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post Nov 20 2004, 01:49 AM
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An offtopic not F-body search....

Anyone know what car(s) came with TINY turbochargers?

Especially looking for something that's probably easy to access and CHEAP.

Housing size is most important. SMALL. But if you have an idea boost through X size intake would be sweet....


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post Nov 20 2004, 02:42 AM
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Most of the 4 cyllinder Dodges came with small turbos, too small to really show the potential of the 4 cyllinder Dodge engine. Mitsubishis, particularly the sedans, came with small turbos, too. Wasn't there a Geo Sprint Turbo a while back? 3 cyllinder, and a non-intercooled turbo. Now _that_ should be small! :-)
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post Nov 20 2004, 02:44 AM
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Adding a blower to the lawnmower, Lonnie?
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post Nov 20 2004, 02:55 AM
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Nope.

Just a custom built mini chopper, with a BUNCH of HP, and a flame shooting exhaust.

You know, a "pit bike".
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post Nov 20 2004, 04:12 AM
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Hey Randy, you remember how I said in another thread that many of us have track only cars now, but yet some of us are more insane than others? Well, . . .

Lonnie, if you're looking for small turbos that would work on something like that I wouldn't bother with an automotive engine turbo. You'd never spin the engine fast enough to make boost I'd imagine. Then again, why would it matter. Just put a small turbo on it and have it look cool. Imagine hearing a turbo whine coming out of the exhaust of one of those things. Who cares if it actually adds power. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif)
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post Nov 20 2004, 04:44 AM
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13B or G? from an automatic eagle talon/mitsubishi eclipse, 89-93 The 5speeds had a 14b, tad bigger.

or a T25 from a 2G DSM- talon/eclipse

Search turbo mustangs.com, they have a TON of DIY stuff there
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post Nov 20 2004, 05:48 AM
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Something from an eclipse or talon may work.

The older K-cars came with turbos but the design is probably much less efficient.

Something out a turbo diesel meant for farm applications might do the trick too. You would have to get it out of a small tractor or implement. Most farm diesel engines don't rev that high so I'd imagine that the housing would be quite small for little to no lag. Farmers that I've met are very financial conscious too, if you have a part number, you could probably get a rebuilt or salvage one for cheap.
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post Nov 20 2004, 01:44 PM
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Although probably a bit rarer of a car, a Hyundai Scoupe turbo? I thought about one of these cars back in the mid-'90s when I was looking for a "performance" Japanese econobox, but their power output still didn't match the NA Sentra SE-R I ended up with. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Nov 19 2004, 10:55 PM)
Nope.

Just a custom built mini chopper, with a BUNCH of HP, and a flame shooting exhaust.

You know, a "pit bike".

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(335's, turbo pit bike, ugh-ugh-ugh!)

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post Nov 20 2004, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE (patred @ Nov 20 2004, 08:44 AM)
Although probably a bit rarer of a car, a Hyundai Scoupe turbo? I thought about one of these cars back in the mid-'90s when I was looking for a "performance" Japanese econobox, but their power output still didn't match the NA Sentra SE-R I ended up with. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Pat

I drove one of those. In it's time, it was fast. Then, I drove a new Sentra SER. I really liked the Sentra. It didn't actually matter since I couldn't afford either one at the time.
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post Nov 20 2004, 05:07 PM
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How about a Kawasaki 750 turbo? Gotta be smaller than any car turbo.
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post Nov 20 2004, 06:21 PM
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Lonnie,

You're doing it all wrong. Find a turbo, then get a motor to match the size of the turbo. Stick that in a pit bike and shake well. That's how you should do it.

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post Nov 21 2004, 02:14 AM
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QUOTE (patred @ Nov 20 2004, 07:44 AM)
Although probably a bit rarer of a car, a Hyundai Scoupe turbo? I thought about one of these cars back in the mid-'90s when I was looking for a "performance" Japanese econobox, but their power output still didn't match the NA Sentra SE-R I ended up with. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Pat

Heh, does that take me back!! I had a friend at a place I used to work at (remember ARCO?) who would always ask me "What's the scoup?" I would always answer "It is a smal Hundai." :-)

As an alternative to a turbo, why not a NOS pony bottle? It would supply the instant HP you are looking for, and be just as much a conversation piece as a turbo.

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post Nov 22 2004, 04:46 PM
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They made about a billion of the Subaru Loyale turbo's in the late 80's, early 90's. They should be extremely small although I never paid enough attention to them to tell you much more. As a matter of fact a friend of mine has one of these cars in his front yard with a blown motor right now. Might be able to get the turbo for extremely cheap ?? Maybe I could hook you up with him ??
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post Nov 23 2004, 01:33 AM
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There's a 80ties Kawasaki turbo bike (how many things are wrong with this sentence already? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) with a T2 housing turbo. The thing is tiny, but because of that, it can be air cooled, so no need for crazy oil feed lines running everywhere. If you want more info I can get it for you, as a good friend of mine has it, but that's all the info I got off hand.
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post Nov 23 2004, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE (RedHardSupra @ Nov 22 2004, 08:33 PM)
There's a 80ties Kawasaki turbo bike (how many things are wrong with this sentence already? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) with a T2 housing turbo. The thing is tiny, but because of that, it can be air cooled, so no need for crazy oil feed lines running everywhere. If you want more info I can get it for you, as a good friend of mine has it, but that's all the info I got off hand.

Marcin,

I should have known that you'd know something about this.....

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post Nov 23 2004, 03:37 AM
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I seem to remember it was a 750 turbo but was made for a very limited amount of time. It would be exceedingly rare to find a used turbo from that though and aftermarket turbo kits for bikes would also be quite pricey I'd expect.
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post Nov 24 2004, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE (Racehead @ Nov 22 2004, 10:46 AM)
They made about a billion of the Subaru Loyale turbo's in the late 80's, early 90's. They should be extremely small although I never paid enough attention to them to tell you much more. As a matter of fact a friend of mine has one of these cars in his front yard with a blown motor right now. Might be able to get the turbo for extremely cheap ?? Maybe I could hook you up with him ??


Yes please do. Cheap is what I'm looking for.....


I will probably look into nitrous bottles to.

Basically it will NEVER be safe. But it will be fun. I'm thinking extra tires would be required because of mass burnouts. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif)

BTW the engine is, in stock for, a 16HP lawn tractor engine. Which I'm rebuilding. While I'm at it I'll do whatever I can that "seems like should make it faster". Maybe polish the heads or whatever.


It's an old sears tractor and most "speed parts" are for 5hp Briggs, so maybe I can have a custom cam made. I'd have to have it up and running first though. Might look into a custom intake with dual carbs off a 5hp Briggs.

The carb on it now though will polish up nice. Looks like a small SU carb.

So start with a 16hp engine, add a custom cam, port work, and a turbo, dual carbs, pipe(s) etc....Most of these are being put together with 3.5 or 5 horse Briggs.

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