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post Jul 16 2008, 07:48 PM
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To the Many Friends of Camaro:

We know it seems to many of you this day would never arrive, but on Monday, July 21, 2008, at 4:00 PM, EDT, Ed Peper, Chevrolet’s General Manager, and Ed Welburn, GM’s Director of Design, will unveil the details of the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro. This unveil will be the first step in answering the many questions (or should we say confirming the many rumors) surrounding the new Camaro.

Due to many factors, we are not able to extend an invitation to the entire Camaro community to join us in person for the dual, simultaneous unveilings that will take place in Warren, MI, and Los Angeles, CA.

We understand many of you may be disappointed not being able to see the car “in the flesh” that day (and therefore give you a reason to meet us at Indy in September); therefore, we are arranging a live webcast of the Warren unveiling on the GM Next website.

On Monday, July 21, just before 4:00 PM, EDT, go to http://camaro.gmnext.com and click on the "Camaro webcast" link at the top of the page (the Camaro link goes live July 17) to tune in the unveiling. If you cannot watch the webcast live, no worries, an archive of the broadcast will be available on GMNext.com and Chevy.com/Camaro.

Speaking of Chevy.com/Camaro, the next evolution of the site will also debut late Monday afternoon. The next evolution will include images of the production model, exclusive production animation, and a downloadable PDF file containing specifications on the 2010 Camaro. After the webcast, come on over and see the changes for yourself.

If all your questions are not answered during the reveal, a web-chat on the 2010 Camaro will take place the next day (Tuesday, July 22) at GMNext.com. The chat will start at 9:30 AM, EDT, and will feature experts from Chevrolet Marketing, Design and Engineering.

Since Camaro’s production announcement in August 2006, many people throughout GM have been passionately developing a car worthy of its heritage that features beautiful styling, segment-leading performance, excellent fuel economy and advanced technology. Quite honestly, we can't wait to show you all the work on Monday.

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(Cheryl Pilcher; John Fitzpatrick & Scott Settlemire)
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post Jul 16 2008, 08:28 PM
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Thanks, Art. (setting reminder in Outlook...)
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post Jul 16 2008, 09:09 PM
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That is the second good piece of car related news I've heard today. The other is that we may be regaining access to a road course that was closed a few years ago that also has a great lot for autox. It's even big enough to host a tour. This has been a good day!
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post Jul 16 2008, 11:32 PM
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Can't wait! Been withholding some "classified" info from you guys, will be glad to talk about it soon! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 17 2008, 03:17 AM
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QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Jul 16 2008, 06:32 PM) *
Can't wait! Been withholding some "classified" info from you guys, will be glad to talk about it soon! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


(IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) Looking forward to hearing what you have to say. Hopefully it relates to the work the Performance Division is doing.
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post Jul 17 2008, 09:00 AM
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So who will be the first to send Blaine Fab a body in white? ;-)
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post Jul 19 2008, 01:17 AM
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The embargo was broken:

http://jalopnik.com/398828/production-2010...camaro-revealed

37xx lbs, 416hp. Still not in love with the interior.
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post Jul 19 2008, 01:40 AM
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BTW, I just was gawking at the interior pics and I noticed something. Reverse appears to be next to 1st gear rather than next to 5th. Not a T56???
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post Jul 19 2008, 03:19 AM
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Somebody chose not to honor the embargo and others followed. There's a fair amount of inaccuracy in the specs they published. 4:00 PM EDST, Monday, July 21, is still when the official unveil is.

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post Jul 19 2008, 03:40 AM
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Guess no hidden headlights for the RS option... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif)

And of course, it's a pig too...
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post Jul 19 2008, 05:28 AM
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I think it is good looking (I owned two first gens) and I like the engine/powertrain/IRS. It is way overweight and not aerodynamic enough for my liking, though. If they could have retained that engine/powertrain and kept the weight down to 3000 lbs, I would be impressed. You really can't beat the Cd of a 4th gen, though.
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post Jul 19 2008, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE (Cal @ Jul 18 2008, 11:28 PM) *
I think it is good looking (I owned two first gens) and I like the engine/powertrain/IRS. It is way overweight and not aerodynamic enough for my liking, though. If they could have retained that engine/powertrain and kept the weight down to 3000 lbs, I would be impressed. You really can't beat the Cd of a 4th gen, though.


Actually, you can beat the Cd of a 4th gen...with a 3rd gen =)
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post Jul 19 2008, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE (poSSum @ Jul 18 2008, 09:19 PM) *
Somebody chose not to honor the embargo and others followed. There's a fair amount of inaccuracy in the specs they published. 4:00 PM EDST, Monday, July 21, is still when the official unveil is.


I was thinking that was the case. I'm still looking forward to seeing the official unveil on Monday!
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post Jul 19 2008, 03:24 PM
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Howdy,

I like the looks. The interior looks kinda dorky in pictures, but maybe its better in person?

Wanting lower weight & I expect better fuel economy (and 87 octane gas).

But... I don't imagine I'm really the target market anymore, since the other thing I'd like would be a decent backseat & four doors... :-)

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post Jul 19 2008, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (marka @ Jul 19 2008, 10:24 AM) *
But... I don't imagine I'm really the target market anymore, since the other thing I'd like would be a decent backseat & four doors... :-)

Mark


You're the target market for the G8.
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post Jul 19 2008, 04:47 PM
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Howdy,

QUOTE (poSSum @ Jul 19 2008, 12:28 PM) *
QUOTE (marka @ Jul 19 2008, 10:24 AM) *
But... I don't imagine I'm really the target market anymore, since the other thing I'd like would be a decent backseat & four doors... :-)

Mark


You're the target market for the G8.


What's that weigh, 5k lbs?

I'm the target market for a Mazda5.

:-)

Mark
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post Jul 19 2008, 05:37 PM
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5K lbs (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif)

G8 GT 4020 lbs as per Car & Driver

G8 GXP 4050lbs as per Motor Trend (GM numbers)


As to the new Camaro....yeah...I'll totally pass on that.
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post Jul 20 2008, 02:35 PM
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per big Enos "Actually, you can beat the Cd of a 4th gen...with a 3rd gen =)
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I like that quote. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif)

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post Jul 21 2008, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jul 19 2008, 05:56 AM) *
QUOTE (Cal @ Jul 18 2008, 11:28 PM) *
I think it is good looking (I owned two first gens) and I like the engine/powertrain/IRS. It is way overweight and not aerodynamic enough for my liking, though. If they could have retained that engine/powertrain and kept the weight down to 3000 lbs, I would be impressed. You really can't beat the Cd of a 4th gen, though.


Actually, you can beat the Cd of a 4th gen...with a 3rd gen =)

Actually, you wouldn't think so by looking at them, but that is true! I didn't think many people knew that. The difference is quite small, though. The worlds fastest stock-bodied door slammer Land Speed record is just over 300 mph with a 3rd gen Firebird.
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post Jul 21 2008, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Jul 16 2008, 05:32 PM) *
Can't wait! Been withholding some "classified" info from you guys, will be glad to talk about it soon! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



Well, the GM site has the spec sheet up. So lets here the cool stuff. I have to admit from the info on the spec sheets, I'm left wanting. The available 18" wheels are only 7.5 " wide and the stupid size 20" are only 9" wide. The manual SS weighs in at 3860#! I wanted to see something like 18x10's all around. The car looks to be a few inches shorter than a 4th gen with about 10 more inches of wheel base, no more giant overhangs. It's acouple inches taller and a couple inches narrower than a 4th gen as well. The weight distribution looks good and the power is certainly looking good (9.1 pounds per HP in the SS).

With the narrow wheels and the curb weight, I don't see this car being competitive with the Shelby in FS. Maybe there is a 1LE or a Z28 in the works as well that will strip some of the dead weight and give some usable wheels.

Oddly enough, they are touting the gas mileage, but it's not even as good as the 4th gens? I was expecting 30+ on the hwy the way they were talking.

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