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cccbock
post Oct 5 2010, 08:07 PM
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After about three years off the street, and two years off the track, I went down today and registered the 96 Camaro and it is now once again 100% street legal. Lights work (no horn, don't tell anyone). Hell, AC still works.

Never mind that roll bar, and the big empty spots that used to be rear seats, and radio, and spare tire. Pay no attention to those wires behind the glovebox. Those big fat tires, yeha what about 'em...doesn't everyone have big tires? And yes, everyone should have a fire extinguisher in the cabin with them, along with their 5 point harnesses, and of course who can get along without a proper electric system cut off within reach of the safety crew, uh I mean, Highway Patrol. Yes your honor, my car has a muffler...most of the time.

The car is still too low, it hits even medium size gravel in the roadway. Speed bumps....forget it. Most driveways...forget it. But I'm too lazy to raise it.

At least it is really cool......

Next post may be how much the ticket was for......wish me luck.

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post Oct 7 2010, 03:53 AM
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I don't see why most people 'track people' take their cars off the street. What's the big deal?

Does it have head lights? check
Turn signals? check
Brake lights? check
Wipers? maybe
horn? no, but the wire is there and I can plug one in 15 minutes
muffler? check
pump gas? check
Modest clutch? check
A cage that you won't bang your head off of? check (major requirement of mine)
no state smog inspection or an inspection that you can pass? check

Keeping things above that I would otherwise remove in a 'track only car' cost me what, maybe 10 lbs?

If nothing else it is a great way to work bugs out of the car before you spend hundreds of dollars in tow rig gas and track time. Also a good time to get comfortable with the car, especially shifting since most DD's are automatics.

For me, I love it when someone turns their head and says "WTF is that?" that right there makes it all worth it (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I should also add that I'm a 'car guy' first and a 'racer' second.
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post Oct 7 2010, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Oct 6 2010, 11:53 PM) *
I don't see why most people 'track people' take their cars off the street. What's the big deal?

Does it have head lights? check
Turn signals? check
Brake lights? check
Wipers? maybe
horn? no, but the wire is there and I can plug one in 15 minutes
muffler? check
pump gas? check
Modest clutch? check
A cage that you won't bang your head off of? check (major requirement of mine)
no state smog inspection or an inspection that you can pass? check

Keeping things above that I would otherwise remove in a 'track only car' cost me what, maybe 10 lbs?


Per this list, I'm about screwed...

Does it have head lights? Nope
Turn signals? Nope
Brake lights? Once I hook them up
Wipers? nope
horn? nope
muffler? check
pump gas? check
Modest clutch? check
A cage that you won't bang your head off of? Nope
no state smog inspection or an inspection that you can pass? check


Removing the wipers will save you 10 lbs. Pulling the headlights, headlight structure and building a bumper instead of the overweight crash bits will probably save you close to another 60 lbs. Pulling the guts out of the doors and removing the glass is likely worth up to 225 lbs or so (if you believe the fully loaded weight of a door, glass, power motors, etc to be roughly 156 lbs each as stated somewhere on frrax).

I'd guess there's closer to 300 lbs between a "street car" and a "race car" (assuming your street car is lacking AC, carpet and most of that stuff while retaining full doors, wipers, lights, bumper "guts", etc). On the other hand, you'll enjoy yours a lot more, so it's not a bad thing. And, that stuff can easily come out later when/if you change gears.

I'll still have tags on mine.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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cccbock   Driving....again   Oct 5 2010, 08:07 PM
trackbird   I'm all for it Bock!!! I'll d...   Oct 5 2010, 08:25 PM
cccbock   QUOTE (trackbird @ Oct 5 2010, 04:25 PM) ...   Oct 6 2010, 09:40 PM
rocky   Sounds like my 94. Who needs an airbag.   Oct 6 2010, 12:02 AM
1meanZ   StanIROCZ's car is the epitome of this. Frank...   Oct 6 2010, 01:37 PM
CrashTestDummy   The wife's 94 Z is like that, except it has an...   Oct 6 2010, 03:41 PM
cccbock   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Oct 6 2010, 11:41...   Oct 6 2010, 09:34 PM
1meanZ   QUOTE (cccbock @ Oct 6 2010, 05:34 PM) We...   Oct 7 2010, 12:35 AM
StanIROCZ   I don't see why most people 'track people...   Oct 7 2010, 03:53 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Oct 6 2010, 11:53 PM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 12:46 PM
Jeff94TA   QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Oct 6 2010, 11:53 PM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 08:16 PM
nape   Threads like this make me want to build a "tr...   Oct 7 2010, 04:01 AM
rocky   I can see the reason why to take the car "off...   Oct 7 2010, 11:11 AM
cccbock   QUOTE (rocky @ Oct 7 2010, 07:11 AM) I ca...   Oct 7 2010, 11:49 AM
Racing Geek   cccbock, do you have a video clip of the car somew...   Oct 7 2010, 02:17 PM
StanIROCZ   QUOTE (Racing Geek @ Oct 7 2010, 10:17 AM...   Oct 7 2010, 04:36 PM
1meanZ   QUOTE (Racing Geek @ Oct 7 2010, 10:17 AM...   Oct 7 2010, 11:10 PM
StanIROCZ   QUOTE (trackbird @ Oct 7 2010, 08:46 AM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 04:27 PM
trackbird   My wipers wouldn't clear my hood. So I just pu...   Oct 7 2010, 05:26 PM
Racing Geek   QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Oct 7 2010, 11:36 AM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 07:35 PM
CMC #37   This topic is so appropos....I just dusted off the...   Oct 8 2010, 01:31 AM
cccbock   You guys remind me of the first time my wife got i...   Oct 8 2010, 03:44 PM
Jeff94TA   QUOTE (cccbock @ Oct 8 2010, 11:44 AM) I...   Oct 8 2010, 05:48 PM
CMC #37   As a long time instructor, I can say it truly does...   Oct 8 2010, 06:07 PM

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