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 Everyone likes a good "Conspiracy Theory", Is big time racing wrecking for dollars? |
  Feb 17 2004, 05:54 PM
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Nothing says 'I love you.' like a box of Hydroshoks  Group: Moderators Posts: 5,284 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 4  |
After watching a some of the coverage of the Daytona 500 this weekend and hearing a lot of discussion about the costs associated with feilding a competitive team and hearing the gnashing of teeth surrounding the dwindling sponsorships and hearing the concerns about enough cars to field a full grid and seeing Waltrip's wild tumble and seeing that tumble re-played on network after network after network ....
I began to wonder .... Because it's all about the number of minutes a specific sponsor get's it's name on TV, when will a driver, who is an "also ran", purposely wreck his car, just get gleen a few extra minutes of sponsor coverage? Is it cost effective to spend a $100,000 race car in order to keep a $10 million sponsor? NAPA received tons of exposure from networks to local TV stations replaying his wreck. I would hate to see that happen on purpose, but ... it has to be there in someone's mind ... |
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Feb 17 2004, 09:09 PM
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No El-Use-O. Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,368 Joined: 27-December 03 From: SW Michigan Member No.: 52 |
Nascar IS american racing. Think what you wan't. Take away Nascar and keep all the road racing series alive and there is NO American racing.
Your only hope was Cart. Which in the early 90's was GREAT. I watched every race. Through a 5-7 year stretch. But Tony George ruined that...AND the greatest race in the world. There is one simple reason why there is sponsorship issues in the cup series. Because sponsors DO EXPECT RESULTS. Guys who don't have a sponsor don't produce results. Period. Budweiser, Napa, Home Depot, Dupont, Lowes....how much money do you think it would take for another company to buy sponsorship into those teams? ALOT. Because those sponsors are not going to give up the exposure they have by being part of a team that runs at the front of the pack, and consisantly produces results. Some of those guys (although better drivers than me I'm sure) DON'T NEED SPONSORS. Derrick Cope is a perfect example. Why in the world he is even allowed to have a Nascar license is beyond me. Casey Mears, Foyt, John Andretti, and the list could go on. It SHOULD be hard to get a sponsor on board for some of these guys. I think Nascar is a bunch of good old boys racing the AMERICAN way (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Dale Jr is the MAN! |
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mitchntx Everyone likes a good "Conspiracy Theory" Feb 17 2004, 05:54 PM
Chris 96 WS6 I don't think Mikey would ever go along with s... Feb 17 2004, 05:57 PM trackbird Guess I don't watch enough TV. I didn't se... Feb 17 2004, 05:58 PM Absolut Speed You certainly wonder how long the cycle can go on ... Feb 17 2004, 06:48 PM mitchntx Don't get me wrong, Chris. I didn't mean t... Feb 17 2004, 06:57 PM trackbird I'm sure the sponsors don't mind much.... Feb 17 2004, 06:59 PM AllZWay Yep... I don't think sponsors really care ... Feb 17 2004, 07:24 PM rmackintosh ......well.....I don't put much stock at all i... Feb 17 2004, 07:44 PM Zimm Back when Jordan was running the 7-Up car (I think... Feb 17 2004, 08:12 PM Chris 96 WS6 Fights and things...if you know your NASCAR histor... Feb 17 2004, 08:23 PM felton316 $100,000 investment for a $10 million do... Feb 17 2004, 08:46 PM Chris 96 WS6 There is a marketing firm that spends all week eac... Feb 17 2004, 08:58 PM Chris 96 WS6 Great post Lonnie. Dead on about Cope....wrecks w... Feb 17 2004, 09:21 PM ESPCamaro Yeah, the Cope's 500 win was about a big a flu... Feb 17 2004, 09:28 PM rmackintosh QUOTE Nascar IS american racing.
UNFORTUNATELY...... Feb 17 2004, 09:56 PM Chris 96 WS6 QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Feb 17 2004, 03:56 PM)UN... Feb 17 2004, 10:08 PM trackbird QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Feb 17 2004, 04:56 PM)Di... Feb 17 2004, 10:13 PM ESPCamaro Randy, I'm not trying to argue with you. Just ... Feb 17 2004, 10:16 PM mitchntx One counter point is that the race lasted another ... Feb 17 2004, 10:40 PM rmackintosh QUOTE Randy, I'm not trying to argue with you.... Feb 17 2004, 10:46 PM ESPCamaro I do dislike how some of the up and coming america... Feb 17 2004, 10:52 PM rmackintosh QUOTE But Open wheel just isn't "there... Feb 17 2004, 11:03 PM Chris 96 WS6 Mitch, sorry for getting hung up on the one wreck.... Feb 18 2004, 01:10 AM sgarnett I don't buy wrecking for exposure. It may help... Feb 18 2004, 04:20 AM sgarnett BTW, I heard a great comment from MW about the wre... Feb 18 2004, 04:29 AM Rob Hood I think NAPA and Mikey would stand to gain a LOT m... Feb 18 2004, 04:49 AM AllZWay First Note... I am a Nascar fan and actually fan o... Feb 18 2004, 02:22 PM Bald54 Watching just about any form of racing is kind of ... Feb 18 2004, 03:54 PM mongoosez Adding my .02
Cope should stick to his "hair... Feb 18 2004, 07:36 PM JonV To me NASCAR is just a good opportunity for an aft... Feb 18 2004, 10:32 PM AllZWay JonV a couple of examples to disprove your theory ... Feb 18 2004, 10:45 PM rmackintosh QUOTE JonV a couple of examples to disprove your t... Feb 18 2004, 11:26 PM Zimm QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Feb 18 2004, 05:26 PM)IR... Feb 18 2004, 11:50 PM JonV I don't mean to imply that there are no good r... Feb 19 2004, 12:05 AM rpoz-29 FWIW, I can remember when the "Grand National... Feb 19 2004, 01:01 AM rmackintosh QUOTE This is the shame of NASCAR. Potentially gre... Feb 19 2004, 01:16 AM lateapex QUOTE (AllZWay @ Feb 18 2004, 05:45 PM)Tony S... Feb 19 2004, 03:25 AM AllZWay I would absolutely love to see IROC ran at several... Feb 19 2004, 04:30 AM Rob Hood IROC should expand its series to six races - two s... Feb 19 2004, 06:12 AM sgarnett QUOTE (AllZWay @ Feb 18 2004, 11:30 PM)I guil... Feb 19 2004, 01:34 PM mitchntx Not trying to get this thread back on topic ...
h... Feb 20 2004, 03:10 AM Rob Hood Field is now up to 45 entries as of my posting. h... Feb 20 2004, 04:17 AM AllZWay Mitch... I have been watching the outcome of not e... Feb 20 2004, 03:32 PM rmackintosh ....uh oh.....do I see a chink in the good 'ol... Feb 20 2004, 06:30 PM NataSS Inc Just want to add my .02
I did a short stint in sp... Feb 20 2004, 08:31 PM mitchntx Wind Tunnel with that Despain clown actually made ... Feb 20 2004, 09:51 PM robz71lm7 I usually stay out of these NASCAR good or bad thr... Feb 20 2004, 10:06 PM lateapex QUOTE (mitchntx @ Feb 20 2004, 04:51 PM)He sa... Feb 20 2004, 10:06 PM Rob Hood Boyce, Pepsi probably paid for the "mom and p... Feb 21 2004, 03:05 AM mitchntx Bob, why do you think I described my source as ... Feb 21 2004, 05:32 AM ESPCamaro If you need to hear someone thank the local mom an... Feb 21 2004, 12:36 PM Rob Hood When NASCAR first announced the change in the poin... Feb 21 2004, 04:40 PM robz71lm7 I'm going to disagree Lonnie. I feel NASCAR h... Feb 21 2004, 10:12 PM Chris 96 WS6 Great technical discussion of Nextel Cup motors:
... Feb 23 2004, 08:02 PM AllZWay WOW!!! and not one Nascar bashing post... Feb 23 2004, 08:55 PM rmackintosh QUOTE WOW!!! and not one Nascar bashin... Feb 23 2004, 10:57 PM Rob Hood Nah, that's just your jealousy showing... Feb 24 2004, 02:24 AM rmackintosh Wanna bash NASCRAP some more????
How about Joe Ru... Feb 25 2004, 07:01 PM mitchntx Damn Randy ... how much coffee have you had today? Feb 25 2004, 08:33 PM AllZWay Hey... You can't blame those three guys though... Feb 25 2004, 08:41 PM rmackintosh QUOTE Hey... You can't blame those three guys ... Feb 25 2004, 09:02 PM rmackintosh QUOTE Damn Randy ... how much coffee have you had ... Feb 25 2004, 09:03 PM AllZWay I think Randy has issues that would be best dealt ... Feb 25 2004, 10:15 PM
rmackintosh QUOTE I think Randy has issues that would be best ... Feb 25 2004, 10:18 PM |
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