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post Sep 23 2006, 08:15 PM
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I can never seem to decide which way I want to go in my automotive travels. I enjoy my 2002 and it's a great car, quick, handles well, etc. I don't really want to run it at track events as a daily driver. I've been considering a 3rd gen for a long time now and I have some options.

I have a car lined up in VA that I can go pick up. It's an '83 chassis (not the best year), an automatic, a hard top and has no engine in it. However, the price is "right".

I have a local friend who's car I could buy. It's not CMC legal and it's not enough motor for AIX (though I might run ok in AI). Considerably more money, but a nicer car.

I've been looking at the specials on trucks lately (Dodge is way overstocked on inventory and they may be giving them away soon, they have good incentives now) and thinking of "de-modding" my car and trading it in. I'll keep what I can use and sell off the rest of my parts towards the new car (being a 3rd gen, only the rear suspension stuff will swap). The real concern is, can I get rid of enough of the parts from the current car? And, will I be sorry for getting rid of the 2002?
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post Sep 24 2006, 05:59 AM
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Well...I guess I'll mud up the waters some more...
<steps up on soapbox>

Purpose built car. Say it with me. Purpose built car. Yes. Nice.

Do you want a race car or a car that is raced? Huge difference. Long term what do you want? A car that you can track hard and not worry about? A car that you can find inexpensive parts for? A car that was designed to go 100% for hundreds of laps and will wear you out before you can wear it out. Yes...purpose built car.

Cooling issues, hub issues, brake issues, PITA to work on, blah blah blah. I've raced production based cars in everything from circle track to IT to AS, rally, and of course autocross/hpde/etc. I've raced purpose built cars in roadracing and circle track. There is no comparison. A 'car that is raced' or a race car.

The best places to find them are asphalt circle track 'late models'. Obviously make sure it is a symmetrical car and not an 'offset' chassis. Finding 'rollers' is not too hard and can frequently be found for less than 5k. Slip in an LS1 with an ASA PCM and you never have to mess with carbs and timing issues and it will start every time. Or run a cheap 355 that you can put 400rwhp out of. Weights can be down as low as 2400lbs and wheels/tires are wide open.

Parts: Stupid cheap. Lefthander, Stock Car Products, Coleman, Smileys, and tons of others.

Nowhere that I know of can you go fast for as cheap for so long. The car will wear you out long before you can wear it out. 400rwhp and 2400lbs on 10" wide tires. What hpde car can match that performance anywhere near that price, much less durability.

Just food for thought.

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trackbird   Ok, I'm back thinking of a track car   Sep 23 2006, 08:15 PM
KeithO   I don't understand why you can't use your ...   Sep 23 2006, 08:21 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (KeithO @ Sep 23 2006, 04:21 PM) I ...   Sep 23 2006, 08:43 PM
firehawkclone   I would stick with the 02 Kevin, it isn't ...   Sep 23 2006, 09:10 PM
trackbird   Hmm.... I'm not sure I want to wheel to wheel ...   Sep 23 2006, 09:35 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 23 2006, 04:35 PM)...   Sep 24 2006, 11:51 AM
Rob Hood   I was at the same crossroads Kevin, but I'm go...   Sep 23 2006, 10:30 PM
marka   Howdy, What's your goal? Do you want to race...   Sep 23 2006, 10:54 PM
AndyJ   Kevin, I've got an '85 Z stripper with a ...   Sep 24 2006, 12:45 AM
trackbird   If I stay 4th gen, it would be another LS1 car. Wo...   Sep 24 2006, 02:44 AM
AndyJ   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 23 2006, 09:44 PM)...   Sep 24 2006, 03:10 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (AndyJ @ Sep 23 2006, 11:10 PM) QUO...   Sep 24 2006, 03:17 AM
Ojustracing   Kevin you just need another 4th gen in the drivewa...   Sep 24 2006, 02:56 AM
rmackintosh   ...buying a pre built car is ALWAYS cheaper and ea...   Sep 24 2006, 03:54 AM
Shortcutsleeping   Well...I guess I'll mud up the waters some mor...   Sep 24 2006, 05:59 AM
Stang Killer   Personally, I would stick with the LS1 car. They m...   Sep 24 2006, 08:48 AM
trackbird   Alan, I converted my '89 Formula from daily dr...   Sep 24 2006, 12:39 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 24 2006, 07:39 AM)...   Sep 25 2006, 01:23 AM
Shortcutsleeping   If you aren't going to go race car then I...   Sep 24 2006, 02:25 PM
Ojustracing   Hey kevin heres a car for you. ebay Hey check ou...   Sep 24 2006, 04:27 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Ojustracing @ Sep 24 2006, 12:27 P...   Sep 24 2006, 09:22 PM
CMC #37   Since CMC-S was announced many are foaming over th...   Sep 24 2006, 05:00 PM
Ojustracing   don't forget it doesnt have a Brake fluid cap,...   Sep 24 2006, 11:33 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Ojustracing @ Sep 24 2006, 07:33 P...   Sep 25 2006, 12:43 AM
Rob Hood   QUOTE Ojustracing Posted Today, 04:33 PM don...   Sep 25 2006, 12:54 AM
92Voodoo   Noticed your post and as usual I feel the need to ...   Oct 22 2006, 04:41 PM
trackbird   Damn, Bill brings the logic.....again. For those ...   Oct 22 2006, 05:50 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (trackbird @ Oct 22 2006, 01...   Oct 23 2006, 12:19 AM
trackbird   Nah, I'd probably de-mod it and then ditch the...   Oct 23 2006, 01:17 AM
92Voodoo   Well some one had to. As I'm caged up here i...   Oct 28 2006, 12:54 PM
tom97ss   Here you go kev, $5500. http://www.t-bone...   Oct 28 2006, 10:03 PM
CMC #37   QUOTE (tom97ss @ Oct 28 2006, 05:03 PM) H...   Oct 28 2006, 10:05 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Oct 28 2006, 06:05 PM) D...   Oct 29 2006, 01:51 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (trackbird @ Oct 28 2006, 08:51 PM)...   Oct 29 2006, 02:01 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (tom97ss @ Oct 28 2006, 04:03 PM) I...   Oct 30 2006, 12:23 AM
CMC #37   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Oct 29 2006, 07:23 PM) ...   Oct 30 2006, 01:54 AM
tom97ss   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Oct 29 2006, 06:54 PM) Q...   Oct 31 2006, 05:24 AM
Blainefab   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Oct 29 2006, 07:23 PM) ...   Oct 31 2006, 09:49 AM
tom97ss   It says Wheel 2 Wheel did the cage, the've don...   Oct 29 2006, 02:26 AM

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