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 Oct 18 2006, 10:16 PM
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I suck at the auto-x :(  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,421 Joined: 21-April 05 From: TX Member No.: 727  |
QUOTE (trackbird @ Oct 18 2006, 04:57 PM)  Jeff, you're really right about that. I built the engine (had a machine shop do the work, but I selected the parts for it) and it's a splayed main cap motor, ZZ3 steel crank, balanced, torque plate honed, deck plugs, 0 decked, etc (I could go on). It was thoroughly and properly done and built from a sub 5k mile "warranty motor" block (tossed the rest) from GM (piston slap). So, it was seasoned, but not even dirty yet. With the current setup and a proper tune, what kind of power would you expect from it? |
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Oct 18 2006, 11:04 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (Mojave @ Oct 18 2006, 06:16 PM) QUOTE (trackbird @ Oct 18 2006, 04:57 PM) Jeff, you're really right about that. I built the engine (had a machine shop do the work, but I selected the parts for it) and it's a splayed main cap motor, ZZ3 steel crank, balanced, torque plate honed, deck plugs, 0 decked, etc (I could go on). It was thoroughly and properly done and built from a sub 5k mile "warranty motor" block (tossed the rest) from GM (piston slap). So, it was seasoned, but not even dirty yet. With the current setup and a proper tune, what kind of power would you expect from it? It's probably limited by the heads flow potential (ZZ3/ZZ4 heads with Manley race flow valves, skim cut to make sure they were true and 3 angle valve job, etc) to something in the mid to upper 300 (375-ish?) hp. I might be surprised and it may do that at the wheels, but I'd rather guess low. It's truly at 10.6:1 (12cc dished piston, 0 decked, 58cc combustion chamber, that actually seem to measure closer to 56 in real life, then skim cut, it might be a bit over 10.6:1) and the cam is a 220/230 .525 (Crane Compu Cam, those are the specs as I remember, he bought that cam, I was going to use a "street roller" solid roller, but a real small one in it). The heads (stock) flow about 208 cfm at .600 and about 200 cfm at .500 (as I remember), I put undercut valves in these which should help low lift (area under the curve) and max lift to some extent. I'm not expecting "big things", but it helps. So, you'll be head limited, but with a decent cam (such as what's in it) and that intake, it has potential to make power. It has K-motion K750 (as I remember) springs in it, I think he put Comp Pro Magnum roller rockers on it, ARP main studs, Lunati Street Race rods, Clevite bearings, a Street Damper, all ARP hardware, etc. It was built as a nice street motor that could play at the track. It should live a long and healty life at 400-450 hp, maybe a bit more. |
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Nov 26 2006, 08:58 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 239 Joined: 18-July 04 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 410 |
Offers / Late model trades???
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Dec 12 2006, 02:44 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Mobile, Al Member No.: 1,410 |
What suspension work does this car have? DOes it run? What brakes? Roll bar? Seats and belts?
Speedadikk@comcast.net David |
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Dec 12 2006, 05:32 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 239 Joined: 18-July 04 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 410 |
QUOTE (FASTFATBOY @ Dec 11 2006, 09:44 PM) What suspension work does this car have? DOes it run? What brakes? Roll bar? Seats and belts? David, The car basically has all new suspension pieces: New Moog steering parts from spindle to spindle, ball joints, etc Eibach Springs + KYB struts / shocks Suspension Techniques Sway Bars (35/25) Spohn TA and SFC's The only thing I haven't done yet is change out the LCA's and Panhard, but I have them in my garage (adjustable - need rod ends). The car is a street car, so the stock interior is still in it - no cage. I have a set of Corbeau seats (not race seats) that can go in it. Stock brakes are still on it, but I have a set of C4-HD fronts in the garage as well. The car runs and drives fine - just needs the computer tuned for the cam / intake (I have the tools). Around town the ECM keeps the A/F in check, it just goes rich under PE. I was working on the VE and Spark maps to get them dialed in, before I put it into storage for the winter. Once they are done I can start on tuning PE. Any other questions - just let me know. Thx. |
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Dec 13 2006, 01:32 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Mobile, Al Member No.: 1,410 |
QUOTE (bubba353z @ Dec 12 2006, 05:32 PM) QUOTE (FASTFATBOY @ Dec 11 2006, 09:44 PM) What suspension work does this car have? DOes it run? What brakes? Roll bar? Seats and belts? David, The car basically has all new suspension pieces: New Moog steering parts from spindle to spindle, ball joints, etc Eibach Springs + KYB struts / shocks Suspension Techniques Sway Bars (35/25) Spohn TA and SFC's The only thing I haven't done yet is change out the LCA's and Panhard, but I have them in my garage (adjustable - need rod ends). The car is a street car, so the stock interior is still in it - no cage. I have a set of Corbeau seats (not race seats) that can go in it. Stock brakes are still on it, but I have a set of C4-HD fronts in the garage as well. The car runs and drives fine - just needs the computer tuned for the cam / intake (I have the tools). Around town the ECM keeps the A/F in check, it just goes rich under PE. I was working on the VE and Spark maps to get them dialed in, before I put it into storage for the winter. Once they are done I can start on tuning PE. Any other questions - just let me know. Thx. Would this be a good trackday car for a novice(me)?I am NOT a total novice I have done one track day in a rental car,LMAO what a blast, all of the guys I go with are instructors in VERY fast BMW's so they will not let me get in over my head, I have had very fast cars and bikes, this car looks like a good starting point. Does it have rear disc brakes? What wheels and tires are on the car? Please send pics and e mail me directly Or call me 251-605-7112 Speedadikk@comcast.net Thanks David This post has been edited by FASTFATBOY: Dec 13 2006, 01:48 AM |
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Dec 13 2006, 02:32 AM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 239 Joined: 18-July 04 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 410 |
QUOTE (FASTFATBOY @ Dec 12 2006, 08:32 PM) Does it have rear disc brakes? What wheels and tires are on the car? Yes, it's a factory disk brake 10 bolt. Right now it has the stock Z28 wheels with Goodyear Eagle HP's. I do have some 85-87 IROC's available. E-mail sent w/ pics. thx. |
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Dec 13 2006, 08:09 AM
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newbie Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 7-December 06 Member No.: 1,519 |
Good luck with the sale. The motor in there sounds very very similar to a motor I had planned to build for my 89 IROC-Z, only difference was the cam.
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Jan 7 2007, 04:23 AM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 239 Joined: 18-July 04 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 410 |
Still Available....
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Mar 28 2007, 01:29 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,289 Joined: 4-May 04 From: Kenvil, NJ Member No.: 331 |
So now that Kevin claims the car as his, does this mean the A/C delete box is up for grabs?
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Mar 28 2007, 01:35 AM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (slowTA @ Mar 27 2007, 09:29 PM) So now that Kevin claims the car as his, does this mean the A/C delete box is up for grabs? Almost. Or, probably one of the two. I have to see which one (if either) I want..... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) |
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Mar 28 2007, 10:51 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 239 Joined: 18-July 04 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 410 |
Kevin gets first shot at the parts. Anything that is left will be posted here and on Thirdgen.
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May 18 2007, 01:51 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Mobile, Al Member No.: 1,410 |
QUOTE (bubba353z @ Mar 28 2007, 10:51 PM) Kevin gets first shot at the parts. Anything that is left will be posted here and on Thirdgen. This car ever sell? |
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May 18 2007, 03:50 AM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (FASTFATBOY @ May 17 2007, 09:51 PM) QUOTE (bubba353z @ Mar 28 2007, 10:51 PM) Kevin gets first shot at the parts. Anything that is left will be posted here and on Thirdgen. This car ever sell? It's about to. I should be picking it up in the next two weeks (give or take a bit). I'll make you a deal on it.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) |
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May 18 2007, 11:30 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Mobile, Al Member No.: 1,410 |
QUOTE (trackbird @ May 18 2007, 03:50 AM) QUOTE (FASTFATBOY @ May 17 2007, 09:51 PM) QUOTE (bubba353z @ Mar 28 2007, 10:51 PM) Kevin gets first shot at the parts. Anything that is left will be posted here and on Thirdgen. This car ever sell? It's about to. I should be picking it up in the next two weeks (give or take a bit). I'll make you a deal on it.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) Mail me Speedadikk@comcast.net |
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May 18 2007, 04:57 PM
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CMCer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,932 Joined: 12-February 04 From: the sticks near VIR Member No.: 194 |
e-mail sent about the Corbeau seats if they are still available.
Reason for edit: e-mail not pm!
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May 18 2007, 05:57 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
Julie, I'm sure they are still around and I'm about 95% sure that I don't need/want them. I can't speak for Mike, but you're probably first in line.
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May 18 2007, 06:01 PM
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CMCer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,932 Joined: 12-February 04 From: the sticks near VIR Member No.: 194 |
QUOTE (trackbird @ May 18 2007, 12:57 PM) Julie, I'm sure they are still around and I'm about 95% sure that I don't need/want them. I can't speak for Mike, but you're probably first in line. I'm confused, just got an e-mail back from David stating these were Hunsacker seats. ???? I scrolled up here and it was posted they were Corbeaus. |
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May 18 2007, 06:05 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
David? His name is Mike. They are Corbeau TRS wides. I know, I bought them new and sold them to him (and he lives 2 miles from me, I know him well). I think you've got the wrong e-mail address or got some wires crossed.
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May 18 2007, 06:25 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 239 Joined: 18-July 04 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 410 |
QUOTE (trackbird @ May 17 2007, 09:50 PM) It's about to. I should be picking it up in the next two weeks (give or take a bit). The storage is paid through 6/4. Julie - you've got first dibs on the seats, if Kevin doesn't want them. thx. |
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