Pictures from NASA Nationals Options

[axoid]

Friday Pics,

http://www.incom-racing.com/images/gallery...art1/index.html
http://www.incom-racing.com/images/gallery...art2/index.html

[killer_bluebird]

Nice! here are some of mine.
http://picasaweb.google.com/KillerBluebird...AtMidOhioFriday

[rmackintosh]

So who has bragging rights so far????

Come on.....give the info....

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[KeithO]

http://drivenasa.com/liveresults/liveresult.php

[GlennCMC70]

the Champ race tomorrow is a 3 way tie for 1-3 of 3 of our very own FRRAX members! positions 1-3 will have to be determined by best lap.

[Pony Exp.305]

http://drivenasa.com/liveresults/liveresult.php

Nice live results and video. I enjoy to see it..

[vanwyk4257]

Guys, I was at Nationals, unfortunately I was really busy during the day helping to crew for my friends GTS car (the #15 GTS4 Porsche 911 in the pics up top). I watched you guys run as much as I could but didn't have time to stop by the paddock until evening, and you weren't around. I will have to download pics tomorrow evening and email them to one of you to post. I look forward to meeting some of you next year hopefully. It was definitely some great action in CMC and AI!

This post has been edited by vanwyk4257: Sep 17 2007, 12:38 AM

[killer_bluebird]

Here are mine from Sunday. I had a blast. Great meeting y'all.
http://picasaweb.google.com/KillerBluebird...AtMidOhioSunday

[axoid]

Saturday
Sunday Page1
Sunday Page2

[killer_bluebird]

^^^ Very Nice!!!

This post has been edited by killer_bluebird: Sep 17 2007, 03:34 PM

[nape]

Damn, it even looks good in pictures! Any chance someone got a shot of it after the wreck? I'm damn impressed with the repairs. I'm proud to be a part of that repair job.

(IMG:http://www.incom-racing.com/images/gallery/NasaMidOhio09162007Part1/images/dsc_0268.jpg)

PS- Thanks for the pics, Bill!

This post has been edited by nape: Sep 18 2007, 03:00 AM

[trackbird]

I wish I'd known, I'd have come over and swung hammers and wrenches on it with you guys. I heard it was a hard hit and the guys were saying "I think Sydney will be shopping for a new chassis", so I assumed it was a write off (and since I hadn't seen it in person, that's what I went on). It looked good on track after you guys hammered it back out.

[nape]

I wish I'd known, I'd have come over and swung hammers and wrenches on it with you guys. I heard it was a hard hit and the guys were saying "I think Sydney will be shopping for a new chassis", so I assumed it was a write off (and since I hadn't seen it in person, that's what I went on). It looked good on track after you guys hammered it back out.

Not a new chassis, but it needs some work. It's amazing what you can do with a little white and yellow duct tape and a porta-power.

Man! I'm still psych'd! Too bad racing season is almost over (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[JKnight]

When did you wreck? Christine retired with a few laps to go (5?), and the lap before she retired she was 16 seconds behind you, so you must have had issues quite late in the race.

There are so many frrax.com folks that I wish we had known to say hey to. We would have made that time (since time was pretty short during the week).

Jason <-- Still on eastern time

I wish I'd known, I'd have come over and swung hammers and wrenches on it with you guys. I heard it was a hard hit and the guys were saying "I think Sydney will be shopping for a new chassis", so I assumed it was a write off (and since I hadn't seen it in person, that's what I went on). It looked good on track after you guys hammered it back out.

Not a new chassis, but it needs some work. It's amazing what you can do with a little white and yellow duct tape and a porta-power.

Man! I'm still psych'd! Too bad racing season is almost over (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[sgarnett]

Jason, could you post some detail photos of the bracket failure when you feel like looking at it?

[trackbird]

Jason, could you post some detail photos of the bracket failure when you feel like looking at it?

Post 26 (my observations after looking at it)

http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?sho...20&start=20

[sgarnett]

Reading your description is what concerned me enough to ask for more. Was there any deformation of the stock bracket, or did the extension just come off? Is the upper PHR brace still stock? Was there a bolt and spacer through what was formerly the bottom hole of the stock bracket? Was the bracket fully welded all the way around the perimeter? Was there just not enough weld penetration? I keep kicking around thoughts of trying to improve on the stock upper brace with something that connects to the bottom stock hole or maybe both.

This post has been edited by sgarnett: Sep 18 2007, 02:11 PM

[Unbalanced Engin...]

Hey Sean,

One thing that is a MUST with the brackets is to be sure that the upper PHR brace bolt is tight. Mine loosened up on the '96 and when I started getting unexpected tire rub with the 315's I investigated. The once the upper bolt was tight, the rub went away again. I'm certain that the bracket would have failed with the amount of movement I was getting.

This is not to say that Christine's failure was caused by something similar (especially since Jason had been checking that bolt), just something to check frequently.

I looked at Christine's bracket earlier this year, due to an earlier failure. It appeared to me that the initial weld wasn't all that it should have been. I've seen two other brackets fail due to poor welds and once the first failure occurs, you really have to brace the area to ensure that the failure doesn't re-occur.

The timing was a total bummer for Christine (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Jason S.

This post has been edited by Unbalanced Engineering: Sep 18 2007, 03:04 PM

[trackbird]

Reading your description is what concerned me enough to ask for more. Was there any deformation of the stock bracket, or did the extension just come off? Is the upper PHR brace still stock? Was there a bolt and spacer through what was formerly the bottom hole of the stock bracket? Was the bracket fully welded all the way around the perimeter? Was there just not enough weld penetration? I keep kicking around thoughts of trying to improve on the stock upper brace with something that connects to the bottom stock hole or maybe both.

I didn't get a good look at the back side of the weld (axle side). When I really took a closer look, it was on the second level of a car hauler and the tail was hanging off the back (Mitch and I were standing under it). It appears that the sheetmetal tore at the dog-leg (where it kinks down to the vertical section). I'm guessing it will need to be plated on both sides, permiter welded and rosetted in a few other locations to make it solid. I'm sure this failure was caused by the first failure, and I have no way of knowing what exactly caused the first failure. So, I'm not much help there.

As I remember, the upper PHB brace is a stock part.

[nape]

When did you wreck? Christine retired with a few laps to go (5?), and the lap before she retired she was 16 seconds behind you, so you must have had issues quite late in the race.

There are so many frrax.com folks that I wish we had known to say hey to. We would have made that time (since time was pretty short during the week).

Jason <-- Still on eastern time

A brake line blew on the last lap of Sat's qualifying race, IIRC. It could've been way worse, so we got lucky. Sidney is the driver, I'm just the crew. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Here's some pics I found of the before:

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(IMG:http://www.finishlineprod.net/2007_events/11_nationals/group_b/group_b_sat_race/IMG_4120.JPG)

After:

(IMG:http://www.finishlineprod.net/2007_events/11_nationals/group_b/group_b_sun_race/IMG_5365.JPG)