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|  Driving....again, The return of the 96 | 
|  Oct 5 2010, 08:07 PM 
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| Advanced Member   Group: Advanced Members Posts: 934 Joined: 7-March 06 Member No.: 1,113  | 
				After about three years off the street, and two years off the track, I went down today and registered the 96 Camaro and it is now once again 100% street legal.  Lights work (no horn, don't tell anyone).  Hell, AC still works. Never mind that roll bar, and the big empty spots that used to be rear seats, and radio, and spare tire. Pay no attention to those wires behind the glovebox. Those big fat tires, yeha what about 'em...doesn't everyone have big tires? And yes, everyone should have a fire extinguisher in the cabin with them, along with their 5 point harnesses, and of course who can get along without a proper electric system cut off within reach of the safety crew, uh I mean, Highway Patrol. Yes your honor, my car has a muffler...most of the time. The car is still too low, it hits even medium size gravel in the roadway. Speed bumps....forget it. Most driveways...forget it. But I'm too lazy to raise it. At least it is really cool...... Next post may be how much the ticket was for......wish me luck. bock | 
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|  Oct 7 2010, 04:27 PM 
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| Veteran Member      Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144  | the wipers will save you 10 lbs. I'd still keep these if it was a track only car. It seams to rain at Grattan more times that it doesn't. I have mine in place still but I'm going to really try rainX to avoid using the wipers as much as possible. Pulling the headlights, headlight structure and building a bumper instead of the overweight crash bits will probably save you close to another 60 lbs. Headlights and the headlight bar might be around 10 lbs. The entire front bumper is ~20-30 lbs (I've weighed rear bumpers which are similar in construction 21-24 lbs). A tubular bumber that is worth anything will still be ~12 lbs. No way to get 60 lbs, and still, these are 2 separate things - I can replace the bumper and still keep the headlights to keep it streetable. Pulling the guts out of the doors and removing the glass is likely worth up to 225 lbs or so (if you believe the fully loaded weight of a door, glass, power motors, etc to be roughly 156 lbs each as stated somewhere on frrax). This is the biggest thing that I forgot. Going 'skins' would save 150 lbs on my car. This is without question the biggest sacrifice I am making. FYI, 3rd gen doors are 89 lbs /ea http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?showtopic=13703 I'd guess there's closer to 300 lbs between a "street car" and a "race car" (assuming your street car is lacking AC, carpet and most of that stuff while retaining full doors, wipers, lights, bumper "guts", etc). On the other hand, you'll enjoy yours a lot more, so it's not a bad thing. And, that stuff can easily come out later when/if you change gears. In my extreme case, I'm leaving ~160 lbs on the table. Bock, I'm glad you are enjoying your car again! | 
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 cccbock   Driving....again   Oct 5 2010, 08:07 PM
 cccbock   Driving....again   Oct 5 2010, 08:07 PM 
  trackbird   I'm all for it Bock!!!
I'll d...   Oct 5 2010, 08:25 PM
 trackbird   I'm all for it Bock!!!
I'll d...   Oct 5 2010, 08:25 PM
 
  cccbock   QUOTE (trackbird @ Oct 5 2010, 04:25 PM) ...   Oct 6 2010, 09:40 PM
 cccbock   QUOTE (trackbird @ Oct 5 2010, 04:25 PM) ...   Oct 6 2010, 09:40 PM 
  rocky   Sounds like my 94. Who needs an airbag.   Oct 6 2010, 12:02 AM
 rocky   Sounds like my 94. Who needs an airbag.   Oct 6 2010, 12:02 AM 
  1meanZ   StanIROCZ's car is the epitome of this.  Frank...   Oct 6 2010, 01:37 PM
 1meanZ   StanIROCZ's car is the epitome of this.  Frank...   Oct 6 2010, 01:37 PM 
  CrashTestDummy   The wife's 94 Z is like that, except it has an...   Oct 6 2010, 03:41 PM
 CrashTestDummy   The wife's 94 Z is like that, except it has an...   Oct 6 2010, 03:41 PM
 
  cccbock   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Oct 6 2010, 11:41...   Oct 6 2010, 09:34 PM
 cccbock   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Oct 6 2010, 11:41...   Oct 6 2010, 09:34 PM

 
  1meanZ   QUOTE (cccbock @ Oct 6 2010, 05:34 PM) We...   Oct 7 2010, 12:35 AM
 1meanZ   QUOTE (cccbock @ Oct 6 2010, 05:34 PM) We...   Oct 7 2010, 12:35 AM 
  StanIROCZ   I don't see why most people 'track people...   Oct 7 2010, 03:53 AM
 StanIROCZ   I don't see why most people 'track people...   Oct 7 2010, 03:53 AM
 
  trackbird   QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Oct 6 2010, 11:53 PM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 12:46 PM
 trackbird   QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Oct 6 2010, 11:53 PM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 12:46 PM
 
  Jeff94TA   QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Oct 6 2010, 11:53 PM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 08:16 PM
 Jeff94TA   QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Oct 6 2010, 11:53 PM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 08:16 PM 
  nape   Threads like this make me want to build a "tr...   Oct 7 2010, 04:01 AM
 nape   Threads like this make me want to build a "tr...   Oct 7 2010, 04:01 AM 
  rocky   I can see the reason why to take the car "off...   Oct 7 2010, 11:11 AM
 rocky   I can see the reason why to take the car "off...   Oct 7 2010, 11:11 AM
 
  cccbock   QUOTE (rocky @ Oct 7 2010, 07:11 AM) I ca...   Oct 7 2010, 11:49 AM
 cccbock   QUOTE (rocky @ Oct 7 2010, 07:11 AM) I ca...   Oct 7 2010, 11:49 AM 
  Racing Geek   cccbock, do you have a video clip of the car somew...   Oct 7 2010, 02:17 PM
 Racing Geek   cccbock, do you have a video clip of the car somew...   Oct 7 2010, 02:17 PM
 
  StanIROCZ   QUOTE (Racing Geek @ Oct 7 2010, 10:17 AM...   Oct 7 2010, 04:36 PM
 StanIROCZ   QUOTE (Racing Geek @ Oct 7 2010, 10:17 AM...   Oct 7 2010, 04:36 PM
 
  1meanZ   QUOTE (Racing Geek @ Oct 7 2010, 10:17 AM...   Oct 7 2010, 11:10 PM
 1meanZ   QUOTE (Racing Geek @ Oct 7 2010, 10:17 AM...   Oct 7 2010, 11:10 PM 
  trackbird   My wipers wouldn't clear my hood. So I just pu...   Oct 7 2010, 05:26 PM
 trackbird   My wipers wouldn't clear my hood. So I just pu...   Oct 7 2010, 05:26 PM 
  Racing Geek   QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Oct 7 2010, 11:36 AM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 07:35 PM
 Racing Geek   QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Oct 7 2010, 11:36 AM) ...   Oct 7 2010, 07:35 PM 
  CMC #37   This topic is so appropos....I just dusted off the...   Oct 8 2010, 01:31 AM
 CMC #37   This topic is so appropos....I just dusted off the...   Oct 8 2010, 01:31 AM
 
  cccbock   You guys remind me of the first time my wife got i...   Oct 8 2010, 03:44 PM
 cccbock   You guys remind me of the first time my wife got i...   Oct 8 2010, 03:44 PM

 
  Jeff94TA   QUOTE (cccbock @ Oct 8 2010, 11:44 AM) I...   Oct 8 2010, 05:48 PM
 Jeff94TA   QUOTE (cccbock @ Oct 8 2010, 11:44 AM) I...   Oct 8 2010, 05:48 PM 
  CMC #37   As a long time instructor, I can say it truly does...   Oct 8 2010, 06:07 PM
 CMC #37   As a long time instructor, I can say it truly does...   Oct 8 2010, 06:07 PM|   | 
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