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Spooner
post Jun 3 2004, 10:04 PM
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Talk amongst yourselves. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'd love to see something with the LS-6 or even the LS-2. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

For what it's worth, AW has also reported slow sales to-date on the Pontiac GTO, here.

Last time I visited a GM/Pontiac dealership, they had one GTO in the showroom and it was marked up $3,000 above the sticker price. So it was $37K or thereabouts. Hmm. I wonder if it's still there?

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post Jun 10 2004, 03:01 AM
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I'll hope that GM does bring back the Camaro and do a decent job of it, but I'm not getting my hopes up. By doing a decent job I mean respectable performance at an affordable price. Look at their current performance offerings:

Corvette - over 40K
CTS-V - over 50K
Silverado SS - over 40K and a Lightning will have it for lunch
SSR - over 40K for an S-10 with a V8 and a body kit and a Honda Accord V6 will have it for lunch
GTO - impressive performance at a reasonable price, hard to find 6-speeds and unbelievable dealer mark-up

What gets me is that GM has the parts bin to build some affordable performance cars and they don't. The GTO does give me hope and maybe more will follow off the Holden platform. But why not offer a "stripper" Corvette? Why not put the 8.1 in a 1/2 ton Silverado 2wd reminiscent of the 454SS? Why not put a V8 in the Colorado with a performance suspension and AWD like the Syclone? I'm just afraid if GM brings it back it will be a halo specialty vehicle, limited volume and a high price.
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Spooner   5th generation Camaro   Jun 3 2004, 10:04 PM
prockbp   aww.. i got excited.. that paragraph probably wasn...   Jun 4 2004, 03:17 AM
Rob Hood   hmm...not too keen on retro designs, makes me thin...   Jun 4 2004, 05:51 AM
Nestromo   Rob - -I would like to see the LS1 Camaro look G...   Jun 4 2004, 12:46 PM
LT4Firehawk   What I'd like to see: Lowest weight possible (...   Jun 4 2004, 02:22 PM
Cal   Well I'd better get my two-bits in here: I...   Jun 4 2004, 03:35 PM
y5e06   sub 3000lbs is just craziness! won't happ...   Jun 4 2004, 04:05 PM
Jeff97FST/A   QUOTE (Cal @ Jun 4 2004, 10:35 AM)Bad things ...   Jun 4 2004, 04:24 PM
SSpeedracer   Saw the title, "5th gen camaro" and the ...   Jun 4 2004, 04:47 PM
Nestromo   QUOTE (SSpeedracer @ Jun 4 2004, 10:47 AM)The...   Jun 4 2004, 05:24 PM
Jeff97FST/A   QUOTE (Nestromo @ Jun 4 2004, 12:24 PM)Hey, d...   Jun 4 2004, 06:05 PM
LT4Firehawk   Every f-body I've owned (and my Vettes) have a...   Jun 4 2004, 06:22 PM
rmackintosh   ....what I would like to see.....a NEW Camaro PLEA...   Jun 4 2004, 06:38 PM
Nestromo   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jun 4 2004, 12:38 PM)......   Jun 5 2004, 01:50 AM
#07   RE: 5th generation Camaro   Jun 5 2004, 02:30 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE I'd be happy with a fresh clutch and a T...   Jun 5 2004, 02:54 AM
Nestromo   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jun 4 2004, 08:54 PM)......   Jun 5 2004, 02:57 AM
#07   Thats cool but this is what I would like to see it...   Jun 5 2004, 03:01 AM
#07   But then again it would be more practical to just ...   Jun 5 2004, 03:11 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (Nestromo @ Jun 4 2004, 12:24 PM)That a...   Jun 5 2004, 03:45 AM
Nestromo   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 4 2004, 09:45 PM)Then,...   Jun 5 2004, 04:16 AM
00 Trans Ram   Personally, I'd really like to see a new F-bod...   Jun 5 2004, 04:17 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (Nestromo @ Jun 4 2004, 11:16 PM)http:/...   Jun 5 2004, 04:29 AM
Nestromo   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 4 2004, 10:29 PM)QUOTE...   Jun 5 2004, 05:45 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (Nestromo @ Jun 5 2004, 12:45 AM)QUOTE ...   Jun 5 2004, 06:02 AM
Nestromo   It was a '94ish car. It was an LT1. Of cours...   Jun 5 2004, 06:10 AM
Bald54   A great deal of what everyone is hoping for will p...   Jun 5 2004, 05:54 PM
00 Trans Ram   QUOTE (Nestromo @ Jun 4 2004, 11:45 PM)Thats ...   Jun 6 2004, 06:35 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE Everytime I see a nice hardtop "upgrade...   Jun 6 2004, 06:45 PM
DryStout   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Jun 6 2004, 01:35 PM)I...   Jun 7 2004, 02:55 AM
00 Trans Ram   Ahhhhhh, so there is some kind of structural suppo...   Jun 7 2004, 06:01 AM
Nestromo   Yep, there is a good bit of metal that has to be h...   Jun 8 2004, 01:06 AM
#07   QUOTE (Nestromo @ Jun 7 2004, 07:06 PM)My har...   Jun 8 2004, 02:37 AM
2000Z-71   There was a post on another board with a link to a...   Jun 8 2004, 06:12 AM
Dewey316   QUOTE (2000Z-71 @ Jun 8 2004, 12:12 AM)O...   Jun 8 2004, 03:31 PM
00 Trans Ram   I swear, if GM tries to bring back the Camaro/Z28 ...   Jun 8 2004, 03:43 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (2000Z-71 @ Jun 8 2004, 01:12 AM)T...   Jun 8 2004, 03:46 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 8 2004, 09:46 AM)QUOTE...   Jun 8 2004, 07:32 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jun 8 2004, 02:32 PM)QUO...   Jun 8 2004, 08:20 PM
Nestromo   Theres a stripper '04 GT on the Ford lot... I ...   Jun 8 2004, 08:33 PM
bruecksteve   Would you buy this Camaro??? http://www.popularho...   Jun 9 2004, 05:39 PM
00 Trans Ram   That's the one that I was talking about earlie...   Jun 9 2004, 05:59 PM
Barney   That is too COOL to ever be built, GMs bean counte...   Jun 9 2004, 06:12 PM
bruecksteve   RE: 5th generation Camaro   Jun 9 2004, 06:49 PM
00 Trans Ram   Best part about that car is the rear. It's be...   Jun 9 2004, 07:54 PM
pknowles   I ussually don't like the retro design, but th...   Jun 9 2004, 08:24 PM
bruecksteve   Let's start a new car company and build this t...   Jun 9 2004, 08:28 PM
pknowles   QUOTE Let's start a new car company and build ...   Jun 9 2004, 08:46 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (pknowles @ Jun 9 2004, 03:46 PM)QUOTE ...   Jun 9 2004, 09:22 PM
KeithO   I've refrained from posting, but I couldn...   Jun 9 2004, 10:26 PM
Cal   A lot of great ideas, but the problem is, GM knows...   Jun 9 2004, 11:21 PM
Nestromo   Jack it up on smaller rims and tires, throw on som...   Jun 10 2004, 12:47 AM
#07   QUOTE (bruecksteve @ Jun 9 2004, 11:39 AM)Wou...   Jun 10 2004, 01:25 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (bruecksteve @ Jun 9 2004, 11:39 AM)Wou...   Jun 10 2004, 02:34 AM
2000Z-71   I'll hope that GM does bring back the Camaro a...   Jun 10 2004, 03:01 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jun 9 2004, 09:34 PM)......   Jun 10 2004, 03:03 AM
00 Trans Ram   Unfortunately, I gotta agree. GM seems to have no...   Jun 10 2004, 03:16 AM
prockbp   that car is a pipe dream.. if they offered it fo...   Jun 10 2004, 03:25 AM
Spooner   I think there's hope in that GM has brought ou...   Jun 11 2004, 12:16 PM
pknowles   QUOTE What gets me is that GM has the parts bin to...   Jun 11 2004, 12:59 PM
LT4Firehawk   I just read somewhere that GM has announced they w...   Jun 11 2004, 01:40 PM
Dewey316   I saw an Elise at PIR this weekend, what a great l...   Jun 14 2004, 12:21 PM

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