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post Feb 3 2006, 04:46 AM
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http://hpjvids.com/crazycurves/vir121005/v...21005_crash.wmv

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post Feb 3 2006, 05:34 AM
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Am I correct in assuming that's LS1 brake hop at the end cauing him to lose it?
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post Feb 3 2006, 05:34 AM
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Yipes! Looks like the guy in the red car slammed on his brakes for ? and the video guy got rear ended pretty good!
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post Feb 3 2006, 06:24 AM
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.....looks to me like the driver got lulled into thinking he was pretty good by waiting for all the point bys.....now I KNOW why I never went HPDE....that would KILL ME...and when he got behind a "racy" red f-body.....he overcooked it trying to keep up.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Feb 3 2006, 12:21 PM
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I think the red racey car was a turbo RX7

And he was lulled into watching the car's tail lights and not where he was on the track
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post Feb 3 2006, 12:59 PM
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I don't think he got hit, that looked just like a killer dose of brake hop to me. I think he got up on the RX7 (who buried his foot in the brakes for some reason), hammered the brakes, the back hopped, it tried to spin, he tried to catch it and it went around anyway. I've done the same thing several times (though it was while running a fast autocross course) and sometimes you can stand on the clutch and save it (engine braking makes it "tons" worse....not that you guys didn't know that)....and sometimes you can't.....
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post Feb 3 2006, 01:47 PM
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When I eventually get around to putting my racing videos on the 'net I'm also going to edit to only show me passing other cars. Never show me getting passed, and people will think I'm the best driver evAr!!

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post Feb 3 2006, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (patred @ Feb 3 2006, 07:47)
When I eventually get around to putting my racing videos on the 'net I'm also going to edit to only show me passing other cars. Never show me getting passed, and people will think I'm the best driver evAr!!

Pat

seriously! it's like he didn't really care to show any sort of line or driving skill on track. just showing when he came up on slower traffic.....
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post Feb 3 2006, 02:02 PM
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Well its a track car now (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif)
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post Feb 3 2006, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE (trackbird @ Feb 3 2006, 06:59)
I don't think he got hit, that looked just like a killer dose of brake hop to me. I think he got up on the RX7 (who buried his foot in the brakes for some reason), hammered the brakes, the back hopped, it tried to spin, he tried to catch it and it went around anyway. I've done the same thing several times (though it was while running a fast autocross course) and sometimes you can stand on the clutch and save it (engine braking makes it "tons" worse....not that you guys didn't know that)....and sometimes you can't.....

....must have watched the video only half heartedly.....I mistook the red car for an f-body....sorry guys (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) and did not notice the red guy braking as aggressively as you guys.....but FOR SURE....the driver of the video car was at fault.....very poor attempt at driving IMHO... :leaving:
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post Feb 4 2006, 05:21 AM
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anyone has it somewhere else ?
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post Feb 4 2006, 05:37 AM
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QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Feb 3 2006, 23:21)
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anyone has it somewhere else ?

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post Feb 4 2006, 05:49 AM
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Their driving made me sleepy!
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post Feb 4 2006, 06:08 AM
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It's 18.1 megs. I don't have anywhere to host it, but I can send it to someone if needed (and you have a way to get it).
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post Feb 4 2006, 09:06 AM
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This was posted over at cc.com and the driver's comments were supposedly in that thread. He claims that he didn't really need to brake much there and the RX7 surprised him with the amount of braking being done at that location. He says he chose to miss him and go off course.
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post Feb 4 2006, 12:48 PM
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He claims that he didn't really need to brake much there and the RX7 surprised him with the amount of braking being done at that location. He says he chose to miss him and go off course.
Yeah, right. <_<

That's VIR - full course and that back stretch is fast, about 3/4 of a mile in length. You have to brake fairly good there at the end of it, as you're at the top of the 'roller coaster' and you make a slight left and an immediate right and drop about 100' in elevation to get to the front stretch. He was definitely watching something else and not paying attention.

And did you notice the frost on the grass runnoff areas?, it was definitely cold there in Dec.

You can watch a full lap from one of my videos to get the idea of the track layout.
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post Feb 4 2006, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE (KeithO @ Feb 4 2006, 04:06)
This was posted over at cc.com and the driver's comments were supposedly in that thread. He claims that he didn't really need to brake much there and the RX7 surprised him with the amount of braking being done at that location. He says he chose to miss him and go off course.

I meant to post "his words" and forgot. But, I don't think he chose to miss him that way.....
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post Feb 4 2006, 03:11 PM
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I downloaded the video before the bandwidth was exceeded. Give me a place to upload it and I'll dump it there.

Edit: Someone please copy it from here and host it elsewhere. Thanks!

VIR Crash

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post Feb 4 2006, 03:44 PM
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That was some violent brake hop. I've had break hop in the past, but did this guy ever here of modulation and threshold braking? I don't know, the way I saw it, he wasn't reacting quick enough to what the car was doing. Who knows, maybe the same would have happened to me, but I wouldn't have been driving like a tool.

Is it just me or did it sound like that motor was revving HIGH?
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post Feb 4 2006, 07:56 PM
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If that was brake hop, WOW! He should get that fixed before tracking the car anymore. What kind of car was he driving?

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That was some violent brake hop. I've had break hop in the past, but did this guy ever here of modulation and threshold braking? I don't know, the way I saw it, he wasn't reacting quick enough to what the car was doing. Who knows, maybe the same would have happened to me, but I wouldn't have been driving like a tool.

Is it just me or did it sound like that motor was revving HIGH?
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