2009 Corvette ZR1 |
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2009 Corvette ZR1 |
Dec 20 2007, 04:50 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
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Dec 20 2007, 06:09 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,528 Joined: 13-January 07 From: Solebury, Pa. Member No.: 1,589 |
Cool to see that they are giving it a top line aftermarket braking system right off the showroom floor!! (carbon-ceramic, no less!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/gr_eek2.gif) )
Glad to see also that they used forged pistons and crank (hopefully overbuilt) to handle the inevitable overboosting that the 1/4 milers will attempt with smaller pullies (IF that system even allows for pulley changes), or a complete conversion to big single or twin turbos. But either way I guess we will find out just how much boost the LS3 based alloy block can take. All of the pure, bone stock 1/4 mile record mavens (Ranger & co.) will LOVE that stock twin disc clutch, as the weak stocker holding back the launch is one of the reasons the current Z06 does not go even quicker down the drag strip. The price is high, but is completely justified with the engine tech, liberal use of carbon fiber body panels, stronger clutch & T56 (forgot the numerical code #), and those brakes!! It's a shame that they could not have lowered the weight to even less than the current Z06, like was being speculated. They should also offer a 'competition gray' finish for the wheels (like the current C6's/Z06es), for those who don't go for the pimpbling chrome/polished look. This post has been edited by dailydriver: Dec 20 2007, 06:14 PM |
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Dec 20 2007, 06:16 PM
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 |
You just be me to it! I was just going to post the exact same link! I like the brakes, power, CF, etc. I'm not sure if I like the clear part on the hood. It also looks like they didn't touch the seats????---For $100k they should update the seats! For RR, I'm not sure how good a supercharger is, and I'm not happy to hear of the +200 lbs. over a Z06. I think I'd rather a Z06 with some more N/A HP and those sick 15.5" front brakes! Oh, and the front splitter is welcomed!
This post has been edited by Teutonic Speedracer: Dec 20 2007, 06:18 PM |
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Dec 20 2007, 06:20 PM
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CMCer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,932 Joined: 12-February 04 From: the sticks near VIR Member No.: 194 |
You just be me to it! I was just going to post the exact same link! I like the brakes, power, CF, etc. I'm not sure if I like the clear part on the hood. It also looks like they didn't touch the seats????---For $100k they should update the seats! For RR, I'm not sure how good a supercharger is, and I'm not happy to hear of the +200 lbs. over a Z06. I think I'd rather a Z06 with some more N/A HP and those sick 15.5" front brakes! Oh, and the front splitter is welcomed! Funny you mention it, I have complained about the seats, more specifically the lack of optional harness system like the ACR Viper has. The Scroth belts on that car stow away neatly when not in use, why can't GM do this also! After a day in Z06s instructing I get pretty beat up! |
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Dec 20 2007, 09:07 PM
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Moderator Group: Advanced Members Posts: 863 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 5 |
Nice. My only real complaint will be the seats. And the pice of course, but for what you get, the price is not too unreasonable. I still think it's going to take a beating when compared to it's competitors on the interior though (Porsche 911 Turbo/GT2, Ferraris, etc).
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Dec 20 2007, 09:44 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,528 Joined: 13-January 07 From: Solebury, Pa. Member No.: 1,589 |
Funny you mention it, I have complained about the seats, more specifically the lack of optional harness system like the ACR Viper has. The Scroth belts on that car stow away neatly when not in use, why can't GM do this also! After a day in Z06s instructing I get pretty beat up! Agreed. It should have a 'club sport' option with Sparco Lights/Recaro RPGs/Racetech (or such) to save weight and hold you in better, and similar harnesses to the ACR Vipers. Supposedly, a couple of years ago Schroth made a harness set that was BOTH FIA/SFI legal (to most org's rules), AND DOT/NHSTA legal for street use. These were FULL WIDTH competition style belts, NOT their street/autocross 2" wide 'ASM' belts. |
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Dec 20 2007, 10:08 PM
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CMCer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,932 Joined: 12-February 04 From: the sticks near VIR Member No.: 194 |
Funny you mention it, I have complained about the seats, more specifically the lack of optional harness system like the ACR Viper has. The Scroth belts on that car stow away neatly when not in use, why can't GM do this also! After a day in Z06s instructing I get pretty beat up! Agreed. It should have a 'club sport' option with Sparco Lights/Recaro RPGs/Racetech (or such) to save weight and hold you in better, and similar harnesses to the ACR Vipers. Supposedly, a couple of years ago Schroth made a harness set that was BOTH FIA/SFI legal (to most org's rules), AND DOT/NHSTA legal for street use. These were FULL WIDTH competition style belts, NOT their street/autocross 2" wide 'ASM' belts. Sweet, do these fit F-bods? |
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Dec 21 2007, 01:46 AM
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Grumpy Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,722 Joined: 1-January 04 From: Bakersfield CA Member No.: 81 |
You just be me to it! I was just going to post the exact same link! I like the brakes, power, CF, etc. I'm not sure if I like the clear part on the hood. It also looks like they didn't touch the seats????---For $100k they should update the seats! For RR, I'm not sure how good a supercharger is, and I'm not happy to hear of the +200 lbs. over a Z06. I think I'd rather a Z06 with some more N/A HP and those sick 15.5" front brakes! Oh, and the front splitter is welcomed! I feel the same way Dennis about being N/A, I didn't even look at the car becuase of the SC! Put a head and cam(and a few other bolt ons) in a T1 car and beat the crap out of that car for 1/4th the price! Why not a turbo GM? |
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Dec 21 2007, 02:59 AM
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I suck at the auto-x :( Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,421 Joined: 21-April 05 From: TX Member No.: 727 |
You just be me to it! I was just going to post the exact same link! I like the brakes, power, CF, etc. I'm not sure if I like the clear part on the hood. It also looks like they didn't touch the seats????---For $100k they should update the seats! For RR, I'm not sure how good a supercharger is, and I'm not happy to hear of the +200 lbs. over a Z06. I think I'd rather a Z06 with some more N/A HP and those sick 15.5" front brakes! Oh, and the front splitter is welcomed! I feel the same way Dennis about being N/A, I didn't even look at the car becuase of the SC! Put a head and cam(and a few other bolt ons) in a T1 car and beat the crap out of that car for 1/4th the price! Why not a turbo GM? I think the problem with a turbo is packaging. Where do you put it? The SC is nice because it fits 'in' the intake manifold. And for those who haven't seen, the money shot: (IMG:http://picsorban.com/upload/gmgraph.jpg) |
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Dec 21 2007, 04:47 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
Wow you weren't kidding about the money shot.
How does the SC add 150 lbs? I just don't get it. The 15" brakes will add some weight but the CF should take some off. Why do the put in such big brakes? Marketing only? The see-through hood is cheesy retarded. To me it takes a classy, performance-driven car and then ghetto's it up. Might as well put in 2 DVD players, a fake spoiler, and some spinners. Stupid. Did you notice the brake calipers are the same color as the car? This post has been edited by StanIROCZ: Dec 21 2007, 04:51 AM |
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Dec 21 2007, 04:49 AM
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 |
Wow on the torque curve when compared with the Viper's 8.4L! SC the snake and watch out. Of course, not to hijack the thread, but have you guys seen this:?
BadAss LPE 1300rwhp C6 1300rwhp on race gas 1100rwhp on 93 0-200 in 18s Mile 25s @226mph TS (calc) - 300mph DD with A/C, Nav, etc. |
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Dec 21 2007, 06:29 AM
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Grumpy Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,722 Joined: 1-January 04 From: Bakersfield CA Member No.: 81 |
You just be me to it! I was just going to post the exact same link! I like the brakes, power, CF, etc. I'm not sure if I like the clear part on the hood. It also looks like they didn't touch the seats????---For $100k they should update the seats! For RR, I'm not sure how good a supercharger is, and I'm not happy to hear of the +200 lbs. over a Z06. I think I'd rather a Z06 with some more N/A HP and those sick 15.5" front brakes! Oh, and the front splitter is welcomed! I feel the same way Dennis about being N/A, I didn't even look at the car becuase of the SC! Put a head and cam(and a few other bolt ons) in a T1 car and beat the crap out of that car for 1/4th the price! Why not a turbo GM? I think the problem with a turbo is packaging. Where do you put it? The SC is nice because it fits 'in' the intake manifold. And for those who haven't seen, the money shot: (IMG:http://picsorban.com/upload/gmgraph.jpg) Wow on the torque curve when compared with the Viper's 8.4L! SC the snake and watch out. Of course, not to hijack the thread, but have you guys seen this:? BadAss LPE 1300rwhp C6 1300rwhp on race gas 1100rwhp on 93 0-200 in 18s Mile 25s @226mph TS (calc) - 300mph DD with A/C, Nav, etc. It looks packaged just fine to me (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Dec 21 2007, 01:00 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 225 Joined: 23-August 07 From: Cumming, GA Member No.: 1,914 |
You just be me to it! I was just going to post the exact same link! I like the brakes, power, CF, etc. I'm not sure if I like the clear part on the hood. It also looks like they didn't touch the seats????---For $100k they should update the seats! For RR, I'm not sure how good a supercharger is, and I'm not happy to hear of the +200 lbs. over a Z06. I think I'd rather a Z06 with some more N/A HP and those sick 15.5" front brakes! Oh, and the front splitter is welcomed! I agree. Give me the lighter Z06 with the carbon brakes and new aero bits with more NA power anyday. Hopefully GM will offer those brake as an option on the Z06. |
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Dec 21 2007, 03:11 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,395 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
I agree. Give me the lighter Z06 with the carbon brakes and new aero bits with more NA power anyday. Hopefully GM will offer those brake as an option on the Z06. Ok, so I remove the carpet and the stereo, toss a few things I don't need and I'm down to Z06 weight. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) That torque curve looks like big fun. |
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Dec 21 2007, 03:58 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,766 Joined: 10-April 04 From: New Orleans, LA Member No.: 303 |
The part I didn't get was the "softer spring rate than a Z06". So, it weighs 150 more lbs and has softer springs? Am I missing something?
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Dec 21 2007, 04:13 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,795 Joined: 3-July 04 From: Pearland, Texas Member No.: 385 |
How does the SC add 150 lbs? I just don't get it. The 15" brakes will add some weight but the CF should take some off. Why do the put in such big brakes? Marketing only? The see-through hood is cheesy retarded. To me it takes a classy, performance-driven car and then ghetto's it up. Might as well put in 2 DVD players, a fake spoiler, and some spinners. Stupid. Don't forget that is a SC _and_ aftercooler. That plumbing will add some weight. Yeah, and the video screens implanted in the back of the headrests of the seats. Gotta give something for the Porsche drivers to look at besides the tail lights. "Oh look, they're playing 'Cars'! I'll just sit back here and watch." (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Dec 21 2007, 07:20 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,528 Joined: 13-January 07 From: Solebury, Pa. Member No.: 1,589 |
Give me the lighter Z06 with the carbon brakes and new aero bits with more NA power anyday. Hopefully GM will offer those brake as an option on the Z06. Is GM definitely going to carry on with the C6 Z06 once this monster is unleashed?? It would be cool if they did turn the current Z06 into a lightweight track car with more NA power, the lighter carbon bits, great/light racing shell seats with harnesses and Penske or Moton coilovers. A Hollinger sequential would also be cool, but then we're into the $150-$175K territory. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/gr_sad.gif) |
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Dec 21 2007, 08:11 PM
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 |
I agree. Give me the lighter Z06 with the carbon brakes and new aero bits with more NA power anyday. Hopefully GM will offer those brake as an option on the Z06. Ok, so I remove the carpet and the stereo, toss a few things I don't need and I'm down to Z06 weight. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) That torque curve looks like big fun. Or remove those same bits from a Z06 and be a real lightweight (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Dec 21 2007, 09:00 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
Give me the lighter Z06 with the carbon brakes and new aero bits with more NA power anyday. Hopefully GM will offer those brake as an option on the Z06. Is GM definitely going to carry on with the C6 Z06 once this monster is unleashed?? It would be cool if they did turn the current Z06 into a lightweight track car with more NA power, the lighter carbon bits, great/light racing shell seats with harnesses and Penske or Moton coilovers. A Hollinger sequential would also be cool, but then we're into the $150-$175K territory. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/gr_sad.gif) |
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Dec 21 2007, 09:09 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,395 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
Or remove those same bits from a Z06 and be a real lightweight (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) True, but for anything but a sanctioned class, I'll take the power and torque of the ZR1 over the same car with less power and 150 lbs less weight. I don't know that I'd feel the 150 lbs, but I know I'd feel the power differences. That's just me, there's no right or wrong answer. |
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