[Jon A]

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Unbelievable! Anybody else follow this thread?

http://69.56.235.42/forums/showthread.php?...threadid=471156

Posts being edited and deleted. What a joke. The original posts were edited to take out links on where to buy the stuff and to the manufacturers because they aren't sponsors. Somebody asked, "Well then, who among the sponsors sells the stuff so I could buy from a sponsor?" Instead of answering the question, "The Man" simply deleted the post that asked the question. Show me which banner add to click on that has all those harness options in its online catalog and I'll shut up. Nope, easier to just delete it. Now that's helping the F-Body racing community alright....

A post brought up the point that sponsors are moderators there. An example (mine) is Todd @ Discount tire moderating the wheels/tire/suspension section. Here's an example thread:

http://69.56.235.42/forums/showthread.php?...ight=sponsor%2A

Originally posted by Todd@DiscountTireDirect
blah WAY too much posting of non sponsors.  Support the site that supports you

Gee, I got 8 AFS wheels including shipping off Ebay for what he wants for four. Oh, crap! Did I say that outloud!?! DELETE!!!

Sorry guys, just had to vent. I've told many here about my opinion of that site lately but it really has gotten rediculous. I figured the masses might want to know why I don't post there anymore. There's nothing wrong with sites having sponsors. But when a site goes out of its way to purposely keep F-Body guys from helping other F-Body guys in the interest of $$$, it has gone too far.

Thank God we have this place!

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[lateapex]

GM, like Porsche, is very accomplished at milking little incremental improvements for all they are worth. Since they have revealed 6.3 / 6.4 liter working prototypes, I think that they will do what they did with the 2001 ZO6. The first/second year buyers, the ones who bleed Corvette blood when the get cut, will forgive the General once again. Maybe this time GM won’t be so transparent; like you suggested, they may wait 2 years before introducing the bigger engine. Then they will get “1st year sales” all over again on a 3 year old model, and can justify bumping the price another $3K. And again, they will get the best advertisement there is: free front cover pics on every auto mag in the world followed by feature articles. No guys can hype cars like car guys. I can see it now, “THE 427 IS BACK AND BADDER THAN EVER”.

But, I am willing to wager big bucks, seriously, that the C6 ZO6 will not weigh under 3050 lbs at the curb. I mean the real curb weight. That 2850 internet figure is just silly. Stupid. The new C6 weighs 3245 minimum per GM. Current ZO6, at 3181, is 70 lbs lighter than a C5. They will not save more than 100 lbs by simply replacing the 2 side rails with aluminum versions, and maybe a carbon hood. Anyway, if it comes out with 500 hp, there will have to be a beefed up drive train and/or heat exchangers which add weight. Those 3 valve heads don’t look lighter. And another 4 to 6 airbags/curtains and pyrotechnic seat belts if they want to keep up with the safety Nazis. I am truly impressed that they have the weight of the current Z at 3181; that’s about 80 lbs less than the all aluminum 360 Modena and 20 lbs less than the smaller, less powerful Porsche GT3. Ferrari “claims” the curb weight of the Enzo is 3009 lbs. Car and Driver weighed it: 3262 lbs curb. That is an all carbon fiber monocoque costing $660,000. Yea, GM is going to hit 2850.