[Interceptor]

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-2013-c...aps-vir-2-58-34

Looks like a pretty competent package, and that guy can DRIVE! Not bad for 4000 lbs, I thought.

What are you guys running for lap times at VIR? What cars, what mods? I wonder how competetive the 1LE will be in SCCA, CMC, etc?

Discuss. This may be my next track day car, once they're used and affordable . . .

[00 SS]

The 3.6l v6 ATS is about 3550lbs from what I've read. I can't imagine that an LS3 is much heavier than the 3.6l direct injection with dual overhead cams. My 2008 CTS has this engine and the car weighs about 4000 lbs., it's not fast. It's fun and goes alright, but it's not fast. Still, a 430 hp 3500-3600 lbs car would be fun.

[1meanZ]

Still, a 430 hp 3500-3600 lbs car would be fun.

...oh you must be talking about the late model 5.0 Mustangs then...

Other than differences in opinions on styling, I'm not sure why anyone would buy a 5th generation Camaro over an S197 Mustang. As far as I can tell the Mustang is better in every way. Ford is getting it right, and until GM loses some of the weight and fragile IRS components, they're going to be playing second fiddle.

I'll also mention that it's a shame the Challenger is so heavy and poor handling(compared to the other new pony cars). It's arguably one of the best looking of the bunch, and I think the hemi has potential.

The 6th gen F-body needs to weigh 3400lbs, cost $20k for a base V8 car and be styled after the 70-73 body style. Go back to the solid axle to keep the car light and cheap. Go back to offering something with a basic stereo, cloth seating and manual windows and locks. Not asking for AC and radio delete, but offer a base model that is actually basic. If I could buy something like that, I'd sell at least one of my cars and buy it....