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bubba353z
post Sep 4 2006, 11:01 PM
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My loss – your gain…..

I’ve got a 92 Z-28 that I have lost interest in, and want out of my life (and garage). It would be a great track car / autocross car, with a little work. Here are the highlights:

92 Z-28 Hardtop Car – 135k on the odo. The paint (teal) is shot, but there is no rust on the car. Glastek Fiberglass Cowl hood (bolt on). Expected dents and dings, but no major bodywork needed.

Engine .020 over 350 – 10.6 – 1 CR, Splayed main caps, steel crank and rods, KB pistons, Aluminum L98 heads, CC-305 cam and SS roller rockers. Holley Stealth Ram intake w/ 52 mm TB, SLP Headers and Cat-back (no cats) Exhaust. I bought the long block from Trackbird, so if there are any questions I can’t answer – he can. (less than 1,500 miles – maybe less than 1,000 – can’t remember the odo when it went in)

T-56 Conversion – Centerforce DF clutch, Pro 5.0 shifter, Spohn Crossmember and TA. (not sure of the total miles, but the gearbox was gone through before installation by Dan Popp of McClusky Chevrolet in Cincinnati)

Rebuilt rearend – 3.73 Motive Gears, Eaton Posi, Moser Axles, Summit Aluminum Cover, Ratech install parts w/ solid pinion spacer (less than 200 miles)

Chassis – Spohn subframe connectors (weld in), Eibach springs, KYB shocks, all new steering parts from spindle to spindle (except Pitman arm)

The engine needs tuned for the cam / intake – I have a number of items from Craig Moates that will be available separately to whoever buys the car. Some of the additional items available are:

Laptop w/ scanning, emulator, and prom burning tools
New C4-HD front brake setup from Ed Miller
Corbeau Seats and brackets (almost new – still in box)
Adjustable LCA’s and Panhard rod – needs new rod ends.
1LE – a/c delete boxes (2) and air pump replacement pulley

I figure I’ve got over $15k into the car plus however many hours (way too many). I’m going to ask $7k OBO for the car (only) and see where that gets me. I’m not going to part out the car of sell any of the extra parts until the car is sold. If anyone has any interest, please PM me or e-mail me at mhalter@columbus.rr.com .

Thanks,

Mike
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post Oct 18 2006, 09:57 PM
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Jeff, you're really right about that. I built the engine (had a machine shop do the work, but I selected the parts for it) and it's a splayed main cap motor, ZZ3 steel crank, balanced, torque plate honed, deck plugs, 0 decked, etc (I could go on). It was thoroughly and properly done and built from a sub 5k mile "warranty motor" block (tossed the rest) from GM (piston slap). So, it was seasoned, but not even dirty yet.
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post Oct 18 2006, 10:16 PM
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Jeff, you're really right about that. I built the engine (had a machine shop do the work, but I selected the parts for it) and it's a splayed main cap motor, ZZ3 steel crank, balanced, torque plate honed, deck plugs, 0 decked, etc (I could go on). It was thoroughly and properly done and built from a sub 5k mile "warranty motor" block (tossed the rest) from GM (piston slap). So, it was seasoned, but not even dirty yet.


With the current setup and a proper tune, what kind of power would you expect from it?
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post Oct 18 2006, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE (trackbird @ Oct 18 2006, 04:57 PM) *

Jeff, you're really right about that. I built the engine (had a machine shop do the work, but I selected the parts for it) and it's a splayed main cap motor, ZZ3 steel crank, balanced, torque plate honed, deck plugs, 0 decked, etc (I could go on). It was thoroughly and properly done and built from a sub 5k mile "warranty motor" block (tossed the rest) from GM (piston slap). So, it was seasoned, but not even dirty yet.


With the current setup and a proper tune, what kind of power would you expect from it?


It's probably limited by the heads flow potential (ZZ3/ZZ4 heads with Manley race flow valves, skim cut to make sure they were true and 3 angle valve job, etc) to something in the mid to upper 300 (375-ish?) hp. I might be surprised and it may do that at the wheels, but I'd rather guess low. It's truly at 10.6:1 (12cc dished piston, 0 decked, 58cc combustion chamber, that actually seem to measure closer to 56 in real life, then skim cut, it might be a bit over 10.6:1) and the cam is a 220/230 .525 (Crane Compu Cam, those are the specs as I remember, he bought that cam, I was going to use a "street roller" solid roller, but a real small one in it).

The heads (stock) flow about 208 cfm at .600 and about 200 cfm at .500 (as I remember), I put undercut valves in these which should help low lift (area under the curve) and max lift to some extent. I'm not expecting "big things", but it helps. So, you'll be head limited, but with a decent cam (such as what's in it) and that intake, it has potential to make power. It has K-motion K750 (as I remember) springs in it, I think he put Comp Pro Magnum roller rockers on it, ARP main studs, Lunati Street Race rods, Clevite bearings, a Street Damper, all ARP hardware, etc. It was built as a nice street motor that could play at the track. It should live a long and healty life at 400-450 hp, maybe a bit more.
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bubba353z   3rd Gen Race Car Starter Kit   Sep 4 2006, 11:01 PM
slowTA   I think this one has Kevin's name all over it....   Sep 5 2006, 12:27 AM
trackbird   Half of it was mine (engine, sway bars and I forge...   Sep 5 2006, 01:01 AM
bubba353z   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 4 2006, 07:01 PM) ...   Sep 5 2006, 01:31 AM
trackbird   35/25, it's a Suspension Techniques kit.   Sep 5 2006, 02:11 AM
bubba353z   Price cut - $6,500 OBO   Sep 13 2006, 12:19 AM
CMC #37   Interested in the Corbeau seats and brackets, pix?   Sep 13 2006, 01:13 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Sep 12 2006, 09:13 PM) I...   Sep 13 2006, 03:49 AM
bubba353z   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 12 2006, 09:49 PM)...   Sep 13 2006, 04:16 PM
slowTA   I'm still interested in one of the AC delete b...   Sep 13 2006, 01:35 AM
bubba353z   I'm not going to sell any of the parts until t...   Sep 13 2006, 02:00 AM
CMC #37   Thanks Kev, looking for a set for my '91 Formu...   Sep 13 2006, 05:23 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Sep 13 2006, 01:23 AM) T...   Sep 13 2006, 04:28 PM
CMC #37   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 13 2006, 11:28 AM)...   Sep 13 2006, 06:20 PM
bubba353z   I fear that the car may be worth more as parts, th...   Sep 13 2006, 04:39 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (bubba353z @ Sep 13 2006, 12:39 PM)...   Sep 13 2006, 05:18 PM
slowTA   Any word on the parts for sale? I'm still int...   Oct 16 2006, 12:10 AM
bubba353z   QUOTE (slowTA @ Oct 15 2006, 06:10 PM) An...   Oct 16 2006, 12:15 AM
jeffburch   This is a perfect project for an American Iron car...   Oct 18 2006, 09:04 PM
trackbird   Jeff, you're really right about that. I built ...   Oct 18 2006, 09:57 PM
Mojave   QUOTE (trackbird @ Oct 18 2006, 04:57 PM)...   Oct 18 2006, 10:16 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Mojave @ Oct 18 2006, 06:16 PM) QU...   Oct 18 2006, 11:04 PM
bubba353z   Offers / Late model trades???   Nov 26 2006, 08:58 PM
FASTFATBOY   What suspension work does this car have? DOes it r...   Dec 12 2006, 02:44 AM
bubba353z   QUOTE (FASTFATBOY @ Dec 11 2006, 09:44 PM...   Dec 12 2006, 05:32 PM
FASTFATBOY   QUOTE (bubba353z @ Dec 12 2006, 05:32 PM)...   Dec 13 2006, 01:32 AM
bubba353z   QUOTE (FASTFATBOY @ Dec 12 2006, 08:32 PM...   Dec 13 2006, 02:32 AM
CrazyHawaiian   Good luck with the sale. The motor in there sounds...   Dec 13 2006, 08:09 AM
bubba353z   Still Available....   Jan 7 2007, 04:23 AM
slowTA   So now that Kevin claims the car as his, does this...   Mar 28 2007, 01:29 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (slowTA @ Mar 27 2007, 09:29 PM) So...   Mar 28 2007, 01:35 AM
bubba353z   Kevin gets first shot at the parts. Anything that ...   Mar 28 2007, 10:51 PM
FASTFATBOY   QUOTE (bubba353z @ Mar 28 2007, 10:51 PM)...   May 18 2007, 01:51 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (FASTFATBOY @ May 17 2007, 09:51 PM...   May 18 2007, 03:50 AM
FASTFATBOY   QUOTE (trackbird @ May 18 2007, 03:50 AM)...   May 18 2007, 11:30 AM
bubba353z   QUOTE (trackbird @ May 17 2007, 09:50 PM)...   May 18 2007, 06:25 PM
CMC #37   e-mail sent about the Corbeau seats if they are st...   May 18 2007, 04:57 PM
trackbird   Julie, I'm sure they are still around and I...   May 18 2007, 05:57 PM
CMC #37   QUOTE (trackbird @ May 18 2007, 12:57 PM)...   May 18 2007, 06:01 PM
trackbird   David? His name is Mike. They are Corbeau TRS wide...   May 18 2007, 06:05 PM
bubba353z   Julie - PM sent   May 24 2007, 01:48 AM
CMC #37   QUOTE (bubba353z @ May 23 2007, 08:48 PM)...   May 24 2007, 02:08 AM
trackbird   I'm passing on the seats, but I did write a ch...   May 24 2007, 03:45 AM
AndyJ   QUOTE (trackbird @ May 23 2007, 10:45 PM)...   May 24 2007, 04:01 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (AndyJ @ May 24 2007, 12:01 AM) QUO...   May 24 2007, 12:00 PM
MikeP-99Z   Congrats on the new purchase !!   May 26 2007, 12:11 AM

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