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NU_BLUE
post Sep 19 2009, 09:10 PM
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I have a question. Most of you on here are good welders. I was wondering where ya'll learned it? Do you just pick up over the yrs. or were you trained, etc?

I've played around with a stick welder more times than I remember and I've got the basic idea from welding on farm equipment, etc. However, I would like to get into MIG and TIG welding....I'm just curious where to start.
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post Sep 22 2009, 02:18 PM
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Still learning!

I simply went and bought a good, but not expensive, Miller 110v mig machine. It came with all the stuff to weld - gas lines, helmet, etc. I simply had to pick up a gas cylinder from the local store.

I started by watching some videos. The best ones are the ones that show you what the weld is actually doing - not the ones with a bright spot of light and some guy talking. Simply put, you want to see some guy make a puddle, move a few mm, make another puddle, repeat. Then, I started sticking metal together.

It was bad at first. I'd set the wire speed too high, or the power too low, and it'd sputter all over the place and do weird things. I finally figured most of it out. But, a HUGE help is to find a print out a guide that tells you suggested settings for what you're welding. You may change a little, but it'll get you in the ballpark.

Honestly, and others (who are better than me at this) may disagree, it's MUCH more of an art than a science. Sure, the analyzation of it is all science. But, actually DOING it is pure art. You have to picture the finished product in your mind, then translate that to your hands.

Oh, another thing that helps me a LOT is to practice right before I weld something. I've found that, because I weld once every blue moon, I get out of practice. If I start welding what I want to weld, I get in the rhythm just about 1" from the finish, while most of the weld looks like bird poop. But, if I waste some time and wire running a few beads on a similar thickness of metal before working on the real piece, I get much better welds once I actually start.

Finally, if it's something important, I take it to a pro. On my car, I've welded my side mirror mounts, my camera mount, and a few other things that don't matter. But, when I needed custom front LCAs made, I didn't even try. I just brought them to my friend (pro welder) to TIG and make.
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post Sep 22 2009, 03:48 PM
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Yeah, thanks for the replies. I'm not real interested in getting to a "pro" level (though that would be cool...). I'm more interested in just doing it for myself. I figure its just another step with regards to working on cars. I've welded a few a simple parts on the Camaro, like the swaybar mounts, but I'd never do anything much beyond that, yet. It'd be cool to be able to weld up exhausts, etc. I'll have to start doing some reading and see if I can get my hands on a MIG.
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post Sep 22 2009, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE (NU_BLUE @ Sep 22 2009, 11:48 AM) *
Yeah, thanks for the replies. I'm not real interested in getting to a "pro" level (though that would be cool...). I'm more interested in just doing it for myself. I figure its just another step with regards to working on cars. I've welded a few a simple parts on the Camaro, like the swaybar mounts, but I'd never do anything much beyond that, yet. It'd be cool to be able to weld up exhausts, etc. I'll have to start doing some reading and see if I can get my hands on a MIG.



Exhaust is "easy"...it's easy because it's not structural. If a muffler weld fails it's generally no big deal (assuming it doesn't fly off and go through someones window). A sway bar mount is far more critical.

As for Migs, go look at the Hobart line of Mig welders. Miller and Lincoln build machines to a higher standard and have some really nice stuff, but the Hobart line is filled with good to very good quality welders for fairly reasonable prices. I have a Hobart Handler 210 amp Mig and it's been outstanding. I also have a used Lincoln Squarewave Tig 175 that I found a good deal on and it's a great welder, but I'm still learning to make use of it's capabilities (I'm a Tig "owner" not a Tig "welder" right now).
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NU_BLUE   Where did you learn to weld?   Sep 19 2009, 09:10 PM
trackbird   Buy a MIG first. If you can stick, you can learn t...   Sep 20 2009, 05:18 AM
Blainefab   Take a class - community college, welding supply s...   Sep 20 2009, 07:02 AM
trackbird   I realized that I forgot to say exactly what Alan ...   Sep 20 2009, 02:48 PM
TSHACK   I've been thinking of taking some classes too....   Sep 20 2009, 05:57 PM
prockbp   I learned to weld at Tarrant County College in For...   Sep 21 2009, 05:39 AM
EchoMirage   union trained and certified. butt welding pipe wi...   Sep 21 2009, 12:52 PM
Beach Cruiser   My Dad taught me to TIG Aluminum at age 10, from t...   Sep 21 2009, 02:54 PM
mitchntx   My dad taught me the basics of how to stick weld w...   Sep 21 2009, 04:05 PM
robz71lm7   I messed around for a while by myself(couple years...   Sep 21 2009, 08:55 PM
prockbp   QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Sep 21 2009, 03:55 PM)...   Sep 22 2009, 01:53 AM
robz71lm7   QUOTE (prockbp @ Sep 21 2009, 09:53 PM) Q...   Sep 22 2009, 06:50 PM
00 Trans Ram   Still learning! I simply went and bought a go...   Sep 22 2009, 02:18 PM
NU_BLUE   Yeah, thanks for the replies. I'm not real int...   Sep 22 2009, 03:48 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (NU_BLUE @ Sep 22 2009, 11:48 AM) Y...   Sep 22 2009, 07:59 PM
00 Trans Ram   Oh, also - check Craigslist for used machines clos...   Sep 22 2009, 09:03 PM
StanIROCZ   I got my Miller 320 TIG for $875 off ebay 4 y...   Sep 22 2009, 10:42 PM
mitchntx   There is no one more frugal (cheap) than me. But ...   Sep 23 2009, 12:56 PM
trackbird   I fully agree Mitch. I wasn't slighting the ni...   Sep 23 2009, 06:37 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 23 2009, 01:37 PM)...   Sep 24 2009, 01:20 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Sep 23 2009, 09:20 PM) ...   Sep 30 2009, 02:25 PM
robz71lm7   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 30 2009, 10:25 AM)...   Oct 4 2009, 01:37 AM
00 Trans Ram   Anyone have advice on a used unit? Are these the t...   Sep 23 2009, 08:33 PM
rpoz-29   Before I bought my mig welder, I asked the welders...   Sep 23 2009, 08:56 PM
Norm Peterson   Couple of things that I don't think anybody ha...   Sep 30 2009, 01:25 PM
prockbp   QUOTE (Norm Peterson @ Sep 30 2009, 08:25...   Oct 3 2009, 06:00 AM
robz71lm7   QUOTE (prockbp @ Oct 3 2009, 02:00 AM) Th...   Oct 4 2009, 01:23 AM
rdoms3800   i bought a Craftsman MIG 110v 5 years ago and it w...   Sep 30 2009, 05:20 PM
v7guy   I learned at work, I played with the MIG during lu...   Oct 4 2009, 07:56 AM
DavidDymaxion   I'm not usual... My first welder purchase was ...   Oct 8 2009, 05:26 AM

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