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Honda93
post Sep 1 2017, 10:55 PM
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In the last week or so, it cranks for 2-3 seconds before starting whereas it used to start immediately. I installed a new starter 6 months ago as you all may recall. I also installed a K&N fuel filter 10 month ago. No issues until last week.

Research online and on FRRAX is pointing to a fuel pump or fuel pressure regulator. Or the battery. Or the spark plugs.

Car runs super fine once started and starts right up once it has been running. If it sits 6+ hours, it'll revert to needing extra time.

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post Sep 4 2017, 04:28 PM
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Do you get any stumble on WOT runs in the upper RPM? Mine was doing that plus the slow start like you mentioned. I did a walbro 255 with racetronix kit and trap door method and it was fairly easy and economical compared to OEM and dropping the tank.

In the mean time, you can turn the key to on for a couple seconds and then crank it, that should help it start quicker.
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post Sep 5 2017, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE (mikedamageinc @ Sep 4 2017, 12:28 PM) *
Do you get any stumble on WOT runs in the upper RPM? Mine was doing that plus the slow start like you mentioned. I did a walbro 255 with racetronix kit and trap door method and it was fairly easy and economical compared to OEM and dropping the tank.

In the mean time, you can turn the key to on for a couple seconds and then crank it, that should help it start quicker.


None that I notice. Pulls strong.

Also, the last two days (3 starts in all) it fired right up.

So, this is the Racetronix part?

https://www.texas-speed.com/p-2361-racetron...p-assembly.aspx

Will I still need to get the Wallbro 255 separately or will the Racetronix do it all? I plan on keeping the motor stock.

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post Sep 5 2017, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE (Honda93 @ Sep 4 2017, 10:27 PM) *
QUOTE (mikedamageinc @ Sep 4 2017, 12:28 PM) *
Do you get any stumble on WOT runs in the upper RPM? Mine was doing that plus the slow start like you mentioned. I did a walbro 255 with racetronix kit and trap door method and it was fairly easy and economical compared to OEM and dropping the tank.

In the mean time, you can turn the key to on for a couple seconds and then crank it, that should help it start quicker.


None that I notice. Pulls strong.

Also, the last two days (3 starts in all) it fired right up.

So, this is the Racetronix part?

https://www.texas-speed.com/p-2361-racetron...p-assembly.aspx

Will I still need to get the Wallbro 255 separately or will the Racetronix do it all? I plan on keeping the motor stock.


That looks like everything you need, I got mine at ws6store though, as long as it's not just the regulator like mentioned above. Mine was going bad for a long time, which is why I probably got the missing and it wasn't severe, just felt like a slight miss close to 6k like it needed a tune up or something.
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post Sep 5 2017, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE (mikedamageinc @ Sep 5 2017, 09:43 AM) *
That looks like everything you need, I got mine at ws6store though, as long as it's not just the regulator like mentioned above. Mine was going bad for a long time, which is why I probably got the missing and it wasn't severe, just felt like a slight miss close to 6k like it needed a tune up or something.


Isn't the regulator in the fuel tank on the pump assembly on the 1999-2002 cars? Or an I mistaking it for something else?
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Honda93   Long crank time before first start of day   Sep 1 2017, 10:55 PM
trackbird   If you turn the key on (but don't try to start...   Sep 2 2017, 12:40 AM
Honda93   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 1 2017, 08:40 PM) ...   Sep 2 2017, 12:24 PM
GCrites80s   Does the car have a distributor, Opti-Spark or coi...   Sep 2 2017, 01:41 AM
Honda93   QUOTE (GCrites80s @ Sep 1 2017, 09:41 PM)...   Sep 2 2017, 12:25 PM
CrashTestDummy   That's a tell tale for a fuel pump. Get a gaug...   Sep 2 2017, 02:28 PM
Honda93   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Sep 2 2017, 10:28...   Sep 2 2017, 05:36 PM
GCrites80s   QUOTE (Honda93 @ Sep 2 2017, 01:36 PM) QU...   Sep 5 2017, 02:06 AM
Honda93   QUOTE (GCrites80s @ Sep 4 2017, 10:06 PM)...   Sep 5 2017, 02:29 AM
Honda93   Or... Is OEM the way to go since the original last...   Sep 2 2017, 10:14 PM
Honda93   Going to have to put a gauge on it. It started rig...   Sep 3 2017, 07:56 PM
CrashTestDummy   That's why the gauges. It's looking like a...   Sep 4 2017, 02:01 AM
mikedamageinc   Do you get any stumble on WOT runs in the upper RP...   Sep 4 2017, 04:28 PM
Honda93   QUOTE (mikedamageinc @ Sep 4 2017, 12:28 ...   Sep 5 2017, 02:27 AM
mikedamageinc   QUOTE (Honda93 @ Sep 4 2017, 10:27 PM) QU...   Sep 5 2017, 01:43 PM
Honda93   QUOTE (mikedamageinc @ Sep 5 2017, 09:43 ...   Sep 5 2017, 04:19 PM
Shortcutsleeping   The two times I've encountered this on third g...   Sep 5 2017, 05:21 AM
JimMueller   I installed a Racetronix 255LPH pump and hotwire k...   Sep 5 2017, 04:17 PM
Honda93   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Sep 5 2017, 12:17 PM)...   Sep 5 2017, 04:20 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Sep 5 2017, 12:17 PM)...   Sep 7 2017, 01:49 AM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Sep 5 2017, 11:17 AM)...   Sep 7 2017, 02:40 AM
Mojave   I cut the trap door on my last street car, and was...   Sep 5 2017, 04:30 PM
mikedamageinc   Resale value would be my only concern and even tha...   Sep 5 2017, 06:06 PM
slowTA   I see it this way, to do a trap door I would want ...   Sep 5 2017, 11:30 PM
Honda93   QUOTE (slowTA @ Sep 5 2017, 07:30 PM) I s...   Sep 6 2017, 02:47 AM
Mojave   QUOTE (slowTA @ Sep 5 2017, 06:30 PM) I s...   Sep 6 2017, 07:49 PM
CrashTestDummy   That would have cost GM an additional $0.25 P...   Sep 6 2017, 02:58 AM
slowTA   Dropping the tank isn't the worst job ever ass...   Sep 6 2017, 11:38 AM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (slowTA @ Sep 6 2017, 06:38 AM) ...   Sep 6 2017, 05:26 PM
slowTA   What did you use to cut the hole? Did you find a ...   Sep 6 2017, 09:33 PM
Mojave   QUOTE (slowTA @ Sep 6 2017, 04:33 PM) Wha...   Sep 6 2017, 10:19 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (slowTA @ Sep 6 2017, 05:33 PM) Wha...   Sep 8 2017, 11:04 AM
GCrites80s   In the mid-90s my neighbor had an '87 TA. He w...   Sep 7 2017, 12:24 AM
Honda93   If I didn't want to go Racetronix, which of th...   Sep 7 2017, 04:30 PM
Honda93   UPDATE I put a fuel pressure gauge on it and turn...   Sep 7 2017, 11:17 PM
GCrites80s   It could also be an injector (or more than one) no...   Sep 8 2017, 12:49 AM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (GCrites80s @ Sep 7 2017, 07:49 PM)...   Sep 8 2017, 02:40 AM
GCrites80s   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Sep 7 2017, 10:40...   Sep 8 2017, 02:45 PM
CrashTestDummy   You'll probably need a good hole saw so you ca...   Sep 8 2017, 12:24 PM
GCrites80s   But argh, we're talking about pulling 4th gen ...   Sep 8 2017, 02:48 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (GCrites80s @ Sep 8 2017, 10:48 AM)...   Sep 8 2017, 03:44 PM
GCrites80s   ^EGR is pretty messy on an LS1.   Sep 9 2017, 01:51 AM

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