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 Aug 25 2009, 12:32 AM
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Nothing says 'I love you.' like a box of Hydroshoks  Group: Moderators Posts: 5,284 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 4  |
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Sep 30 2009, 02:08 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,511 Joined: 14-November 04 From: Homer Glen, IL Member No.: 540 |
According to the info on this site, anywhere from 19.5 to 28 gallons per barrel. A barrel actually seems to be 42 gallons vs. the 55 gallons I had imagined: http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/eng99/eng99288.htm
Plugging those numbers into the calculation it saves 8-11.5 million barrels of oil to come up with the same amount of gasoline. It's not completely true because the other parts of the barrel can be refined into products as well. Anyway, 8-11.5M bbl x $70/bbl = $560M-$805M They also forgot to figure in that's the savings PER YEAR. So, on the $3B spent, it will take 3.7 to 5.3 years to equal the reduction in dependence on foreign oil vs. if they had just given out $3B in free gas. Assuming you just gave everyone over the age of 18 a gas gift card, everyone could've got $13.33 worth of gas... |
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Sep 30 2009, 11:54 AM
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Captain Indecisive Group: Advanced Members Posts: 68 Joined: 17-July 04 From: Columbus Ohio Member No.: 406 |
QUOTE (nape @ Sep 29 2009, 10:08 PM)  According to the info on this site, anywhere from 19.5 to 28 gallons per barrel. A barrel actually seems to be 42 gallons vs. the 55 gallons I had imagined: http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/eng99/eng99288.htm Plugging those numbers into the calculation it saves 8-11.5 million barrels of oil to come up with the same amount of gasoline. It's not completely true because the other parts of the barrel can be refined into products as well. Anyway, 8-11.5M bbl x $70/bbl = $560M-$805M They also forgot to figure in that's the savings PER YEAR. So, on the $3B spent, it will take 3.7 to 5.3 years to equal the reduction in dependence on foreign oil vs. if they had just given out $3B in free gas. Assuming you just gave everyone over the age of 18 a gas gift card, everyone could've got $13.33 worth of gas... Yeah I didn't question the math, though I already assumed it was slanted to make more impressive figures for those against the program. It seems that with the corrected math that maybe it actually isn't so bad if you assume people would have driven the clunker for ~5 additional years and as many miles vs. the new car. I'd bet alot of the true "clunkers" traded in probably weren't driven nearly 12k/year. |
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