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FlatBlack
post Feb 27 2014, 10:20 PM
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Hello all,

Just picked up a 1998 Formula that I will be prepping for ESP class in SCCA Autocross. It's Blurple, but I don't care too much about my cars look (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I have some other things to take care of first, but wheels (17x9 or 10+) and suspension should come soon. I plan on Koni yellows and GC coilovers.

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2MCHPWR
post Aug 5 2014, 06:03 PM
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that is awesome. good to know. why did you choose the eaton over the other options?
did you have an auburn in there stock? i have 98 formula too (slicktop as you called it) so I think we'd both have auburns.
You still on stock LCA's and TA?

Can you run 315's on all 4 corners under stock fenders using 10.5 c5z06 rear wheels?

I'm jelly of your lowering springs. I'm on stock 1LE springs and its like a 4x4.
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post Aug 5 2014, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE (2MCHPWR @ Aug 5 2014, 06:03 PM) *
that is awesome. good to know. why did you choose the eaton over the other options?
did you have an auburn in there stock? i have 98 formula too (slicktop as you called it) so I think we'd both have auburns.
You still on stock LCA's and TA?

Can you run 315's on all 4 corners under stock fenders using 10.5 c5z06 rear wheels?

I'm jelly of your lowering springs. I'm on stock 1LE springs and its like a 4x4.


A local C5 guy here is running 315s front (17x9.5) and 335s rear (18x10.5) on his car... but they have double wishbone rear and I'm told they have a better camber curve?I'll eventually move to an 11, but I'm not going to pay 315 $$$ to run it super stretched on a 9.5.

*edit* That's not what you were asking (sorry). Yeah, All of the ESP guys I know of run 315 A6s, but they are on 17" rims. I see no problem with running them on a 10.5, but you might need spacers. My 18x9.5 Wagon Wheels rub on the back, I have ARP studs and run a 1/2" spacer. They are 56mm offset

My previous region's ESP group went through most of the diffs, and the Eaton clutch diff is the one that holds up to 315 A6s on all 4 corners. The helicals and Auburn Racer's diff didn't last long. My car came with the "Zexel-Torsen" diff. It didn't work after 120,000 miles.

The Strano Springs/Konis/bars and rear diff made this car go from a floaty boat to a heavy-set athletic girl (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) All the new people that walk up to me at Autocrosses seem amazed that the thing can turn corners, and I'm a midpack driver. I would really suggest getting the suspension kit if you can, it's worth it.

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post Aug 7 2014, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (FlatBlack @ Aug 5 2014, 02:47 PM) *
My previous region's ESP group went through most of the diffs, and the Eaton clutch diff is the one that holds up to 315 A6s on all 4 corners. The helicals and Auburn Racer's diff didn't last long. My car came with the "Zexel-Torsen" diff. It didn't work after 120,000 miles.



Has anyone actually rebuilt the Eaton CF clutch pack Posis with the stronger springs available (800# I believe?) to run autocross/open tracking/etc.??

Or would that make them even worse than a locker as far as being too 'spool-like' for corner exits/slow apexes/etc.????
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post Aug 7 2014, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE (dailydriver @ Aug 7 2014, 03:00 PM) *
QUOTE (FlatBlack @ Aug 5 2014, 02:47 PM) *
My previous region's ESP group went through most of the diffs, and the Eaton clutch diff is the one that holds up to 315 A6s on all 4 corners. The helicals and Auburn Racer's diff didn't last long. My car came with the "Zexel-Torsen" diff. It didn't work after 120,000 miles.



Has anyone actually rebuilt the Eaton CF clutch pack Posis with the stronger springs available (800# I believe?) to run autocross/open tracking/etc.??

Or would that make them even worse than a locker as far as being too 'spool-like' for corner exits/slow apexes/etc.????


Racer X Has a rebuild kit for his, he might be able to talk on that some.
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FlatBlack   1998 Formula Firebird LS1/T56 - ESP build   Feb 27 2014, 10:20 PM
trackbird   35mm front sway bar and a 21mm solid rear or 22mm ...   Feb 28 2014, 01:16 AM
Racer X   QUOTE (FlatBlack @ Feb 27 2014, 04:20 PM)...   Feb 28 2014, 01:39 AM
camarokid91   I like Blurple and Trans ams so I approve. I just ...   Feb 28 2014, 01:55 AM
CrashTestDummy   I like the color, too. You may be at a slight dis...   Feb 28 2014, 01:41 PM
FlatBlack   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Feb 28 2014, 01:4...   Feb 28 2014, 02:27 PM
CrashTestDummy   Hmm, I don't know if they did make a slicktop ...   Feb 28 2014, 06:04 PM
FlatBlack   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Feb 28 2014, 06:0...   Feb 28 2014, 10:25 PM
Racer X   QUOTE (camarokid91 @ Feb 27 2014, 07:55 P...   Mar 1 2014, 01:17 AM
robz71lm7   QUOTE (Racer X @ Feb 28 2014, 09:17 PM) N...   Aug 6 2014, 09:14 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Aug 6 2014, 02:14 PM) ...   Aug 7 2014, 12:45 AM
FlatBlack   I can't post in the Classifieds. Anyone have ...   Mar 11 2014, 02:18 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (FlatBlack @ Mar 11 2014, 10:18 AM)...   Mar 11 2014, 03:55 PM
FlatBlack   QUOTE (trackbird @ Mar 11 2014, 03:55 PM)...   Mar 12 2014, 12:34 AM
Racer X   QUOTE (FlatBlack @ Mar 11 2014, 09:18 AM)...   Mar 12 2014, 12:46 AM
FlatBlack   Got my Koni Sports and Strano Springs on last nigh...   Mar 18 2014, 01:38 PM
Racer X   QUOTE (FlatBlack @ Mar 18 2014, 08:38 AM)...   Mar 20 2014, 02:10 AM
FlatBlack   QUOTE (Racer X @ Mar 20 2014, 02:10 AM) T...   Mar 20 2014, 08:34 PM
FlatBlack   Got the rear bar/end links and panhard rod on last...   Mar 24 2014, 01:33 PM
79T/A   No issues with pulling the fuse. I do it when raci...   Mar 24 2014, 01:36 PM
CrashTestDummy   Man, unless the car has a nasty 'ice mode...   Mar 24 2014, 03:27 PM
FlatBlack   I"ll probably run with it for my first event ...   Mar 24 2014, 04:23 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (FlatBlack @ Mar 24 2014, 09:33 AM)...   Mar 24 2014, 04:27 PM
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FlatBlack   QUOTE (Racer X @ Mar 25 2014, 02:09 AM) Q...   Mar 25 2014, 04:23 PM
79T/A   It may have been because of a loose hub, but my ab...   Mar 24 2014, 04:31 PM
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Racer X   Does that gas station attendant give you odd looks...   Apr 7 2014, 12:26 AM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (FlatBlack @ Apr 6 2014, 01:49 PM) ...   Apr 7 2014, 05:02 PM
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dailydriver   QUOTE (FlatBlack @ Apr 6 2014, 01:49 PM) ...   Apr 8 2014, 09:07 PM
landstuhltaylor   QUOTE (FlatBlack @ Apr 7 2014, 04:16 PM) ...   Apr 11 2014, 07:41 PM
ReEntryRacer   QUOTE (FlatBlack @ Apr 6 2014, 10:49 AM) ...   Apr 12 2014, 08:28 AM
FlatBlack   QUOTE (ReEntryRacer @ Apr 12 2014, 08:28 ...   Apr 14 2014, 05:37 PM
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FlatBlack   Finally got pictures back from the Autocross. If a...   May 16 2014, 01:24 PM
2MCHPWR   what diff you going with? I think I want one too. ...   Aug 5 2014, 02:37 PM
FlatBlack   QUOTE (2MCHPWR @ Aug 5 2014, 02:37 PM) wh...   Aug 5 2014, 04:09 PM
2MCHPWR   that is awesome. good to know. why did you choose ...   Aug 5 2014, 06:03 PM
FlatBlack   QUOTE (2MCHPWR @ Aug 5 2014, 06:03 PM) th...   Aug 5 2014, 06:47 PM
dailydriver   QUOTE (FlatBlack @ Aug 5 2014, 02:47 PM) ...   Aug 7 2014, 03:00 PM
FlatBlack   QUOTE (dailydriver @ Aug 7 2014, 03:00 PM...   Aug 7 2014, 04:42 PM
79T/A   Yes you can use the 315's on z06 wheels all 4 ...   Aug 5 2014, 06:24 PM
Beach Cruiser   I run the Z06 rears all the way around with 315 ru...   Aug 7 2014, 10:55 AM
2MCHPWR   QUOTE (Beach Cruiser @ Aug 7 2014, 04:55 ...   Aug 7 2014, 12:28 PM
camarokid91   I run 315 Hooisers for SCCA and 305/660 + 305/680 ...   Aug 7 2014, 01:14 PM
FlatBlack   Track day at Harris Hill Road yesterday, someone g...   Oct 6 2014, 08:25 PM
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dailydriver   QUOTE (FlatBlack @ Oct 15 2014, 09:12 AM)...   Mar 21 2015, 10:51 PM
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dailydriver   QUOTE (FlatBlack @ Mar 23 2015, 03:58 PM)...   Mar 23 2015, 11:58 PM
FlatBlack   QUOTE (dailydriver @ Mar 23 2015, 11:58 P...   Mar 26 2015, 02:28 PM
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Smitty2919   Ahh yes brain fart. I meant it as the torsen helic...   Oct 9 2014, 08:17 PM
ReEntryRacer   QUOTE (Smitty2919 @ Oct 9 2014, 01:17 PM)...   Oct 9 2014, 09:48 PM
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Steve91T   You've got the wider tires up front?   Mar 20 2015, 03:55 PM
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