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JimMueller
post Feb 14 2018, 10:26 PM
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Ahh, I miss the good ol' days of these conversations on FRRAX...starting at post 38

https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brake...ng-springs.html

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post Feb 15 2018, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (dojob @ Feb 15 2018, 08:42 AM) *
I was genuinely asking why he doesn't post on this forum anymore? A fbody specific forum and he doesn't communicate here? There has to be a reason.


If he did, someone would just scream at him that he's selling stuff (or trying) without being a sponsor here. I honestly believe he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Hell, BMR tried to call him out as posting as another person on LS1tech. Talk about a cluster fuck....when other vendors are even slinging shit at you.

Some people make Sam out to be that evil movie villain...the guy you love to hate. And I guess if that's what makes them happy, they are going to keep doing it.


QUOTE (landstuhltaylor @ Feb 15 2018, 10:15 AM) *
How do people know he offers things if he doesn't tell them about it? Especially if it's not specifically listed on his site? I've also never seen any evidence of these claims of manipulating consumers. I have seen BMR and MWC deleting threads left and right to hide things so I can understand his frustration. I don't understand the crapping on him for hiding his wheel specs. It's incredibly easy to find what works off a search. If people don't want to do the research themselves they can hit the easy button and call Sam. Again how is that manipulative?

Mostly, it's just Sam being Sam. Aside from the whining he does sometimes you would know that his customer interaction is just the way he is. Sometimes that can be a bit abrasive and a bit too blunt for people as they aren't ready to listen to what he has to say. Even though we clash sometimes on setup he has always been willing to help make the car better or just lend a hand at events. At Nationals this year he lent me his tire blankets just so that I could have some hope of getting heat in the car. All that after I bought suspension from other vendors as well as some other things from alternate sources. He still critiqued the setup on the car like always and I throw a few friendly jabs back. Just the way it is.

The whining about his whining is what really makes me laugh.


That's basically what I was saying above. And lots of stuff isn't on his website because updating the site to reflect every single thing would be another full time job. The problem with making a living in sales is that people hate salesmen...even helpful ones.


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QUOTE (JimMueller @ Feb 15 2018, 10:42 AM) *
QUOTE (rpoz-29 @ Feb 15 2018, 09:55 AM) *
I miss your cat stories.


Chester FTMFW

http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?sho...ic=8664&hl=

I loved that mouse.......


Ha. Chester and Midnight, those were great days. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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JimMueller   And that's when the fight started...   Feb 14 2018, 10:26 PM
slowTA   I saw he Facebooked a link to that post along with...   Feb 14 2018, 10:35 PM
GCrites80s   Sam can talk to his credit card processor to get t...   Feb 15 2018, 02:06 AM
dojob   Why hasn't Sam posted on here since 2011? But ...   Feb 15 2018, 03:47 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Feb 14 2018, 05:26 PM...   Feb 15 2018, 12:58 PM
dojob   Since I was the one on ls1tech that sent Sam off o...   Feb 15 2018, 01:42 PM
rpoz-29   I miss your cat stories.   Feb 15 2018, 02:55 PM
JimMueller   QUOTE (rpoz-29 @ Feb 15 2018, 09:55 ...   Feb 15 2018, 03:42 PM
rpoz-29   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Feb 15 2018, 10:42 AM...   Feb 15 2018, 06:50 PM
Midnight da Cat   QUOTE (rpoz-29 @ Feb 15 2018, 06:50 ...   Feb 16 2018, 12:30 PM
rpoz-29   QUOTE (Midnight da Cat @ Feb 16 2018, 07...   Feb 18 2018, 01:57 PM
Rentedmule   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Feb 15 2018, 03:42 PM...   Feb 16 2018, 03:47 PM
landstuhltaylor   How do people know he offers things if he doesn...   Feb 15 2018, 03:15 PM
00 SS   I've talked to Sam many times and bought many ...   Feb 15 2018, 05:06 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (dojob @ Feb 15 2018, 08:42 AM) I w...   Feb 15 2018, 09:18 PM
GCrites80s   One thing I've learned in over 8 years of bein...   Feb 16 2018, 03:21 AM
CrashTestDummy   I was wondering when Midnight would chime in!...   Feb 16 2018, 01:38 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Feb 16 2018, 08:3...   Feb 16 2018, 02:42 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (trackbird @ Feb 16 2018, 08:42 AM)...   Feb 16 2018, 04:04 PM
Smitty2919   I would suspect Sam doesn't post here because ...   Feb 23 2018, 05:57 PM
dojob   Danny runs RAFT motorsports on the side of his day...   Feb 23 2018, 06:38 PM
Smitty2919   I knew about RAFT, but I took it more as a cult fo...   Feb 24 2018, 03:29 PM

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