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Steve91T
post Sep 16 2011, 03:23 PM
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And I don't think it's going to be in an F-body.

I've got a 97 SS with tons of mods. It's an absolute blast on the track, but rather expensive. Tires, brakes, fuel, and not to mention opti sparks (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . I love HPDE's, and I still have tons to learn, but I am dreaming of wheel to wheel racing. I've been doing HPDE's on and off for 12 years now, and I'm very comfortable in the experienced groups.

I've been thinking for years about Spec E30. It seems to be in my price range, but the cars, to me, are boring. I know everyone raves about how much fun the series is, but it doesn't excite me.

Spec Miata is another boring car, just more expensive.

FFR challenge would be fun, but out of my price range.

I've lately been thinking about Legends cars. Either that or the Thunder Roadsters. I've heard they are a blast to drive, relatively inexpensive to maintain, and if you crash, it's a lot easier to fix than an old street car. I live in VA, as you guys know, Charlotte, only 3 hrs away, is home to racing. The legends cars were born here, and has the largest turnout. Seems like you can get a legends car for less than $10K used. That's more or less the cost of a Spec E30.

I also know they can and do race them on road courses. I'm not sure what I think of the small circle tracks, but I'm sure they'd be fun.

Anyway, what do you guys think?

This is something I'm looking at doing in about 2 years. I'm going to be heading to pilot training for the Air National Guard sometime early next year, but after that, I'll have some free time again. It'll give me time to save up the money.

Thanks guys,
Steve
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post Nov 12 2011, 03:45 PM
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Hey guys. So it looks like I'm not going to be able to fly for the military, at least not for the next couple of years. I don't have the funds right now to convert my Camaro to CMC2, but I want to start planning.

I need to look closer at the rules, but I believe I have all of the suspension and brakes that I need. More or less.
I need to sell my 430 hp stroked LT1 (396) and get a stock LT1. Hopefully I can actually make a little money there.
I need to strip the rest of the interior and sell off my racing seats for something safer and approved. (maybe the money I make on the engine will pay for the seat?)
I also need a fire system

Now, for the expensive part. The roll cage. Who would be on the east cost that is reputable? And how much is this going to cost?


I'm kind of torn on which direction to go. If I were to sell my car, it probably wouldn't sell for very much. $8000 maybe? It's got nearly 100,000 miles on the chassis, and about 50,000 easy miles on the engine. But I know just about every nut and bolt in the car. And at the end of the day, it's still "just" a Camaro. They really are a dime a dozen.

What do you guys think? Think it would be more cost effective to put a cage in mine and go racing? Or to look for another cheap Camaro to race with? The only thing I'd like would be an LS1. I really don't like optisparks.

Anyway, I know I'm still a little ways away from doing this, but I'd like to start planning my move. Also, if I'm going to CMC my Camaro, I may start doing things in stages, like swap out my engine for a stock LT1, to get used to the power. But I'll keep it street legal for as long as I can.

Thanks,
Steve
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post Nov 14 2011, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE (Steve91T @ Nov 12 2011, 10:45 AM) *
Now, for the expensive part. The roll cage. Who would be on the east cost that is reputable? And how much is this going to cost?


As Alan pointed out there are a lot of little things that add up but you can slowly put everything together and that's what I'm doing. I just did the battery relocation with box, master kill switch and did the oil catch can with all of the plumbing and fittings. All of the parts alone were over $400 with me doing the labor. Just take it slow and you'll get there.

I'll probably bite the bullet and get a cage installed within the next year. I know it's a haul for you but I'm probably going to have Race Car Builders of South Florida do my cage. They've done quite a few NASA cages and you can see some of their work in this 18 page epic on the NASA Florida forum. Cage Builders Thread I haven't had them quote the cage yet but I know their prices are fair.
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Steve91T   I want to go from HPDE's to competitive racing...   Sep 16 2011, 03:23 PM
GlennCMC70   And why have you not considered CMC? Reason I ask ...   Sep 16 2011, 04:32 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (GlennCMC70 @ Sep 16 2011, 12:32 PM...   Sep 16 2011, 05:11 PM
GlennCMC70   I thought the east coast had a large CMC group. I ...   Sep 16 2011, 05:20 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (GlennCMC70 @ Sep 16 2011, 01:20 PM...   Sep 16 2011, 11:03 PM
GlennCMC70   QUOTE If you don't mind me asking, how much di...   Sep 16 2011, 11:25 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (GlennCMC70 @ Sep 16 2011, 07:25 PM...   Sep 16 2011, 11:29 PM
AllZWay   I'll echo a lot of what Glenn has already said...   Sep 17 2011, 02:09 PM
GlennCMC70   James is selling himself short. He is a Regional C...   Sep 17 2011, 02:21 PM
wstukas   If you're in the Charlotte area, does that mea...   Sep 18 2011, 05:01 AM
GlennCMC70   LTCC unit is not legal in CMC.   Sep 18 2011, 02:40 PM
CrashTestDummy   A friend of mine recently got a Legends car, and h...   Sep 18 2011, 06:16 PM
Blainefab   With NASA, it seems that the group of people in ea...   Sep 18 2011, 07:50 PM
GlennCMC70   Alan - I think the "issues" that always ...   Sep 18 2011, 08:58 PM
Steve91T   Wow, I just found out that TR's never really t...   Sep 19 2011, 02:08 PM
Xscream   QUOTE (Steve91T @ Sep 19 2011, 09:08 AM) ...   Sep 19 2011, 02:38 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (Xscream @ Sep 19 2011, 10:38 AM) Q...   Sep 19 2011, 03:17 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (Steve91T @ Sep 19 2011, 11:17 AM) ...   Sep 19 2011, 04:19 PM
Doug Phillips   Sorted out my protruck and won my first event. Cam...   Sep 19 2011, 06:12 PM
GlennCMC70   AI is just stupid expensive. Most of those cars ar...   Sep 19 2011, 07:38 PM
roostmeyer   I know its probably not a good idea if you can...   Sep 19 2011, 07:52 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (roostmeyer @ Sep 19 2011, 03:52 PM...   Sep 20 2011, 12:23 AM
raybob9289   Stay away from AI, way too much $$...   Sep 20 2011, 01:10 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (raybob9289 @ Sep 20 2011, 09:10 AM...   Sep 20 2011, 01:50 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Steve91T @ Sep 20 2011, 09:50 AM) ...   Sep 20 2011, 02:31 PM
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Steve91T   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 20 2011, 12:22 PM)...   Sep 20 2011, 04:28 PM
matt f   It's a little late to get into this discussion...   Sep 30 2011, 04:44 PM
Steve91T   Hey guys. So it looks like I'm not going to be...   Nov 12 2011, 03:45 PM
Jeff94TA   QUOTE (Steve91T @ Nov 12 2011, 10:45 AM) ...   Nov 14 2011, 05:33 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (Jeff94TA @ Nov 14 2011, 12:33 PM) ...   Nov 14 2011, 05:40 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (Jeff94TA @ Nov 14 2011, 09:33 AM) ...   Nov 14 2011, 09:24 PM
Jeff94TA   QUOTE (Blainefab @ Nov 14 2011, 04:24 PM)...   Nov 15 2011, 03:43 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (Jeff94TA @ Nov 15 2011, 10:43 AM) ...   Nov 15 2011, 06:00 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (Steve91T @ Nov 15 2011, 10:00 AM) ...   Nov 15 2011, 07:58 PM
Steve91T   I've been reading through the CMC2 rules. I th...   Nov 14 2011, 08:36 AM
Blainefab   QUOTE (Steve91T @ Nov 14 2011, 12:36 AM) ...   Nov 14 2011, 12:22 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (Blainefab @ Nov 14 2011, 06:22 AM)...   Nov 14 2011, 02:30 PM
Steve91T   harnesses cutoff switch, battery box and wiring ...   Nov 14 2011, 05:36 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (Steve91T @ Nov 14 2011, 09:36 AM) ...   Nov 14 2011, 08:46 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (Blainefab @ Nov 14 2011, 12:46 PM)...   Nov 15 2011, 08:06 PM
Steve91T   I spent about 30 minutes on the phone with Carlos ...   Nov 14 2011, 09:27 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (Steve91T @ Nov 14 2011, 01:27 PM) ...   Nov 14 2011, 09:35 PM
Blainefab   There's a good bit of cage tech in this thread...   Nov 14 2011, 09:41 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (Blainefab @ Nov 14 2011, 04:41 PM)...   Nov 14 2011, 10:08 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (Steve91T @ Nov 14 2011, 02:08 PM) ...   Nov 14 2011, 10:31 PM
Spruill242   I had Carlos do my cage. He is more than willing t...   Nov 15 2011, 02:31 PM
Spruill242   Just remember that the time you've already put...   Nov 16 2011, 02:54 AM
Blainefab   QUOTE (Spruill242 @ Nov 15 2011, 06:54 PM...   Nov 16 2011, 07:09 AM
Steve91T   Maybe I came across to be more aggressive with pre...   Nov 16 2011, 01:27 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (Steve91T @ Nov 16 2011, 05:27 AM) ...   Nov 16 2011, 08:43 PM
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mitchntx   QUOTE (Steve91T @ Nov 16 2011, 07:27 AM) ...   Dec 7 2011, 12:31 AM
Mojave   I can't say anything that Alan hasn't alre...   Nov 17 2011, 11:42 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (Mojave @ Nov 17 2011, 06:42 PM) I ...   Nov 18 2011, 03:22 PM

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