BlaineFab steering column package, Momo / Woodward for the 4th gen Options

[mitchntx]

i submitted a request for this to be CMC legal.

You can claim that a loose tilt column is a safety hazard (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

LOL ... when I stripped the housing off my column, little did I realize that the plastic collar around the tilt joint was also the retainer for the pin that keeps the steering shaft in one piece. That last lap was "interesting"...

[Blainefab]

Yes, I did check, the ball on the firewall mount has a lot of angularity, enough for the stock angle.

I did not want to doubt you, the angles must have been different on mine, due to the upper mount placement.

Welp, I had humble pie with my crow tonite. I must have checked the angle with the rear set, shallow angle car, 'cause I double checked the stock column angle and you are right, my mount did not have the angularity needed (122 degrees from firewall). I whipped up a new one, with 124 degrees, and it will be overnited to my test pilot tomorrow.

pics updated

Thanks for keeping an eye on me!

[CMC#5]

Appreciate the help on cleaning up that rule Alan. As you guessed it was all around underhood wear items, not firewall back, essentially.

[rmackintosh]

Yes, I did check, the ball on the firewall mount has a lot of angularity, enough for the stock angle.

I did not want to doubt you, the angles must have been different on mine, due to the upper mount placement.

Welp, I had humble pie with my crow tonite. I must have checked the angle with the rear set, shallow angle car, 'cause I double checked the stock column angle and you are right, my mount did not have the angularity needed (122 degrees from firewall). I whipped up a new one, with 124 degrees, and it will be overnited to my test pilot tomorrow.

pics updated

Thanks for keeping an eye on me!

Nice work Alan!

I was gonna comment that I could NOT get my firewall bearing to get to a proper angle like you were saying, but figured your bearing must be a bit different (even though it looked the same) or your set up somehow allowed for it.

My solution is very similar to yours although I cut up the stock column to make that piece....not out of spiffy aluminum like you did!
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[roadracetransam]

My solution is very similar to yours although I cut up the stock column to make that piece....not out of spiffy aluminum like you did!
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We keep coming up with the same solutions. Either you are spying my garage or I am spying yours. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Doug Phillips]

Sort of on topic, I have a 85 IROC with a tilt column and stock wheel. Rule change for 2009 required the steering locks to be disabled or removed.

What is involved in doing this on the stock steering column?

I may install a removable wheel at the same time to make it easier to get in and out of the car. Never should have sold my MOD 78 wheel from the Miata!!

[Blainefab]

Sort of on topic, I have a 85 IROC with a tilt column and stock wheel. Rule change for 2009 required the steering locks to be disabled or removed.

What is involved in doing this on the stock steering column?

I may install a removable wheel at the same time to make it easier to get in and out of the car. Never should have sold my MOD 78 wheel from the Miata!!

Remove the steering wheel, remove a circlip that retains the lock ring, pull the lock ring out and cut/grind the teeth off, and then reinstall the lock ring and circlip.

I have a bolt on quick disconnect available at a reasonable price: $90

Pricing on the Momo Model 78 is now $190

[Doug Phillips]

Sort of on topic, I have a 85 IROC with a tilt column and stock wheel. Rule change for 2009 required the steering locks to be disabled or removed.

What is involved in doing this on the stock steering column?

I may install a removable wheel at the same time to make it easier to get in and out of the car. Never should have sold my MOD 78 wheel from the Miata!!

Remove the steering wheel, remove a circlip that retains the lock ring, pull the lock ring out and cut/grind the teeth off, and then reinstall the lock ring and circlip.

I have a bolt on quick disconnect available at a reasonable price: $90

Pricing on the Momo Model 78 is now $190

When you unbolt the wheel does the whole tilt mechanism come off?

Do you have bolt on and weld on quick disconnects? Does this replace the tilt mechanism? I nuserstand some quick disconnects get sloppy over time. Is this true? What brand do you supply? If I wanted the Momo wheel to end up in approximately the same position as the stock wheel will I need an spacer?

[Blainefab]

Sort of on topic, I have a 85 IROC with a tilt column and stock wheel. Rule change for 2009 required the steering locks to be disabled or removed.

What is involved in doing this on the stock steering column?

I may install a removable wheel at the same time to make it easier to get in and out of the car. Never should have sold my MOD 78 wheel from the Miata!!

Remove the steering wheel, remove a circlip that retains the lock ring, pull the lock ring out and cut/grind the teeth off, and then reinstall the lock ring and circlip.

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Pricing on the Momo Model 78 is now $230

When you unbolt the wheel does the whole tilt mechanism come off?

Do you have bolt on and weld on quick disconnects? Does this replace the tilt mechanism? I nuserstand some quick disconnects get sloppy over time. Is this true? What brand do you supply? If I wanted the Momo wheel to end up in approximately the same position as the stock wheel will I need an spacer?

Doug - no, the tilt mechanism is deeper in the column - you have to get past the turn signal mechanism, lock and ign switch to get there.

I don't sell or recommend weld on QD's - it is a critical weld, and is likely to damage the plastic parts, and eliminates any possibility of future maintenance.

I sell a Schroeder QD, it is identical to the Grant 3001 w/o SFI sticker, has internal splines that match the column so is a bolt on. $140 for the Schroeder or Grant. I have been installing the Grant unit for about 6years, not aware of any that have worn excessively. I recommend a light oil on the splines for lubrication and corrosion resistance.

Tilt mechanism is not replaced by the QD

With the stock column, Schroeder QD, 1/2" 3bolt to 6bolt adapter and a Momo wheel, the wheel position will be slightly forward of stock (I'll get a number) . I can supply spacers that position the wheel up to 1.5" further rearwards.

This post has been edited by Blainefab: Nov 28 2014, 09:24 AM