The black one

I drove a charger SRT-8 over the summer. Only briefly and at lower speeds, but I must admit I loved everything about it I was able to ascertain from my brief time behind the wheel. Big ol from me for either.

The Charger I drove was black, hard to argue with the presence that thing has. The 300C is hard to discern from the non-SRT, not necessarily a bad thing, just a thing.

The only bad thing I've heard of about the SRT-8 versions over the R/T and base model cars is that they don't have cylinder deactivation. So they're gas guzzlers. A friend of mine has a Magnum R/T and thats why he didn't get the SRT-8, his wife drives it alot and it gets worse milage than the '94 V8 Cougar it replaced.

But if that doesn't matter to you, then get the black one!

The guy who was driving the car for the week (it was an SCCA official vehicle) said it had the little light on the dash to indicate it had gone into cylinder deactivation. On the site it doesn't say that it has that capability, though. The mileage also shows a bit of a drop, too.

Just my opinion but aside from a few select models (C6, CTS, GTO) most GM cars are sorely lacking compared to their competitors. For example, who would buy a Malibu over an Accord for almost the same money? If just flat out being a better car wasn't enough factor in the resale value after 4-5 years and you'd have to be crazy to buy the Chevy.

I used to be a big fan of GM cars but now they make very little that appeals to me. Certainly nothing I can afford. Ford is no better and while Chrysler seems to be doing with with their RWD cars they're all too heavy for my tastes.

Were you there to buy a car or the dealership?

If that particular dealer pissed you off then find another one. There are shitty dealers selling every brand of car. Not really fair to say that all BMW dealers/drivers are assholes because of your negative experience with ONE.

Or even better buy a slightly used (1-2yr old) car from a private party and skip the dealer all together.

not to mention that GTO aren't sold in Canada, and can't be plated here if bought in US.

not the SRT8, then... SRT8's don't shut certain cylinders... full-time 8 cylinder running.

I usually use up cars until they're not worth much anymore so I've never had to worry about resale value. As for the Accord being a better car... maybe, maybe not. Nothing lasts forever! I just don't care about imports very little of the profit stays in the US. Thats why I'm crazy enough to buy American.

I'm with Chris...I keep cars forever, so resale value isn't a driver. Here's a story you may not believe...the WORST car we've ever owned was a US built 1990 Camry. I bought it from the original owner at 60,000 miles, maintained it by the book. The heater bypass tube burned out, the sunroof cables broke, every seal in the darn engine started to leak, (I fixed those), then the head gaskets went, (negating the work on the seals), the transaxle let go, the knock sensor went, all by the time it had 130,000 miles. This doesn't include the axles, brake repairs, and a power antenna that was posessed. Nothing like turning on the radio and watching the antenna pop out of the quarter panel and flop along beside the car!

I'm sure that's true for you but most Americans trade in their cars for something newer alot more often. To them resale value is important. For example, the average price for a 2003 Ford Taurus in my area is ~$9600. Considering the car stickered for ~$22k that's over 50% depreciation in barely 3 years (granted with rebates and incentives it might not be quite so bad)

Even if you do keep the car for a while a 12yr old Honda will fetch at least 2-3 in decent condition while you'll practically be giving a way a domestic car of the same age/conditon.

I also try to buy American when I can but when it comes down to spending my money on a car I'm buying the best one I can afford regardless of where its made. If the Big 2.5 truely want to compete then they either need to make truely competative products or they need to price what they do have accordingly (which they can't afford to do). Continuing to buy their sub-par products will only encorage them to continue building them.

in all honesty I'm like some just mentionned... I honestly don't give a **** about resale value cause I want to keep it for so long.
Hence, this will be replacing a 94 beater civic... so the car has been good for 12 years so far...
That's the reason I want some fun factor out of it, cause I'm thinking on keeping it for 10-15 years.

another pic

Where's Batman and the Joker?

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Alright, I know this is a thread about choosing your new daily driver, but that's a crock of shit.

How do they not look for the good of the members? A pension and good benefits aren't looking after the members?

Did no one hear about IBM cutting ALL their employees pensions to help the bottom line? Oh, but don't worry, you can contribute into a 401k and we'll match 3%... but we're going to setup a special plan for executives to help them more

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/06/ib...grades_pension/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/18/ib...sion_sweetener/

And how about employers who provide little to no contribution to health insurance?

"More and more employers are shifting the growing costs of health coverage to workers and retirees, forcing them to pay high out-of-pocket premiums, deductibles and co-payments. These employers are turning to the Wal-Mart model of health care coverage, which is much too expensive for workers to afford. These workers are being forced to rely on government programs, like Medicare, that state taxpayers pay for. Many studies have recently shown just how much the public pays for Wal-Mart’s refusal to provide affordable health care. For example, Wal-Mart workers in California rely on the state taxpayers for about $32 million annually in health-related services." - http://www.ufcw.org/worker_political_agend..._care/index.cfm

Unions have a bad reputation because that's the way the media portrays them. Who is the media? Big business. Why does big business (Walmart, etc) not like unions? The unions actually speak up when big business pulls moves like trying to change who and when overtime is available: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/19/...ain612694.shtml

I'm not saying that Unions are an end-all, beat-all solution but if you think corporations "look for the good of the employees", you must really have the blinders on.

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Back on-topic... that SRT in Black is fricken sweet

thanks for the comments on the sweetness of the srt8... i forgot to specify about ppl here in QC for unions... it just seems that most government worker and major corporation, ppl here tend to just be freakin lazy and strike for bs reason... instead of just working hard.
Heck, no kidding we have the highest % of unionised companies in North America and the least interest on investers to invest on our economy... because some ppl take everything for granted and the world is owed to them.
Anyways... rant mode off... I work hard for my $, and find it frustrating when lots don't and just bitch about everything.
Back on topic, I'll support companies that work harder, such as DC vs GM, where you can tell that employees give more and are prouder of showing results... not just a bunch of whiners that become lazy and the product in the end is affected w/ QA issues.