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jensend
post Jul 7 2011, 01:54 PM
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Looks like we'll be trying to find a used late model (2006- on) truck in order to be able to take my '02 Z28 off the road and make it a dedicated track car. The truck would need to be able to tow the car and an open trailer safely at highway speeds. Would prefer a club or crew cab for the extra space an longer wheelbase. Right now I'm thinking gas as opposed to diesel since the truck will get limited use other than for track events and few camping trips annually. It will also be available to my two grown sons as needed. Want the space of an 8' bed so I can carry plywood, etc., when needed. Durarbility and reliability are major requirement. Capable of doing most maintenance and repairs on my own on a gas powered vehicle, but I'd like to have something that was practical to use and maintain. Looking for recommendations on what to buy/avoid, average real world mpg figures, etc.. Thanks in advance for your input.
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post Jul 8 2011, 02:29 AM
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I daily drive a 97 Dodge with the 5.9L 12V Cummins/ 5spd and love every second of it. Not as sexy as the newer rigs, a bit on the smelly side at times, sounds eerily simliar to a cement mixer rolling onto a job site, won't allow the kids to sneak in late after curfew, but its dead nuts reliable and just the same. I've got 247,000 miles the last 100,000 of which I put on the truck. No issues whatsoever. My mileage in combined driving is anywhere from 17.5-19 depending on the season. Pure highway runs I can get upwards of 22+ depending on if I keep my foot out of it. I get my oil analyzed at the 6 month mark and go a full year on changes 18,000+/-. There is very little maintenance for the engine itself, except for changing the fuel filter 2x a year, its more just rotating tires, greasing the chassis etc. Towing/hauling is a no-brainer. I could never justify a brand new diesel powered truck equivalent to mine (4x4 2500 ext cab, 8' bed) at close to $50k, but I picked mine up for $9K 5+years ago and have 0 regrets. There isn't a gas powered truck out there that could do what my truck does from a power/efficiency/durability/longevity standpoint. I fully expect to see 500K miles, no problem.

Admittedly, I drink the Cummins cool-aide. But I think the big 3 all have pretty good options in the diesel platform, each with their strong/weak points and good/bad years. Big thing to watch for on a used diesel - the tranny/clutch and if a programmer box was used and how it was used. More people tear more stuff up with those boxes and the results won't manifest themselves until afterwards, in the form of tranny/rear/clutch/blown head gaskets etc..

For a spot use vehicle, the gasser is probably the more economical option because the upfront entry cost is significantly less, even in the used arena. The 6.0L LS based trucks (or whatever size they are now) would be my first choice in a gasser, solely because of the engine platform.

Once you tow with a diesel powered truck, you'll never go back to a gasser. The 8.1L might be on par, don't know never towed with one, but it won't give you the mileage, durability, longevity that a diesel will. The newer diesels really are quite easy to DD, so don't dismiss the idea that it would get much more use than you think.

The 8' bed versus the 6' bed is on you and how much real work you intend to do with the truck, beyond that its personal preference. The longer trucks are more cumbersome in the tiny parking lots, and sometimes while towing that maneuverability (or lack of) can come into play, but that's hardly a reason to balk at one. The guys I love are the ones who have 6' bed, the eat up 2 more feet with a tool box? Doesn't make sense to me.....

Another plus to the diesels, is that they usually come equipped with all the heavy duty goodies as a function of the diesel option, but the gassers don't always have the towing upgrades etc, something to consider.

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jensend   Opinions on tow vehicle choices   Jul 7 2011, 01:54 PM
trackbird   I have one of those for sale in the for sale forum...   Jul 7 2011, 02:13 PM
mitchntx   Gas over a diesel any day. I've had both ... H...   Jul 7 2011, 02:21 PM
trackbird   I (personally) don't "believe" in sh...   Jul 7 2011, 02:25 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (jensend @ Jul 7 2011, 09:54 AM) Lo...   Jul 7 2011, 02:34 PM
trackbird   I can tell you what a PITA it is to replace the di...   Jul 7 2011, 03:48 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jul 7 2011, 11:48 AM) ...   Jul 7 2011, 11:39 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Steve91T @ Jul 7 2011, 07:39 PM) Y...   Jul 8 2011, 03:21 AM
EchoMirage   i wouldnt waste time with a gas rig. theres a rea...   Jul 7 2011, 03:53 PM
cccbock   Just so you have a different opinion available, I ...   Jul 8 2011, 01:29 AM
1qwikbird   I daily drive a 97 Dodge with the 5.9L 12V Cummins...   Jul 8 2011, 02:29 AM
00 SS   Just checked autotrader, found a 2000 F250 powerst...   Jul 8 2011, 02:30 AM
cccbock   QUOTE (00 SS @ Jul 7 2011, 10:30 PM) Just...   Jul 8 2011, 02:51 PM
CrashTestDummy   I'd really consider how much you'll be hau...   Jul 8 2011, 01:39 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Jul 8 2011, 09:39...   Jul 8 2011, 02:57 PM
cozog   QUOTE (jensend @ Jul 7 2011, 09:54 AM) Lo...   Jul 8 2011, 03:22 PM
Spruill242   2006 Ford F250 Diesel here. With crew cab and exte...   Jul 8 2011, 11:57 PM
BigEnos   I have a 2003 2500HD 4wd 6.0L gasser Silverado. It...   Jul 9 2011, 01:39 AM
wstukas   It's funny. I was in the same boat as you wit...   Jul 9 2011, 03:24 AM
mitchntx   All the positives folks are saying about the diese...   Jul 9 2011, 09:00 AM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jul 9 2011, 04:00 AM) ...   Jul 11 2011, 03:26 PM
Spruill242   ^ Why are you changing your oil every 5K ??? Get a...   Jul 9 2011, 10:08 AM
1qwikbird   QUOTE (Spruill242 @ Jul 9 2011, 06:08 AM)...   Jul 9 2011, 01:15 PM
jensend   Really appreciate all the advice, tech and "r...   Jul 9 2011, 03:49 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (jensend @ Jul 9 2011, 11:49 AM) Re...   Jul 9 2011, 05:46 PM
1qwikbird   QUOTE (jensend @ Jul 9 2011, 11:49 AM) Re...   Jul 9 2011, 09:17 PM
BigEnos   I drive a gas truck and a diesel car. I'm not ...   Jul 9 2011, 09:27 PM
CMC #37   2004 Duramax Diesel with the Allison trans, about ...   Jul 10 2011, 06:03 AM
BryanL   This truck was emailed to me as one of my favorite...   Jul 12 2011, 01:59 PM
Steve91T   A demonstration of torque. I'm in 2wd low, in ...   Jul 17 2011, 04:08 AM
pknowles   I have a 97 C2500 with a 5.7L gas, 2wd regular cab...   Aug 12 2011, 11:52 PM
Pablo   I was in your shoes about a year ago and decided a...   Aug 13 2011, 12:45 AM
CrashTestDummy   And if you're looking at a gasser, look for th...   Aug 16 2011, 01:05 PM
pknowles   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Aug 16 2011, 09:0...   Aug 17 2011, 09:15 AM
AllZWay   More data points... I have been towing with my ...   Aug 16 2011, 04:29 PM
Al weyman   Here's my old bus, '92 Chevy DayVan 5.7 pe...   Aug 17 2011, 07:20 AM

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