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ESPCamaro
post Sep 1 2005, 09:43 AM
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WHY?

You know what I do when I can't afford something. I don't buy it. Not some people if they can't afford it they just find a way to TAKE IT from someone who can.

And ANY excuse to do so is fair game. Even if it involved you neibors being homeless or dead.


I even heard that just now on the news that these morons were steeling guns and firing at national guard and aid choppers.


Sometimes I think it would be just easier to shoot people like this than to bother with the "justice system"


PUKE!
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Rob Hood
post Sep 11 2005, 05:51 AM
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Well, I've read this thread and have decided to post to it. Here's my view on the whole sad affair from the storm to the looting to the poor response by the government (all levels).

1. The state KNEW the storm was coming. By that I mean public officials and private citizens. The Mayor and Governor were not only slow to react, but required prompting from the President to take action. Many private citizens purposely ignored the warnings and stayed behind.

2. The city and state did not have a disaster preparedness plan in place, or if they did, did not implement it. As a result, hundreds of school and public buses sat idly by instead of being used to relocate personnel to higher ground or out of harm's way, and hundreds of criminals were simply released vice transported to another jail. Released criminals = looting, rape, murder....

3. The levys were designed to only hold under a Category 3 storm, not a Category 4 or higher. This has been a known fact for decades. Blaming the current President (whoever he is) for poor levy design/maintenance is incorrect.

4. The city was built in a below-sea level area roughly 200 years ago. Looks like the law of averages finally caught up, unfortunately.

5. Looters should be shot, period. One's integrity should not change just because a natural disaster occurred.

6. Give to reputable charities. And I do mean GIVE. Not just money, but clothes, blood (thanks Julie!) and furniture. Many people lost everything. Whether they were "good people" or "bad people" should be immaterial at this point.

7. Take notice of what didn't happen at the local, state, and federal level, and develop an emergency plan for yourself and your family. Design the plan around the following factors:

a. Develop an escape route (and alternates). Figure out the best roads to use. Sometimes they won't be the interstates, as they may be clogged.

b. Using the escape route, establish a meeting point/place. If need be, establish an alternative method of signaling as a backup in case cell towers/land lines are down.

c. At home, keep containers of essential supplies at the ready for easy loading into your vehicle. Wouldn't hurt to keep a couple of water bottles and breakfast bars in the trunk or spare tire void as well.

d. Keep your important papers (wills, deeds, ET slips, suspension setups, inventory of personal effects) in a lockable strongbox that you can carry.

e. Also keep cash in the strongbox. Decide on an amount and leave it in there.

f. Get a generator that will support your household's electrical load (most on this board have a generator already, IIRC).


Frankly, if the city and state governments had reacted in a more proactive manner, a great majority of the problems post-storm would have been eliminated or significantly reduced. And there was no slow-down in providing assistance just because of a person's race. That is just untrue, and the statement itself wreaks of racial bias on its own. It's sad enough that there are poor people in New Orleans, or anywhere, but it is downright ignorant to use race in this case. The reason the majority of the people shown on TV (on any channel) were black is because a higher percentage of blacks lived in downtown NO than whites. That ain't MY fault. And the media could do a better job of reporting both good and bad news. Right now, the big three (CBS, NBC, ABC) predominantly report from a negative viewpoint, and also report from a predominantly anti-Republican, anti-Christian, anti-White Male viewpoint. We would all be better served if race was ignored and not used as a crutch standpoint just because it is a convenient perspective to hide behind.

I sincerely hope that everyone is able to recover and move forward from this tragedy, and that improvements will be implemented to reduce the potential impact of future storms.
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ESPCamaro   Looters in New Orleans   Sep 1 2005, 09:43 AM
mitchntx   That is just really sad ... Looting for food or w...   Sep 1 2005, 09:53 AM
Teutonic Speedracer   Yeah, it shows how really screwed up some people a...   Sep 1 2005, 10:51 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 1 2005, 04:43)I even h...   Sep 1 2005, 11:20 AM
pknowles   It really taints my heart toward wanting to help t...   Sep 1 2005, 12:27 PM
slowTA   First you start off feeling sorry for everyone dow...   Sep 1 2005, 12:34 PM
PF Flyer   ... and, unfortunately, the worst is still yet to ...   Sep 1 2005, 01:24 PM
trackbird   Install a couple snipers on roof tops. If they are...   Sep 1 2005, 01:36 PM
TwistedFocus   I heard on the radio today that they are sending m...   Sep 1 2005, 01:50 PM
pknowles   QUOTE Sorry, it just irritates me when I see peopl...   Sep 1 2005, 02:05 PM
Absolut Speed   I figure the smart ones already left. New Orleans...   Sep 1 2005, 02:11 PM
CMC #37   Please don't hold back any donations guys, the...   Sep 1 2005, 04:45 PM
BigEnos   I really hope that many of the businesses and peop...   Sep 1 2005, 04:51 PM
v7guy   the amazing part is that they have now stopped res...   Sep 1 2005, 05:21 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Sep 1 2005, 03:53)That is j...   Sep 1 2005, 09:18 PM
robz71lm7   It's really sad, but when you look at it the p...   Sep 2 2005, 01:12 AM
ESPCamaro   The sad thing is that there are "charities...   Sep 2 2005, 01:50 AM
sgarnett   BTW, Mathew Patterson (00 Trans AM) lives in New O...   Sep 2 2005, 02:15 AM
Mericet   What really got my blood going me tonight was the ...   Sep 2 2005, 04:04 AM
4manracing   This whole thing is unbelievable and the jerks tha...   Sep 2 2005, 10:37 PM
TOO Z MAXX   I feel the looters who are stealing guns, stereos,...   Sep 3 2005, 06:03 AM
trackbird   I spend about as much time and money on my firearm...   Sep 3 2005, 06:43 AM
93yellowfbody   it's on what's going on over there i liv...   Sep 3 2005, 01:36 PM
Teutonic Speedracer   Hopefully this doesn't offend anyone. Another...   Sep 8 2005, 01:58 AM
CMC #37   I agree with the part that the amount of people on...   Sep 8 2005, 03:42 AM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Sep 1 2005, 22:15)BTW, Math...   Sep 8 2005, 06:29 AM
rmackintosh   Personally, I think all the finger pointing ON BOT...   Sep 8 2005, 03:56 PM
mitchntx   The Feds act upon recommendations by the locals, d...   Sep 8 2005, 05:11 PM
rmackintosh   ...this kinda stuff is why I EVERY time someone...   Sep 8 2005, 06:27 PM
ESPCamaro   Huh fox news huh. Funny that they concentrate on ...   Sep 9 2005, 09:56 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 9 2005, 03:56)But in c...   Sep 9 2005, 06:54 PM
pknowles   I agree with Randy as far as don't blame Bush ...   Sep 9 2005, 07:22 PM
sgarnett   Trying to help refugees that are shooting back add...   Sep 10 2005, 01:01 AM
rpoz-29   QUOTE It exposed US as americans. Not only are we ...   Sep 10 2005, 01:02 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (rpoz-29 @ Sep 9 2005, 20:02)QUOTE...   Sep 10 2005, 01:14 AM
rpoz-29   You're probably right. I read that the jails i...   Sep 10 2005, 01:45 PM
sgarnett   Yes, my heart goes out to both the public employee...   Sep 10 2005, 03:34 PM
Teutonic Speedracer   QUOTE (rpoz-29 @ Sep 10 2005, 08:45)Of c...   Sep 10 2005, 08:33 PM
Rob Hood   Well, I've read this thread and have decided t...   Sep 11 2005, 05:51 AM
bruecksteve   The Wall Street Journal September 6, 2005 COMMENTA...   Sep 11 2005, 02:51 PM
bruecksteve   Politics over duty This is a post from a reporter...   Sep 11 2005, 02:56 PM
Jeff97FST/A   Last week I was at the local Wally World. There wa...   Sep 11 2005, 03:05 PM
Rob Hood   The looters are taking the goods (whatever they ar...   Sep 11 2005, 04:12 PM
John_D.   QUOTE (Rob Hood @ Sep 10 2005, 23:51)d. Keep...   Sep 11 2005, 08:01 PM
robz71lm7   Want to make your blood boil? http://mfile.akamai...   Sep 13 2005, 04:18 AM
ESPCamaro   They SHOULD be disarming everone. It will help to ...   Sep 13 2005, 10:11 AM
Nick   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 13 2005, 04:11)They SH...   Sep 13 2005, 10:38 AM
rpoz-29   I don't think anyone can speak for how"mo...   Sep 13 2005, 01:14 PM
trackbird   Don't forget the abortion crowd (ok, the anti-...   Sep 13 2005, 01:49 PM
robz71lm7   QUOTE They SHOULD be disarming everyone. It will h...   Sep 13 2005, 01:57 PM
pknowles   QUOTE If I were in NO, I'd be there armed. Sor...   Sep 13 2005, 02:04 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Sep 13 2005, 08:57)QUOTE A...   Sep 13 2005, 02:44 PM
robz71lm7   QUOTE So, who do you vote for? Michael Badnarik.   Sep 13 2005, 03:51 PM
Formula WS6   boy did this thread change topics. personally i t...   Sep 14 2005, 03:08 AM
Rob Hood   QUOTE personally i think more people need to carry...   Sep 14 2005, 03:44 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (Formula WS6 @ Sep 13 2005, 22:08)perso...   Sep 14 2005, 03:45 AM
Formula WS6   oh yeah i tried reading the lost dignity thread an...   Sep 14 2005, 04:42 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Sep 8 2005, 02:29)QUOTE (...   Sep 23 2005, 03:05 AM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Sep 22 2005, 23:05)QUOTE ...   Oct 6 2005, 03:11 AM
Formula WS6   im hoping maybe hes just no longer frequenting thi...   Oct 9 2005, 11:51 PM
z28barnett   I voted for Bush, at the moment I feel pretty sill...   Oct 10 2005, 12:21 AM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (Formula WS6 @ Oct 9 2005, 19:51)im hop...   Oct 10 2005, 11:24 PM
Formula WS6   oh well yeah that's definetly not a good sign....   Oct 12 2005, 12:15 AM
rpoz-29   Hopefully it's a matter of priorities, and he ...   Oct 12 2005, 05:51 PM
robz71lm7   http://frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?act=ST&f=6&t=58...   Oct 13 2005, 02:12 AM
00 Trans Ram   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Sep 22 2005, 21:05)QUOTE ...   Oct 13 2005, 02:55 AM
00 Trans Ram   Oh, one other thing that pisses me off. Have ya...   Oct 13 2005, 03:02 AM
Absolut Speed   Glad to hear you're okay, with the added bonus...   Oct 13 2005, 03:17 AM
Teutonic Speedracer   Good to hear you are sorting things out, bummer ab...   Oct 13 2005, 11:06 AM
rpoz-29   Glad you made it through. Some hellish pictures of...   Oct 13 2005, 11:58 AM
Eugenio_SS   Glad you kicking and breathing. There is a lot of ...   Oct 14 2005, 01:54 PM
firehawkclone   Glad to hear that you and your family is well. B...   Oct 14 2005, 02:18 PM
00 Trans Ram   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Oct 14 2005, 07:54)Glad y...   Oct 14 2005, 04:52 PM
CMC #37   I am glad you are ok; really sorry for your grandm...   Oct 14 2005, 06:55 PM
Formula WS6   this is good news. glad to know you made it out.   Oct 15 2005, 04:57 PM

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