STANG KILLA SS goes "racin" Options

[Shortcutsleeping]

You're making me want one of these (not that I didn't already).

Yes. This.


Costas
cars and such...

[STANG KILLA SS]

thanks everyone for the kind comments and following the thread

brake cooling time!
I started with Lambert/Quantum Fog light ducts and some race mesh
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added a slim aluminum cobb LED DRL light to replace the fogs and add some style. i just wired them to the factory fog light plugs.
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ducts and mesh in
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lights test
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surprisingly bright
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bumper/splitter re-enforcement installed
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ducts on fog ducts, and grill misc stuff reinstalled
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factory under bumper duct inlet, i cut off the tube 1" inside of the wheel well (inside bumper)
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and here it is with the fog light ducts connected to the factory wheel well duct with the wheel well pulled back. the silver line is where the wheel well intersects the hard duct.
you can also see the LEDs wired to the fog plug and the factory opening for the brake duct now disconnected.
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after 4-5 test fits the bumper is back on finally!

[STANG KILLA SS]

next was time to install the spindle ducts.
first i had to remove the wheel speed sensor and cut off the bracket.
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bracket dremeled off
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upgraded the factory padlets to 1 piece hawks. had great luck with these on the camaro on track.
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Lambert/Quantum competition spindle ducts installed. kit also came with the peices to fully enclose 360 degrees, but i chose to leave those off. also came with tie rod heat shields. left those off too.
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factory plastic wheel well duct connected to the spindle duct. keep in mind the suspension is at full droop here. the two line up pretty close when at ride height.
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rotor and caliper reinstalled. pic from the back side. seals against the rotor hub pretty good.
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wheel clearance at ride height. TONS o room. at least an inch everywhere. way better than i ever had in the camaro.
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finished pics coming soon!

[STANG KILLA SS]

finally got some finished pics!

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[rocky]

Damn she looks good!

[trackbird]

That's wicked. Well done!

[BumpaD_Z28]

WOW ! Nice work (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Those light are super bright ! do you have a link to them ?

[STANG KILLA SS]

thanks guys!

i deleted the link yesterday, but these appear to be them http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-20cm-Car-Auot-L...CDC&vxp=mtr

[Steve91T]

So awesome. I can't wait for the track day videos to start showing up!

[STANG KILLA SS]

assuming the rain holds off my first track day is in 10 days!

[STANG KILLA SS]

Well i finally got the Z06 to the track at TWS

i took it easy in the morning sessions, putting around in 4th and 5th. this meant coming out of the corners at around 2500-3000 rpm

the lack of feel i noticed on the street, sadly continued over on track. no feedback or feeling, and felt like i was on iRacing Sim. the Rival S's also didnt squeal but i probably wasn't at their limit, so i had no audible warning either. i have the square 10.5 X 18 Z06 wheels with 315 Rivals on.
the light weight steering on the street was different on track. it was much heavier, but still no feedback or car feeling.

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even with short shifting at 6k i was hitting 150mph at the end of the front "straight". the camaro did 135. 140 on a perfect lap. it moved around alot at that speed, darting left and right moving half a lane easy and bouncy. not sure it was the alignment, the shocks, or simply the extra speed.
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the lack of body roll and weight transfer was very apparent compared to the camaro. proby some of the lack of knowing what the car was doing feeling.

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in the morning sessions i was running 2:09s running 4th and 5th. in the afternoon sessions i was running 3rd,4th, 5th and was running 2:05s. the camaro average lap time was 2:02s and my fastest lap times were 1:59s. the vette is 400lbs lighter, an extra 100hp and 315 tires vs 285s on the camaro. i thought even in this first shack down the vette might turn a faster lap but not the case. hopefully the lap times will come down once my confidence in the car goes up. i was noticeably rolling out of the throttle early, and rolling back in late in the videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKwsTJEfMqg

[STANG KILLA SS]

unfortunately on the 3rd afternoon session it all came to an end with loud ticking. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) i pulled it into the pits and parked it until the next morning. went to tractor supply and bought a come-a-long and got her loaded on the trailer and headed home. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) by the time i looked down the oil pressure was lower but still good. still in the 30psi range but fluctuating.

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heres the vid from the lap that the ticking happened.
at :44 the ticking starts
at 1:15 it gets worse
at 1:39 i get a misfire and finally hear the ticking....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeuQFm0RPY4

[Steve91T]

Man I'm sorry. That tick sounded pretty ugly. Hopefully it's just a lifter. Any idea what your water and oil temps were?

So here what I think. I think you were comfy with your Fbody and now you are in a very different car requiring some adjustment. I think you'll learn to feel the car again.

Your hand position was driving me nuts. The over use of shuffle steering was a habit that I didn't even know I had until I started filming myself. And even when I thought I fixed it, I was still doing it. Try to keep 9 and 3 as much as possible.

I also think you have a car that far exceeds your capabilities. I mean no disrespect, it probably exceeds the talent of the majority of the people at track days. I never saw you anywhere near the limit. I think you weren't feeling the car because you were so far from the limit. TWS looks like it has some relatively slow corners with tons of run off. Nothing but grass to hit. Why not start getting on the gas earlier and earlier in those corners and see what happens? Same with carrying more speed into the corners?

Hang in there, get that engine healthy again and get back out there. Maybe next time try to find an instructor who really knows cars similar to yours.

[CrashTestDummy]

So, WTF are you running at? Great secret on what part of the world you are in.

[Steve91T]

So, WTF are you running at? Great secret on what part of the world you are in.

Say what? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/gr_confused.gif)

This post has been edited by Steve91T: Mar 25 2017, 02:18 AM

[STANG KILLA SS]

Man I'm sorry. That tick sounded pretty ugly. Hopefully it's just a lifter. Any idea what your water and oil temps were?

So here what I think. I think you were comfy with your Fbody and now you are in a very different car requiring some adjustment. I think you'll learn to feel the car again.

Your hand position was driving me nuts. The over use of shuffle steering was a habit that I didn't even know I had until I started filming myself. And even when I thought I fixed it, I was still doing it. Try to keep 9 and 3 as much as possible.

I also think you have a car that far exceeds your capabilities. I mean no disrespect, it probably exceeds the talent of the majority of the people at track days. I never saw you anywhere near the limit. I think you weren't feeling the car because you were so far from the limit. TWS looks like it has some relatively slow corners with tons of run off. Nothing but grass to hit. Why not start getting on the gas earlier and earlier in those corners and see what happens? Same with carrying more speed into the corners?

Hang in there, get that engine healthy again and get back out there. Maybe next time try to find an instructor who really knows cars similar to yours.

temps were up. i wanna say 225 water, 265 or 285 oil. but im not for sure. ill be honest i wasnt watching and worried like i was in the camaro.
lol my instructor that passed me from blue group to yellow actually mentioned my hands. it comes from when the camaro kept throwing belts before i got the manual/fixed tensioner. i would go into a corner and loose power steering and have a major pucker moment. so i started clocking my hands to have better leverage for when i lost power steering to keep the car on track. never got out of the habit.

theres no doubt the car far exceeds my talents. taking 6 months off certainly didnt help either. average corner speed at TWS is 70-90mph for the infeild.
the reason i was never comfortable driving in hard was i could never feel if the tires were gripping or sliding. i just cant explain that lack of feedback. it really feels like a video game. so i would go into a corner so slow i knew the tires were gripping, and i would wait so long on exit until the car was already straight and rolling inline to start re applying. and of course the lap times and video show that. its embarrassingly bad/slow driving.

i do plan to try to force myself to push more next time. but id be lieing if i said the the financial difference in the two cars wasnt in the back of my mind.

[STANG KILLA SS]

also the gearing on the camaro was PERFECT for tws. i was only doing 1 gear change per lap for the "oval" so the entire infield i would do in 4th with my 4.10s. so i could fully concetrate and maximizing braking and cornering. yet still come out of the corners hard and in the powerband.
with the vette i was having to down shift to 3rd several times per lap and i KNOW it was costing me time. cause i was waiting so carefully fully letting the clutch out as not to upset the car.
ive got alot of relearning and new things to learn for sure with the new car.
i wish gears in a Z06 wasnt a $3000-4000 upgrade (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (you have to put in a base model rear diff to be able to change gear ratios)

[CrashTestDummy]

So, WTF are you running at? Great secret on what part of the world you are in.

Say what? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/gr_confused.gif)

One should not work an incredibly-long week, then come home and enjoy the start of the weekend with way too many 'Ritas, then go perusing web forums!!

I kept viewing those on-track pics of that beautiful car thinking 'Where the heck is that place, it looks familiar?', but couldn't place it. I now realize it's TWS.

[STANG KILLA SS]

Good News!
Tore into the motor starting with the passenger side valve cover and boom, the #1 exhaust rocker bolt was backed out!
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appears to be no other collateral damage other than where the rocker hit the valve cover.
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ended up taking out all 16 rocker bolts and locktighting them and re-torqueing to 22 ft lbs.

[BumpaD_Z28]

AWESOME !!!

This post has been edited by BumpaD_Z28: Apr 1 2017, 03:11 PM