[robz71lm7]

http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet...amp;docid=27934

The all-new Camaro will begin with early production versions at the end of 2008 and will go on sale in the first quarter of 2009. “The new Camaro will be almost identical to the concept, a thoroughly modern interpretation of the 1969 model, considered by many to be the best design of the car’s first generation,” said Ed Welburn, GM's global vice president of design, who owns a 1969 Camaro SS. The front-engine, rear-wheel-drive sport coupe will feature an independent rear suspension, and will be offered in a variety of models with the choice of manual and automatic transmissions and V-6 and V-8 engines.

I hope it doesn't weigh 4K lbs and come with skinny tires. It sure is ugly as a dog though IMO. I don't think retro shows any creativity at all. I want a new looking car.

[robz71lm7]

Oh it will be a pig to the FRRAX standards. There's no way the car could weigh 3200 lbs and be affordable in the price range it needs to be sold in.

It will be built in either Wilmington DE or Oshawa Ontario. Its down to those two.

As for retro...well yes its decidedly retro themed,but is it a literal interpretation of the '69? No, that's why I posted the pic, so you would see exactly what such a literal interpretation would have looked like. Instead, they decided to take a '69 and go forward with it.

Well when I look up the definition of retro I read "Involving, relating to, or reminiscent of things past; "retrospective" or "A fashion, decor, design, or style reminiscent of things past." To me it is retro and I never said it was a literal interpretation of the older Camaro. The C5 & C6 are both examples of what I want, they show Corvette heritage but are modern. A '99-'04 Mustang is another example. I'd like to see a car that is Camaro without looking so retro and artsy like products the other two American manufacturers are putting out. I guess I need to buy an import.

I appreciate everybody here, but understand you are not a representative sample of the car buying public. The drag racers all want 3200lbs and a 12 bolt rear end, so I'm not just picking on you all....these same conversations are going on across the 'net.

I'm fully aware of that, but I'm still going to complain about where American pony cars are going. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Besides drag racers are (edited out)-so I'm going to ignore any parallels, relevant as they may be, drawn between us and them. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Once it hits the streets in 2.5 yrs then we'll revisit the criticisms and decide which ones are warranted and which ones aren't. I remember a lot of whining and moaning in '96 about the C6 and the firebird nose, fat rear end and absolute hand wringing the motor was going to be a 346 and not exactly 350 cubic inches. 10 yrs later, does anybody really care?

Personally I loved the '98+ cars the first time I saw them as well as the C5 in '97. I was never concerned with the displacement of the LS1, nor did I criticize it then. I also like the GTO.

I like the car if I ignore the front and rear-I just think it could use some tweaks. I could live with 37-3800 lbs myself. Although I swear there are some people that are such diehard GM leghumpers it's sickening. I'm not referring to you or anyone in this thread.