[Al weyman]

The thing looks like a bit of an air brake to me so I was wondering is there any advantage in removing it? I have a large aftermarket alloy rad and have also cut away the numberplate section and it runs well cool.

[Al weyman]

I find the thing annoying gets in the way when trying to jack the car up or get it on the trailer, its well bent back anyhow. I also have a huge Northern Rads alloy rad with two very efficient 12" fans and have cut awy the front where the number plate went and the car runs super cool. I don't believe I would have an over heating problem with my set up without the dam (could always take it off and refit afte practice if I do) but I am also interested in if the thing effects performance in a straight line as it does look like a bit of an airbrake to me. Oh I should add its a Camaro not a Firebird sl again better as a front breather.

This post has been edited by Al weyman: Jul 28 2013, 09:14 AM

[CrashTestDummy]

I find the thing annoying gets in the way when trying to jack the car up or get it on the trailer, its well bent back anyhow. I also have a huge Northern Rads alloy rad with two very efficient 12" fans and have cut awy the front where the number plate went and the car runs super cool. I don't believe I would have an over heating problem with my set up without the dam (could always take it off and refit afte practice if I do) but I am also interested in if the thing effects performance in a straight line as it does look like a bit of an airbrake to me. Oh I should add its a Camaro not a Firebird sl again better as a front breather.

I've spent a fair amount of time under our 92 B4C Camaro and find it to be much more of a 'bottom feeder' than a front breather. There's a fair amount of air being ducted into the intake from the front (100%, IIRC), and the front spoiler there is essential to keeping it cool.

Yes, they are a regular PITA to get a jack under. Luckily, they are mostly flexible, so ramming a jack under the car past the spoiler does little damage to the spoiler itself. Our trailer has 15'+ ramps, so the front spoiler isn't a trouble there. If it were, I'd do what I did to my 71 Trans Am C Prepared car, and that is mount all the front spoiler parts on Dzus fasteners. It was a 2-minute job removing and reinstalling them. I suspect I'll have to do that when we finally get a front splitter on the car (Paul?).

A couple of fellow competitors have done that to their 2nd Gen Camaro:

http://oversteergarage.com/cp-camaro/

The black bits on the front of the car come off with like 8 Dzus fasteners.

It shouldn't be too hard to configure something like that for just about any spoiler. I discovered on the Trans Am that anywhere a 3/8" bolt fit, a Dzus fastener will fit just as well with little mods. I think the 3rd Gen uses something small like 4mm bolts, but the holes for most of those bolts could probably be opened up a bit.