of you have seen it, and apparently at speeds above 115 ish once it snaps up to a 55 degree angle it provides around .6 g of negative acceleration on the heavy 4,500 pound Veyron. (IMG:http://www.bugatti.com/pages/101/bildspalte/verzoegerung02.jpg) (IMG:http://ghettolanparty.org/gallery/gallery-storage/CamaroRacecar/ghettomaro_2007_1.sized.jpg) The ole Camaro weighs 2,875 on the scales so hopefully I can get some free braking out of this and graduate at the same time. The system will be controlled by a microcontroller and circuit setup I have to design, and will change degree based on the speed of the car. So for autocross speeds I can have a very high angle of attack, and as speed increases it can drop back so as to not kill the drag. Then of course under braking it will snap up to an appropirate angle to give some additional drag on the car. I have to test all of this along the way with accelerometers and what not to see if it makes any difference. So the question is, does anyone know where to get a Camaro sized airfoil that isn't $1,100. After googling for a while the only one I could find is a G-stream wing, but I don't really want to blow that much on an airfoil. All of the ebay knockoffs are only 56 inches wide or so, and would look goofy on the wide Camaro. I also need a wider chord so I can get some good drag out of the airbrake so a silly 6 inch wide ebay wing wont do me much good. Anyway thanks for any ideas or help! I'm still in the Dallas/Fort Worth area if that makes any different on an airfoil supplier. -Kyle This post has been edited by SuperCricket: Jan 23 2009, 08:11 AM

CrashTestDummy View Member Profile	Jan 23 2009, 04:22 PM Post #2
Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,874 Joined: 3-July 04 From: Pearland, Texas Member No.: 385	Sounds like you're set on a wing that also acts as an air brake. That'll need to be pretty strong to handle the forces when it's flipped up into the air. How about designing anti-lift panels like on the NASCAR Stock Car roofs that kill their aerodynamics when they get sideways? A couple of pieces in the back half of the roof could be hydraulically-operated to pop up when you mash the brake pedal, or when brake pressure reaches a certain level, or over a certain speed? Such panels would probably be in a better place on the car to provide more braking power than back behind the passenger compartment like a wing would be. People will also flip with such a wing, though. I don't know of any sanctioning body that allows 'movable wings'. Cool for a project, but useless anywhere but the street or a DE.