2013 1LE Camaro Options

[1meanZ]

I have yet to see a "new" Camaro that was fast on track, not one.

The new 1LEs will be cool for sure. The problem is the weight. You can make them into capable track cars, but be prepared to spend some cash. The one I've tracked is amazing, but it has 15"+ front brakes, 640RWHP, and weighs ~4400lbs with me in the seat. Good enough for a 1:21 flat on street tires at Putnam Park in 104* heat, it ran cool the entire time, the ABS is bad ass, and it was totally driveable.

The downside is that you better be able to afford the consumables, because the weight likes to chew through them.

FASTFATBOY, finding a fast 5th gen at a track day is a rarity in my experience too. Look how long they've been on the market and not even one of us on this site owns one? That's gotta tell you something. The only time I've been around a fast 5th gen was at Gingerman last year on the motor state challenge. There was one there just barely behind me, but he had 560rwhp. I've got 100 less than that at the flywheel. With enough power you can make even an elephant fast I guess.

[nape]

The new 1LEs will be cool for sure. The problem is the weight. You can make them into capable track cars, but be prepared to spend some cash. The one I've tracked is amazing, but it has 15"+ front brakes, 640RWHP, and weighs ~4400lbs with me in the seat. Good enough for a 1:21 flat on street tires at Putnam Park in 104* heat, it ran cool the entire time, the ABS is bad ass, and it was totally driveable.

The downside is that you better be able to afford the consumables, because the weight likes to chew through them.

What was done to it to get that kind of power??

Heads, cam, headers, Magnusson 2300 blower. It's sweet, the thing will chirp 4th. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/drink.gif)

1meanZ: it went 1:36.3 at Gingerman short at Motor State this year and it had a 1:34 in it until I shifted into 5th instead of 3rd coming onto the front straight... on 200 TW street tires. AND, it drove home to Indy from the Autocross getting 26MPG. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

This post has been edited by nape: Aug 8 2012, 02:19 AM

[FASTFATBOY]

I have yet to see a "new" Camaro that was fast on track, not one.

The new 1LEs will be cool for sure. The problem is the weight. You can make them into capable track cars, but be prepared to spend some cash. The one I've tracked is amazing, but it has 15"+ front brakes, 640RWHP, and weighs ~4400lbs with me in the seat. Good enough for a 1:21 flat on street tires at Putnam Park in 104* heat, it ran cool the entire time, the ABS is bad ass, and it was totally driveable.

The downside is that you better be able to afford the consumables, because the weight likes to chew through them.

FASTFATBOY, finding a fast 5th gen at a track day is a rarity in my experience too. Look how long they've been on the market and not even one of us on this site owns one? That's gotta tell you something. The only time I've been around a fast 5th gen was at Gingerman last year on the motor state challenge. There was one there just barely behind me, but he had 560rwhp. I've got 100 less than that at the flywheel. With enough power you can make even an elephant fast I guess.

I think we all see that spending $35k on a car to go slower than a car thats at least 8 years older and less than 1/2 the money is insane.

I buddy rented one at Road Atlanta with the paddle shifted auto and Brembo's and said it was ok but he is not real aggressive.

The guy I usually got to trackdays with has a lot of experience and rented the 6 cylinder paddle shifted one at Sebring and was fast in it. But he is pretty fast in anything.

I think people buy those cars because of the ohhh and ahhh factor more than anything else, guys like us realize that for $35k there are a LOT of faster lower maintenance options out there to go fast in.

[nape]

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Ran 3rd at Motor State in the Late Model Class. 1st was Danny Popp driving the Lingenfelter *cough* race car *cough* L28 and 2nd was Todd Rumpke driving his C6 Z06 that Danny Popp won the OUSCI in last year.

Car is owned by Bruce Raymond of Raymond's Performance in Indy. They've been doing a lot of 5th gen stuff since they came out and can build an awesome, honest street car. The car that got the nod to go to the Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational in Vegas didn't even have much of an interior...

This post has been edited by nape: Aug 8 2012, 02:27 AM

[nape]

I think we all see that spending $35k on a car to go slower than a car thats at least 8 years older and less than 1/2 the money is insane.

I buddy rented one at Road Atlanta with the paddle shifted auto and Brembo's and said it was ok but he is not real aggressive.

The guy I usually got to trackdays with has a lot of experience and rented the 6 cylinder paddle shifted one at Sebring and was fast in it. But he is pretty fast in anything.

I think people buy those cars because of the ohhh and ahhh factor more than anything else, guys like us realize that for $35k there are a LOT of faster lower maintenance options out there to go fast in.

I said the same thing about guys building race cars out of 4th gens when I got started (2006). It's all a matter of prospective, I'll bet you could find a wrecked SS in the 'teens somewhere.

[FASTFATBOY]

I think we all see that spending $35k on a car to go slower than a car thats at least 8 years older and less than 1/2 the money is insane.

I buddy rented one at Road Atlanta with the paddle shifted auto and Brembo's and said it was ok but he is not real aggressive.

The guy I usually got to trackdays with has a lot of experience and rented the 6 cylinder paddle shifted one at Sebring and was fast in it. But he is pretty fast in anything.

I think people buy those cars because of the ohhh and ahhh factor more than anything else, guys like us realize that for $35k there are a LOT of faster lower maintenance options out there to go fast in.

I said the same thing about guys building race cars out of 4th gens when I got started (2006). It's all a matter of prospective, I'll bet you could find a wrecked SS in the 'teens somewhere.

If it's in the teens it's probably a total.


Then repair it, if it's repairable. Buying brakes and tires for one of those has to be through the roof. I like my $200 front pads and $650 a set NT-05's.


I agree the L28 car is a full blown racecar, I ran against that car in Arlington at the OUSCFO....its damn fast, but it outta be fast, LS7 powered and every bolt on part and all the weight reduction you can do to one of those cars. I feel pretty sure you could make a 4th gen that fast for a lot less money, God knows what it cost to build that thing.

[dailydriver]

The new 1LEs will be cool for sure. The problem is the weight. You can make them into capable track cars, but be prepared to spend some cash. The one I've tracked is amazing, but it has 15"+ front brakes, 640RWHP, and weighs ~4400lbs with me in the seat. Good enough for a 1:21 flat on street tires at Putnam Park in 104* heat, it ran cool the entire time, the ABS is bad ass, and it was totally driveable.

The downside is that you better be able to afford the consumables, because the weight likes to chew through them.

What was done to it to get that kind of power??

Heads, cam, headers, Magnusson 2300 blower. It's sweet, the thing will chirp 4th. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/drink.gif)

Oh, OK, I figured it would need forced induction to make that much power without being a too high strung/near full race n/a engine.

Was that in a 1LE?? (Kinda seems to defeat the whole purpose. )

Supposedly the 5.5s in the C6Rs would make WELL NORTH of that 640 RWHP if they took the quarter sized inlet restrictors out of them, and tuned/injector sized them for the additional airflow. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
But then again, they WILL NOT idle, or be functional on the street, being full race engines.

[1meanZ]

Heads, cam, headers, Magnusson 2300 blower. It's sweet, the thing will chirp 4th. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/drink.gif)

1meanZ: it went 1:36.3 at Gingerman short at Motor State this year and it had a 1:34 in it until I shifted into 5th instead of 3rd coming onto the front straight... on 200 TW street tires. AND, it drove home to Indy from the Autocross getting 26MPG. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I went 1:48 last year and he was just a few 10ths behind me, we were on the long course.

so how much did the engine work cost on that car? Heads, cam, blower and exhaust has to be pushing $10k?

[cretinx]

I wonder what they've done to the Continental Tire Challenge Camaro's? Anyone know what they weigh and how much power they are making? They are doing pretty good, just took 1st and 2nd a few days ago.

Those cars are showroom stock

[dailydriver]

I wonder what they've done to the Continental Tire Challenge Camaro's? Anyone know what they weigh and how much power they are making? They are doing pretty good, just took 1st and 2nd a few days ago.

Those cars are showroom stock

Are you sure about that?

I always thought they were prepped to an SCCA T2 level, at the very least . (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif)

This post has been edited by dailydriver: Aug 12 2012, 10:10 PM

[Interceptor]

So I was waiting for a shuttle at the Chevy store today, killed some time by sitting in all the new cars and trucks - - Cruze, Volt, Regal GS, Suburban, Escalade, etc.

The only car I sat in and couldn't see the tach and speedo with the steering wheel adjusted for driving . . . was the Camaro . . .


WTF ???

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Ran 3rd at Motor State in the Late Model Class. 1st was Danny Popp driving the Lingenfelter *cough* race car *cough* L28 and 2nd was Todd Rumpke driving his C6 Z06 that Danny Popp won the OUSCI in last year.

Car is owned by Bruce Raymond of Raymond's Performance in Indy. They've been doing a lot of 5th gen stuff since they came out and can build an awesome, honest street car. The car that got the nod to go to the Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational in Vegas didn't even have much of an interior...

Both of these cars, our shop car and the L28 are running Pedders suspension and prepped at our shop.They are both very fat and very fast the L28 is all high end from front to rear our car is still on the stock bottom end,clutch and rear axles.I do agree that the earlier f bodies are much cheaper to go fast but that's not what GM is giving us to work with these days.You will be able to see both of these camaro's at this years sema show and also competing in the Optima Ultimate Street car Challenge against some of the baddest "street cars" in the country.Last year the L28 was over 8 Seconds faster than any other modern pony car at the event and both of these cars are much faster this year.

[dailydriver]

Again, they would be MUCH more popular on here, IF there was a way to affordably lighten them, A LOT!