[FlatBlack]

Hello all,

Just picked up a 1998 Formula that I will be prepping for ESP class in SCCA Autocross. It's Blurple, but I don't care too much about my cars look (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I have some other things to take care of first, but wheels (17x9 or 10+) and suspension should come soon. I plan on Koni yellows and GC coilovers.

(IMG:http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/flatblack280/CYMERA_20140226_175210.jpg)

(IMG:http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh81/flatblack280/CYMERA_20140226_175226.jpg)

This post has been edited by FlatBlack: Feb 27 2014, 10:22 PM

[CrashTestDummy]

Hmm, I don't know if they did make a slicktop 4th Gen Fbird or not, or the weight. The extra weight for the reinforcement and all that glass is high and forward, not where you want it in an autocross situation. Additionally, and gain, I'm not sure about 4th Gens, but 2nd and 3rd Gens with t-tops were a bit more 'flexible' than the hardtop versions. I don't think you can overcome that issue in ESP.

But still, it has an LS engine, which has a TON of potential, and you can have a lot of fun in it. I think the Firebird actually has a bit more room in the wheel houses, so getting even more tire under the car, as opposed to a Camaro, may be possible. I'd get under the car and look around, though. 18" wheels may afford you more space to tuck more wheel and tire under the car. 18" wheels fit a lot better, especially under the front end, than a 17" wheel on a 3rd Gen. I know they have different front suspensions, especially up front, so you'll have to do some research yourself.

Since Watts Links are legal (bolt-on only, IIRC), you may want to look into that to put on your mods list. They really help the 3rd Gens.

[FlatBlack]

Hmm, I don't know if they did make a slicktop 4th Gen Fbird or not, or the weight. The extra weight for the reinforcement and all that glass is high and forward, not where you want it in an autocross situation. Additionally, and gain, I'm not sure about 4th Gens, but 2nd and 3rd Gens with t-tops were a bit more 'flexible' than the hardtop versions. I don't think you can overcome that issue in ESP.

But still, it has an LS engine, which has a TON of potential, and you can have a lot of fun in it. I think the Firebird actually has a bit more room in the wheel houses, so getting even more tire under the car, as opposed to a Camaro, may be possible. I'd get under the car and look around, though. 18" wheels may afford you more space to tuck more wheel and tire under the car. 18" wheels fit a lot better, especially under the front end, than a 17" wheel on a 3rd Gen. I know they have different front suspensions, especially up front, so you'll have to do some research yourself.

Since Watts Links are legal (bolt-on only, IIRC), you may want to look into that to put on your mods list. They really help the 3rd Gens.

Korry (Racer X) has a Watts link, and he likes it alot. I'd planned on it since they are reasonably priced, but I'm worried about all the clearance issues with the exhaust and swaybar. Probably won't do it for a while anyways, Korry has an adjustable panhard bar for me.