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severous01
post Sep 5 2005, 01:24 AM
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what i'm looking for is a fuel alternative, and alcohol is only at 2/gal right now. that's going to be about half the price by the end of the week. if i don't have to do much i'd like to run alcohol. there are many benefits to doing this, just a few: runs cooler, burns cleaner, doesnt detonate, cheaper...just for a few pluses.

any way, what needs to be done to run alcohol? fuel filter change? pump change? timing changes? injector changes? ECM changes?
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post Sep 7 2005, 11:25 AM
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i talked to a car guru buddy of mine. this is what he says:

injectors have to be changed. since gas runs at 14:1 and alcohol runs at 7:1, you basically have to double whatever injector pressure you're running now.

you have to eliminate all emissions equipment. 02 sensors will read more o2 in the exhaust since alcohol is an "oxygenated" fuel. since it already has oxygen in it, the o2 levels in the exhaust are far more than that of gas, so the ECM will pump more fuel in until exhaust becomes that of what gas needs.

alcohol does not eat aluminum, however, it does destroy rubber. all rubber lines for gas must be swapped over to a teflon lined or braided steel. also, if the fuel tank is not stainless steel or plastic, it also has to be swapped.

he suggested running a carb type system because most people running alcohol do not run with injectors. it's easier to run a blown/carb'd system and there is way more potential than with injectors.

Alcohol does not detonate under pressure like gas. pressures of upwards around 80 PSI have been reached on blown apps and did not detonate like gas does.
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severous01   running alcohol on a street car?   Sep 5 2005, 01:24 AM
trackbird   It eats everything, hoses, aluminum, etc. It's...   Sep 5 2005, 02:01 AM
Formula WS6   i asked this question years and years ago before i...   Sep 5 2005, 03:21 AM
nape   QUOTE (Formula WS6 @ Sep 4 2005, 21:21)i aske...   Sep 5 2005, 05:40 AM
zlexiss   E85 is 85% ethanol (thus the name) There's al...   Sep 5 2005, 08:17 PM
severous01   so....alcohol is a no-go in a street car? that su...   Sep 5 2005, 09:06 PM
Formula WS6   dang it i had it backwards. i was thinking it was ...   Sep 5 2005, 11:23 PM
gillbot   http://www.e85fuel.com/index.php   Sep 6 2005, 08:10 PM
severous01   i talked to a car guru buddy of mine. this is wha...   Sep 7 2005, 11:25 AM
nape   Not sure how much info is out there, but quite a f...   Sep 8 2005, 03:51 AM
sgarnett   I disagree on the O2 sensors. I'm a bit out of...   Sep 8 2005, 12:28 PM
JimMueller   I found this thread by a guy who says acetone will...   Sep 9 2005, 12:06 AM
severous01   i'll try the mixture of 2.5oz per 13 galons in...   Sep 9 2005, 04:11 PM
trackbird   It was discussed here. I'm not interested in t...   Sep 9 2005, 04:27 PM
severous01   well, before i was getting about 16 mpg in the hon...   Sep 11 2005, 02:40 PM
severous01   just an update for ya...i ran into a problem...act...   Sep 22 2005, 08:24 PM

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