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post Jun 3 2004, 10:04 PM
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Talk amongst yourselves. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'd love to see something with the LS-6 or even the LS-2. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

For what it's worth, AW has also reported slow sales to-date on the Pontiac GTO, here.

Last time I visited a GM/Pontiac dealership, they had one GTO in the showroom and it was marked up $3,000 above the sticker price. So it was $37K or thereabouts. Hmm. I wonder if it's still there?

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post Jun 5 2004, 04:17 AM
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Personally, I'd really like to see a new F-body (would it still be called an F-body if it were new?) that has a stripper version starting around $20k. It would be offered with a smallish (3.8L) V6 and absolutely no frills (not even A/C or ABS). However, the body (body=chassis, body panels, and other non-moving parts) would be about the only thing not optionable. It would hearken back to the days of 6 page long option lists (none of this "package" crap, either!). You could order one with IRS or a live axle, because the engineer would have designed it to accept either. You could have it with the V6, a low HP V8 (maybe 300hp or so) and a high HP V8 (maybe 400hp or so). The option list would not charge you for taking things off (like "A/C delete") because they wouldn't be on there!

The reason I want a Camaro/Firebird that can still be had with a V6, leather, convertible, A/C, heated seats, power everything, auto, etc., etc., etc. is because that's what the girls will want. That is what will sell enough of these things so that the rest of us can have our light, powerful, well-handling race cars from the factory. Even though the Cobra is flashy, its the V6 Mustang that keeps the Cobra running, so to speak.

It will need to be smaller looking (you gotta admit, the 3rd and 4th gens look huge!), not as low slung looking (engineers can do amazing things with window placement, and door sills so that a car can be low, but not look low), and probably retro in the first incarnation (latest fad - it'll sell). While it looks like I'm in the minority, I actually like (more like LOVE) that 69 Camaro/Ferarri Modena drawing that some guy in Texas had floating around the internet about a year ago.
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Spooner   5th generation Camaro   Jun 3 2004, 10:04 PM
prockbp   aww.. i got excited.. that paragraph probably wasn...   Jun 4 2004, 03:17 AM
Rob Hood   hmm...not too keen on retro designs, makes me thin...   Jun 4 2004, 05:51 AM
Nestromo   Rob - -I would like to see the LS1 Camaro look G...   Jun 4 2004, 12:46 PM
LT4Firehawk   What I'd like to see: Lowest weight possible (...   Jun 4 2004, 02:22 PM
Cal   Well I'd better get my two-bits in here: I...   Jun 4 2004, 03:35 PM
y5e06   sub 3000lbs is just craziness! won't happ...   Jun 4 2004, 04:05 PM
Jeff97FST/A   QUOTE (Cal @ Jun 4 2004, 10:35 AM)Bad things ...   Jun 4 2004, 04:24 PM
SSpeedracer   Saw the title, "5th gen camaro" and the ...   Jun 4 2004, 04:47 PM
Nestromo   QUOTE (SSpeedracer @ Jun 4 2004, 10:47 AM)The...   Jun 4 2004, 05:24 PM
Jeff97FST/A   QUOTE (Nestromo @ Jun 4 2004, 12:24 PM)Hey, d...   Jun 4 2004, 06:05 PM
LT4Firehawk   Every f-body I've owned (and my Vettes) have a...   Jun 4 2004, 06:22 PM
rmackintosh   ....what I would like to see.....a NEW Camaro PLEA...   Jun 4 2004, 06:38 PM
Nestromo   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jun 4 2004, 12:38 PM)......   Jun 5 2004, 01:50 AM
#07   RE: 5th generation Camaro   Jun 5 2004, 02:30 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE I'd be happy with a fresh clutch and a T...   Jun 5 2004, 02:54 AM
Nestromo   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jun 4 2004, 08:54 PM)......   Jun 5 2004, 02:57 AM
#07   Thats cool but this is what I would like to see it...   Jun 5 2004, 03:01 AM
#07   But then again it would be more practical to just ...   Jun 5 2004, 03:11 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (Nestromo @ Jun 4 2004, 12:24 PM)That a...   Jun 5 2004, 03:45 AM
Nestromo   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 4 2004, 09:45 PM)Then,...   Jun 5 2004, 04:16 AM
00 Trans Ram   Personally, I'd really like to see a new F-bod...   Jun 5 2004, 04:17 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (Nestromo @ Jun 4 2004, 11:16 PM)http:/...   Jun 5 2004, 04:29 AM
Nestromo   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 4 2004, 10:29 PM)QUOTE...   Jun 5 2004, 05:45 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (Nestromo @ Jun 5 2004, 12:45 AM)QUOTE ...   Jun 5 2004, 06:02 AM
Nestromo   It was a '94ish car. It was an LT1. Of cours...   Jun 5 2004, 06:10 AM
Bald54   A great deal of what everyone is hoping for will p...   Jun 5 2004, 05:54 PM
00 Trans Ram   QUOTE (Nestromo @ Jun 4 2004, 11:45 PM)Thats ...   Jun 6 2004, 06:35 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE Everytime I see a nice hardtop "upgrade...   Jun 6 2004, 06:45 PM
DryStout   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Jun 6 2004, 01:35 PM)I...   Jun 7 2004, 02:55 AM
00 Trans Ram   Ahhhhhh, so there is some kind of structural suppo...   Jun 7 2004, 06:01 AM
Nestromo   Yep, there is a good bit of metal that has to be h...   Jun 8 2004, 01:06 AM
#07   QUOTE (Nestromo @ Jun 7 2004, 07:06 PM)My har...   Jun 8 2004, 02:37 AM
2000Z-71   There was a post on another board with a link to a...   Jun 8 2004, 06:12 AM
Dewey316   QUOTE (2000Z-71 @ Jun 8 2004, 12:12 AM)O...   Jun 8 2004, 03:31 PM
00 Trans Ram   I swear, if GM tries to bring back the Camaro/Z28 ...   Jun 8 2004, 03:43 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (2000Z-71 @ Jun 8 2004, 01:12 AM)T...   Jun 8 2004, 03:46 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 8 2004, 09:46 AM)QUOTE...   Jun 8 2004, 07:32 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jun 8 2004, 02:32 PM)QUO...   Jun 8 2004, 08:20 PM
Nestromo   Theres a stripper '04 GT on the Ford lot... I ...   Jun 8 2004, 08:33 PM
bruecksteve   Would you buy this Camaro??? http://www.popularho...   Jun 9 2004, 05:39 PM
00 Trans Ram   That's the one that I was talking about earlie...   Jun 9 2004, 05:59 PM
Barney   That is too COOL to ever be built, GMs bean counte...   Jun 9 2004, 06:12 PM
bruecksteve   RE: 5th generation Camaro   Jun 9 2004, 06:49 PM
00 Trans Ram   Best part about that car is the rear. It's be...   Jun 9 2004, 07:54 PM
pknowles   I ussually don't like the retro design, but th...   Jun 9 2004, 08:24 PM
bruecksteve   Let's start a new car company and build this t...   Jun 9 2004, 08:28 PM
pknowles   QUOTE Let's start a new car company and build ...   Jun 9 2004, 08:46 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (pknowles @ Jun 9 2004, 03:46 PM)QUOTE ...   Jun 9 2004, 09:22 PM
KeithO   I've refrained from posting, but I couldn...   Jun 9 2004, 10:26 PM
Cal   A lot of great ideas, but the problem is, GM knows...   Jun 9 2004, 11:21 PM
Nestromo   Jack it up on smaller rims and tires, throw on som...   Jun 10 2004, 12:47 AM
#07   QUOTE (bruecksteve @ Jun 9 2004, 11:39 AM)Wou...   Jun 10 2004, 01:25 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (bruecksteve @ Jun 9 2004, 11:39 AM)Wou...   Jun 10 2004, 02:34 AM
2000Z-71   I'll hope that GM does bring back the Camaro a...   Jun 10 2004, 03:01 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jun 9 2004, 09:34 PM)......   Jun 10 2004, 03:03 AM
00 Trans Ram   Unfortunately, I gotta agree. GM seems to have no...   Jun 10 2004, 03:16 AM
prockbp   that car is a pipe dream.. if they offered it fo...   Jun 10 2004, 03:25 AM
Spooner   I think there's hope in that GM has brought ou...   Jun 11 2004, 12:16 PM
pknowles   QUOTE What gets me is that GM has the parts bin to...   Jun 11 2004, 12:59 PM
LT4Firehawk   I just read somewhere that GM has announced they w...   Jun 11 2004, 01:40 PM
Dewey316   I saw an Elise at PIR this weekend, what a great l...   Jun 14 2004, 12:21 PM

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