[pharmd]

Guys need some advice here from folks more experienced than me. I have a 2002 Camaro SS M6 (white with black roof and black wheels). On our way to the Mid West Musclecar Classic, we happened upon 3 fellow racers and while having some fun on a backroad my engine detonated, developed a upper valvetrain noise, then deteriorated rapidly (we barely made it home). Needless to say I was really disappointed I was finally able to make an event, and I didn't even get to run.

SO I have some major decisions to undertake and I need some input. I will have to build a new motor. I have an LS1 (stock) block and LS2 (stock) block and FAST 102 intake/TB to start with. Im not sure what the LS1 needs, the LS2 was removed for spinning rod bearing #6. Should I rebuild the LS2 budget style with slight over bore, keep the stock crank, get forged rods/pistons, a good cylinder head and custom cam? This combo would probably land around 470-480rwhp (my old LS1 was 456/415rw on a conservative dyno). Or should I spend another 3-5K and build a stroker shortblock, good heads, cam etc. The end price would probably be a 5K difference I feel. Is an accusump pretty much a good insurance policy?

I need to upgrade brakes (stock ls1). I am considering Z06 conversion, I think this is a very cost effective and reasonable option to begin attending PT events with...Due to the cost of everything, what if I had to do fronts now then rears later? Will it cause me problems or should I just bite the bullet and upgrade both now?

Coilovers...I have Koni SA shocks on now with a german spring. At the very least I need to pick a different spring because the car is too low and drags the cutout on stuff). The rear suspension is NOT a coilover type setup, BUT they do make a conversion for this car. For those who have converted another generation Fbody from stock style to a 4 link or other coilover rear setup do you feel it was a major advantage. I have heard the argument that the cost of converting to a coilover doesn't justify the performance benefit on a SRA car. The cost difference here between just upgrading springs (+ sways) vs coilovers (sways), is probably $2500.

Rear end. stock 10 bolt with 3.42 gears now. If I plan to keep a NA powerplant making between 475-550rwhp/475-500rwtq, should I just jump staight to 9" or is a 12 bolt an option? From what I have seen for a FAB9 housing with aluminum center section, Detroit locker, etc etc I'm looking at close to $4k. The issue here is that it affects wheel choice (as I could get the new rear narrowed and allow me to run a wider rear wheel vs stock), and brake selection (10 bolt c clipped vs 9" not). And detriot locker vs wavetrac vs trutrac?

Other ancillary parts needed (from what research I have done) are: new seats, new steering wheel, new TURN ONE power steering pump, 6 point cage and harnesses, battery relocation kit, and I really need to ditch the single cutout and go with dual low profile cutouts $400 issue.

This car is NOT my daily driver, but I do want it to be something I could get in and go on the power tour with, or drive 1000 miles to an event if I wanted to. I am keeping AC and creature comforts. I want the car to be very capable on AutoX/Roadcourse/speed stop, that is the car's focus, being drivable to cruise-ins etc is also a requirement.

Please help a fella trying to make smart choices to start with. I don't want to just buy a bunch of parts. If the motor hadn't blown my plan was to do the brakes, suspension, seats and hit RTTH and the LSfest. Then try to make most events next year. My conscience can't really take buying all this stuff at once (since its just a hobby), but what parts I buy, I don't want to skimp on, only resulting in me having to buy replacements soon after. I don't have a budget per se, I could spend probably $25-35K and make it REALLY competitive, but it would be alot easier to swallow spending $10K this year, then in a year or so, spend another 5K, then a year later another 5K etc.

Thanks for your responses!

[FASTFATBOY]

The cars you want to compete with are not REALLY street cars.

The cars I competed against earlier this year in Arlington were full blown race cars on 200 treadwear tires, some even on race fuel. The car that won overall? LG's ZR1 Vette.

Have no illusions as to what you are up against, the Ultimate "Streetcar" Faceoff is a misnomer, streetcars my ass. Cars with gutted interiors, on race fuel, race brakes, no a/c and a wing off a Cessna is what is in the running for these events.

I did the Long Haul this year on the Power Tour and competed on 300 tread wear tires, as I was loading all the trip crap back in my car to drive 400+ miles home, the top 10 cars there were being loaded into Nascar style haulers to go home.


You would be WAY ahead of the game with a C5 Z06, WAY ahead.

[pharmd]

The cars you want to compete with are not REALLY street cars.

The cars I competed against earlier this year in Arlington were full blown race cars on 200 treadwear tires, some even on race fuel. The car that won overall? LG's ZR1 Vette.

Have no illusions as to what you are up against, the Ultimate "Streetcar" Faceoff is a misnomer, streetcars my ass. Cars with gutted interiors, on race fuel, race brakes, no a/c and a wing off a Cessna is what is in the running for these events.

I did the Long Haul this year on the Power Tour and competed on 300 tread wear tires, as I was loading all the trip crap back in my car to drive 400+ miles home, the top 10 cars there were being loaded into Nascar style haulers to go home.


You would be WAY ahead of the game with a C5 Z06, WAY ahead.

Man, I know your trying to help out here but understand I AM NOT BUYING A VETTE. I don't expect to win, I'm just doing this for fun and to try to make this camaro the best that IT can be. I love Fbodies, I never have cared for vettes. Would I take one if someone gave it to me, Yes, but other than that I'm not going there. I have been to the events and seen what kind of cars run. They have $100k in them minimum, some are $250K +. The top 10 may be glorified race cars, but there are also just some guys with regular stuff out there just wanting to have fun. I have enough competition in other aspects of my life to worry about being competitive at this. This is suppose to be a release from the stress of work. I just want to get my car together, learn how to drive better, and enjoy hanging out with other car guys...racing, instead of sitting next to my car in a chair at a car show. If I improve and suprise some of the faster cars, so be it. But I'm not gonna lose sleep over it. My main goal is try not to break anything.