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ESPCamaro
post Sep 1 2005, 09:43 AM
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WHY?

You know what I do when I can't afford something. I don't buy it. Not some people if they can't afford it they just find a way to TAKE IT from someone who can.

And ANY excuse to do so is fair game. Even if it involved you neibors being homeless or dead.


I even heard that just now on the news that these morons were steeling guns and firing at national guard and aid choppers.


Sometimes I think it would be just easier to shoot people like this than to bother with the "justice system"


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post Sep 1 2005, 09:53 AM
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That is just really sad ...

Looting for food or water or even something to wear, might be semi-understandable.

But, home funishings, a new wardrobe ... no way ...
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post Sep 1 2005, 10:51 AM
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Yeah, it shows how really screwed up some people are! They need a good hard (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif)
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post Sep 1 2005, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Sep 1 2005, 04:43)
I even heard that just now on the news that these morons were steeling guns and firing at national guard and aid choppers.

I hadn't heard that, but damn! They are probably pissed off that they had to wait, and think shooting at their rescuers will somehow ... speed ... up ... things. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I just don't understand people sometimes.

Even my cats aren't that stupid. They have never yet confused the litter box with the food bowl.
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post Sep 1 2005, 12:27 PM
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It really taints my heart toward wanting to help these people when I here about stuff like this. As usual I'm sure this is only a few people. I can totally understand looting for food or water, but it's way too early for people to have run out of food by now. I heard one report that Marshall law was enforced; I can't believe it has come to that!
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post Sep 1 2005, 12:34 PM
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First you start off feeling sorry for everyone down there, then you get pissed when you hear about this. I saw clips of people wading through knee high water with big smiles on their faces and huge piles of clothes and electronics. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/bs.gif) It only takes a few to ruin how bad I feel for the rest of the victims.
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post Sep 1 2005, 01:24 PM
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... and, unfortunately, the worst is still yet to come.
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post Sep 1 2005, 01:36 PM
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Install a couple snipers on roof tops. If they are not carrying food/essential needs, shoot them. It won't take long for the looters to get the "right" idea after that starts.....

Ok, maybe a bit extreme, but these idiots are shooting cops. Why put our boys in harms way when you can "reach out and touch someone".

Sorry, it just irritates me when I see people taking advantage of a disaster for their own benefit. When everyone in the area needs to be pulling together, these morons are making it "every man for himself" and becoming part of the problem.

Oh well, I guess we can just keep arresting them.
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post Sep 1 2005, 01:50 PM
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I heard on the radio today that they are sending more troops to the area. I think they said it would make it a total of 25,000ish members of the armed forces to help with "relief", enforce curfews, and control looting.
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post Sep 1 2005, 02:05 PM
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Sorry, it just irritates me when I see people taking advantage of a disaster for their own benefit. When everyone in the area needs to be pulling together, these morons are making it "every man for himself" and becoming part of the problem.


Agree 100%

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First you start off feeling sorry for everyone down there, then you get pissed when you hear about this. I saw clips of people wading through knee high water with big smiles on their faces and huge piles of clothes and electronics.  It only takes a few to ruin how bad I feel for the rest of the victims. 


My point exactly. Actions like this make me hold onto any kind of donation or at least think twice about the amount I would give. I don't think I'm the only person who might feel that way and is why it's such a shame, because I'm sure there are a lot of people that are truly in need. Honestly I do feel for those who have lost so much; I'm not talking about houses, but loved ones.
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post Sep 1 2005, 02:11 PM
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I figure the smart ones already left. New Orleans being swamped isn't exactly a surprise to anyone alive for the last 100 years, so my level of compassion probably isn't as high as it should be. But then to have a cop shot in the head, two cops taking fire, a nurse robbed at a hospital, shots fired at a rescue helicopter, and fires set near the evacuation area, that just burns my ass.
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post Sep 1 2005, 04:45 PM
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Please don't hold back any donations guys, there are old people and poor people there with kids that could not get out, not to any choice of their own. And quite a few made the mistake of "riding it out," not having any idea what lay ahead for them. Lesson learned, however, they do not have food, money or a place to live. Many are hurt or have medical needs on top of this, not to mention the ones who have seen their loved ones die or just plain don't know about their loved ones at all. Some are still on their roofs right now! I'm going to give blood, that is something we can do, and give to the Red Cross or other legitimate charities. Saturday night Larry King will have a show on specifically what we can do to help.

As for the looting, it is a horrible, disrespectful thing in most circumstances. There are some exceptions though, like desparate folks who are hungry and are taking food. I saw one lady taking diapers, there is a difference between her and someone taking a stereo. I think the law should have a double penalty for those like the stereo and using guns for this kind of thing.
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post Sep 1 2005, 04:51 PM
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I really hope that many of the businesses and people who have made a life there think twice about moving back when this is all over. If the area I lived in was in danger of this level of destruction I'd be :leaving:
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post Sep 1 2005, 05:21 PM
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the amazing part is that they have now stopped rescue efforts due to increased violence. What is wrong with these people that they would shoot at the vehicles that are trying to rescue people. It boggles the mind.
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post Sep 1 2005, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (mitchntx @ Sep 1 2005, 03:53)
That is just really sad ...

Looting for food or water or even something to wear, might be semi-understandable.

But, home funishings, a new wardrobe ... no way ...

Heard an interview of a lady in Miss. who was carrying out some food from a looted grocery store. She was in tears (real, or otherwise, I don't know) explaining that her and her family had nothing, and she was really sorry to be taking stuff from the store, but she was hungry. People like that, I feel for. If the store comes back, I hope she returns to try to pay them for some of the food she took.

On another note, I heard that people were looting stores, women, for the most part, were carrying out canned food, water and vegatables, while the men, for the most part were carrying out liquor, beer and cigarettes.

This will be an interesting study in how people act toward one another when those upholding the law aren't around to uphold it, and all the civil support systems are broken down.

Saw a guy in Miss. clearing out the remains from his house that had been hit with the storm surge. He was wearing what looked like a GP100 strapped to his waist. Yep, I'd probably carry my sidearm there, too.
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post Sep 2 2005, 01:12 AM
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It's really sad, but when you look at it the people that stayed are either:

1) Looters that stayed to do so
2) People that wanted to protect their property
3) People to poor to leave

I've seen a lot of people (on other boards) insult those who stayed and make it out like they deserved it. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) That really angers me that people could say such a thing about the victims. Anyone that does so is not an American in my opinion.

BTW, I'd carry a gun concealed there. If you carry it open I'd be afraid of being targeted because I'm a threat and/or for my weapon. I read where one national guardsman was shot in the leg for his rifle. However this has inspired me to purchase a Mossberg 590 once my para sells.
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post Sep 2 2005, 01:50 AM
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The sad thing is that there are "charities" that will either rip off contributors or who won't channel the money into the right areas.


I wish I had the money to physically do something to help. A bunch of gas, a boat, some water and a shotgun and you could probably rescue alot of folks....If you didn't get shot first.
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post Sep 2 2005, 02:15 AM
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BTW, Mathew Patterson (00 Trans AM) lives in New Orleans ....
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post Sep 2 2005, 04:04 AM
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What really got my blood going me tonight was the woman that was interviewed on Fox that complained that the MRE's they were given was "horrible" and that they had no hot food in the Superdome. Or the guy in the French Quarter complaining that the city cut utilities and cellphones. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif)
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post Sep 2 2005, 10:37 PM
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This whole thing is unbelievable and the jerks that are shooting at the police / guardsmen should be shot. I know a little extreme but come on!!! I have a friend who has grew up in Miss. and lives in Ohio now she is sending goods such as toiletries and such to a shelter her mother and sister are volunteering at, over 18,000 refugees .... she is bypassing the charities because they don't always get the goods to the places you want them to go.

Brad and I found that out when we volunteered for a military support group we'd send packages to the troops and they'd sit in the airplane hangers for months possibly never being used by our troops.
God help all the people down there. I hope their suffering will end soon and they get the help they need.
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