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CrashTestDummy
post Apr 15 2025, 09:06 PM
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We're updating some bits in our 92 B4C 1LE Camaro RS ex-Tx DPS car, like headliner and carpet, to start. Both have enjoyed decades of police use and life as a race car. The headliner fell years ago, but since I wasn't DDing it anymore, I didn't worry much, but quietly gathered parts while I was working and tucked them away in our shop. We are finally mostly-done with the restomod of the SVO, so I figured that it was a good time to start on the Camaro. I'm STILL gathering parts, as things have broken and been discovered missing while disassembly progressed.

Since I'm waiting on parts, I figured I'd get the headliner down and unpacked so I can figure out what I need to do for the install. It's one of those ABS things that everyone complains about. When I was buying, the reviews seemed to be all 1's or 5's, and not having much choice, bought one. I think I got it from Hawks, but am unsure. I know they just resell one of the couple that are on the market, so kwality issues really aren't on them.

When I pulled the thing from the bag, I discovered that parts of the material are ALREADY sagging, and it seems the foam between the backing board and material has deteriorated. When you touch the material, it leaves an indentation in the fabric. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif) I'm kind of pi$$ed at this, but also kind of relieved we didn't install this thing only to have it fall while in the car in little time.

I'm not sure what to do at this point. The old headliner board is broken in several places, in spite of trying to go easy with the removal. It was a cheap POS, too, so I'm not sure it can be reused. I'm half-tempted to pull the material off the 'new' ABS board, cleaning it, and then getting and installing some new material, but my last experience with that job years ago was a total failure (headliner on a '83 Impala).

Does anyone know of a good manufacturer to order from? This crap sux!!

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Entire new headliner after pulling out of the packaging.

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Edge by B-pillar showing sagging material.

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Edge of headliner showing depression where it was handled.... a couple of years ago!

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post Jun 11 2025, 03:57 PM
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It would be nice to take both our SVO. and Camaro to an autocross event, just for old times sake, although neither will be competitive. There are still a few guys making events that were running when we raced these cars.

I got the back seats and console back in. The console was a bisch! The e-brake has to be pretty much vertical to drop the. top of the console on, and ours is adjusted kind of tight, so we only have about 10-15-degrees of rotation until it's set. I had to remove the brake anchor bolts so I could wiggle the top into place, then sneak my hand under the top with varying combinations of long and short 10mm sockets and extensions to get the brake re-secured.

I'll hopefully give the passenger seat a final cleaning and bolt it into place, then that side of the car should be done. The driver's seat was a replacement, so was covered in another color fabric. Remanufactured seat covers in matching fabric are NLA, so I got some decent take-offs to install. The seat back foam is kind of worn on the outside bolster, so I'm going to replace that. I got lucky, and may have found the last repro seat foam in the country. It's on the truck for delivery as I type.

In spite of my co-driver stating that we'll NEVER do seat covers again, we're.... doing seat covers again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) I'm hoping it's not the relationship-limiting activity it was when we did the seat covers on the SVO!
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CrashTestDummy   Why do aftermarket headliners suck so much?   Apr 15 2025, 09:06 PM
Rentedmule   That sucks! I don't have any input, but my...   Apr 16 2025, 11:34 AM
CrashTestDummy   If they're experienced with that sort of thing...   Apr 16 2025, 04:04 PM
CrashTestDummy   I think a semi-popular R&R method is to coat t...   Apr 16 2025, 09:29 PM
Rentedmule   Aftermarket parts availability seems to be improvi...   Apr 17 2025, 11:21 AM
CrashTestDummy   I'm thinking so, too. Since it seems I'll...   Apr 17 2025, 05:52 PM
CrashTestDummy   Parts are on. order to use the original backer boa...   Apr 23 2025, 08:27 PM
CrashTestDummy   We finally got the old headliner board coated in r...   Apr 28 2025, 02:03 PM
CrashTestDummy   Done with this part of the project. I ended up re...   Jun 5 2025, 04:15 PM
Rentedmule   It doesn't look too bad from the pictures. I a...   Jun 9 2025, 12:22 PM
CrashTestDummy   It would be nice to take both our SVO. and Camaro ...   Jun 11 2025, 03:57 PM
CrashTestDummy   Things are slowly coming together on the Camaro. ...   Jul 8 2025, 06:54 PM

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