Ok, most of our members here know that I build the trackbrackets C5 conversion brackets for 4th gen F-bodies. This kit was originally the Bob Bishop conversion kit, but I bought the rights from Bob (who is no longer affiliated with this product) and am building them to his standards at the same shop that perfected this manufacturing process. I would like to do a batch of either 11 or 22 sets. I'll make some phone calls to get a firm price on this batch (I have to verify the cost of aluminum). We sold the last batch for $279 on the GP. I'll post a firm price as soon as I get it. But it should be close to the last batch.

If you're interested, please post in this thread. Once we get enough buyers lined up, I'll start collecting money and hope to deliver them within 6 weeks (depending on my shop schedule) from that time.

Thanks!

Kevin

The last batch was priced like this:

If we sell 11 sets = $279 per set (Plus shipping)
If we sell 22 sets = $269 per set (Plus shipping)

I get a slight discount for a larger order and I'll pass the savings along.

I'll call and get an update to verify the prices and post when it's final. I'm sure it will be close.



Paid:

Robz71lm7
CCCBock
derek kennedy
BLK01SS
Brian Buell
Dexter

Dexter wants one for his car for now.
1/22

5 or 16 to go.

There is a second list here:

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread....d=1#post3968149

How much do calipers and rotors cost. Once you buy everything(Lines ,pads) is i muck cheaper than the willwood kit. If it is i may be interested.

One of my last customers bought "the rest" for somewhere in the low $400 range.

Kevin when do you anticipate that you'll start collecting money for these?

"Couple weeks"? Maybe less.

The other list is moving growing quickly. We only have 3 sets left (from a batch of 11), or 14 (from a batch of 22).

Thanks guys!

I'm in!

im in as well just post when you want to star collecting money.

I'm in for a set myself. That's 11. I'm going to give it a week to see if we are going to shoot for 22 (the list on the other board is "moving"). If not, we'll go with 11.

Thanks!

Kevin

I hope you don't take this the wrong way but is there a performance or quality advantage to your brackets over the umi brackets? I was on there site and noticed that they made c5 brackets as well but for 40 ish cheaper. But i figured that if your going to all the trouble of getting these made ther must be a difference.

This isn't really the time or the place, but you seem to realize that. There was a discussion a while back, a heated one, about these brackets vs the UMI ones. These brackets, as the name implies, are "track" proven. I'd go so far as to call them an engineered design-since I know actual degreed professionals had a part in these brackets. They have also been track tested as well. Designing highly stressed parts out of aluminum is a lot more tricky than most are aware.

1) Engineered

-quality fasteners held to anal tolerances (they are what holds your brakes and wheel hubs on)

-The right aluminum for the job 6061-T6-corrosion resistance and long fatigue life at high temperatures with a hard anodize coating

-the actual bracket itself is built around the material to minimize stress concentrations and maximize fatigue life while being light

2) Track proven

-no pad taper when pushed to the limits (many steel brackets, let alone aluminum brackets, flex too much causing uneven pad wear)

-they actually were tested before being sold to you!

3) Lab tested for failure

Some of this stuff may not be as important to one that wants blingy brakes for the street and runs low-dusting, ceramic pads to keep their Zaino clean.

Thanks, I don't mind spending the extra money if i feel that it's justified. I just didn't know how to contact him personaly.(Not very good with computers)I hope i didn't offend anyone, I definitly wasn't trying to.

No problem at all, you're fine. You can always click on the username next to a post and click "Send a PM" if you need to contact someone from the board (just in case that info helps you out).

In other words, some of Rob's statements are disputed. I say that in the spirit of disclosure only, not to imply that I disagree with anything he said (I bought the TrackBrackets). I'm a big believer in making fully informed decisions, with no sacred cows and nothing taken on faith.

For more reading on the topic ....

I'd suggest reading the whole thing and drawing your own conclusions.

Of course. I did not mean to upset anyone or misrepresent my opinon as fact, but rather explain why many of us are willing to run these brackets versus others that are readily available. There are quite a few knock-offs out there and some of them are downright scary. One person was selling some made out of 304 stainless that had been swiss cheesed for lightening.

I was honestly skeptical of these brackets when they were made under Bob-Kevin may remember me being critical when I was up at his house. But the hype is warranted IMO for anyone looking for C5 brakes.

IIRC another positive of Trackbrackets is that they don't require irreversible modifications to the '98+ spindle (somewhat sure) and are unique to their respective side (sure on this part). Is this correct Kevin?

I don't think you misrepresented anything, Rob, I was just elaborating a bit and waxing philosophical.

The instructions still mention cutting the LS1 spindles. Is that optional?

If that's the case I'll probably use my LT1 spindles since they are straight and I wouldn't be trashing a desirable set of LS1/'98+ spindles. I did notice my LT1 spindles produce a tighter fit with the wheel hub. With the LS1's they sorta fall out of there.

You still have to cut them.

Yes, there is a right and left side, so there is only one balljoint notch per bracket and each side is slightly compensated for brake pad taper, and each side is also "directional", based on the direction of the load on that bracket.

Any updates?

I'm waiting on a check from the other board and it's off to the machine shop. I'll post as soon as I know more.

We now have 14 sets sold/spoken for. It looks like a batch of 22 is going to work out after all.

I switched over to these as one of my winter mods. I went from the Baer GT+ setup to the Trackbrackets to rid myself of expensive rotors and significant pad taper.

So far after about 10+ track days this year, the Trackbrackets are doing well. Very minimal pad taper (~10-25% of what the Baers had), and the car has 4 days at Summit Point, 2 at Limerock, 3 at Watkins Glen on the current set of HT-10s and they only seem to be a little less than half worn!---And the car is hauling at Summit....didn't get passed by a single car and passed almost every instructor out there at least once (was running in the instructor group). For those who don't know the car, its about 2900 lbs with ~475hp. Wish I had gone right to the trackbrackets years ago instead of spending $440 for replacement rotors and throwing away half worn sets of pads due to the taper from the Baer brackets.

A set for Black01SS per PM.

That puts us at 11 buyers and 4 on the list towards a batch of 22.

I have to withdraw my name from the list the wheels I have do not clear the brakes based on the cut out . also the wheels I have are around a 36 offset so spacers will push out the wheel to far. sorry

What kind of wheels are they?

american racing 200s. They look like the old trans am mustang wheels. I think the guy that orderd them from the shop i went to got the wrong offset. but when i cut out the stencil they touched in the corner were the spokes meet the rim. the wheel is two peices welted togeather.

I would really like to get in on the gp of 17/11's but i just bought a kirkey seat, gw upper control arms, a t2r and am waiting on the strano lowering springs.

I can gladly take you off the list. Or, do you want to grab a set, store them and sell your current wheels for something that clears in the future? It's absolutely your call, but we've been doing these batches when we can, I just can't always promise if/when there will be another run. Let me know and I'll take care of it.

Thanks!

I think at this time im just going to wait. Sorry for the trouble I'm kind of choked. The wheels were the first thing i did to the car. I used to have mustangs and always used cobraR style wheels. I didn't really know all my options and just picked out the ones i like best at my local wheel shop. At the time i was suprised that 9.5's fit without rolling the frenders. If i did it again I'd get ss takeoffs and 17/11 zr1's for pretty much the price I paid for my wheels.

No problem at all.

Kevin

A set for Brian (Z28streetwimp) per PM.

I PM'd you, but put me down for a set.
Bock

Gotcha. You'll get the set that Boston decided to pass on. So, we've got you covered. Thanks Bock.

We're at 22 sets now (here and on the other board), so I'll start gathering up money soon and we'll get this batch going.

Thanks everyone!

Kevin

I'm here now! Any idea on when the brackets will be available? Just curious as I haven't started gathering up all the other stuff I need yet.

Thanks Kevin...

As soon as I get all the funds gathered up and to the shop, we'll be under way. I'm guessing a few weeks or so at this point (3-5, sorry for the delays, but shop schedules and however long it takes to get the cash from everyone will set the ultimate time frame).

This thread has been quiet. Any updates??

Bock

We're closing out the other GP list on Friday. Speed Specialty was trying to get a batch of 33 together. I'm going to get the shop rolling ASAP after that. Sorry for the delay. It's like the wheel GP, get orders, get orders, get orders, get cash and rock 'n' roll.

Anyone who hasn't already paid, get with me or I'll send PM's to give you payment info.

Thanks!

Kevin, would it be too much trouble to provide a listing on the first post of the paids (like you did for the wheels)? Maybe just the ones from our list, not Speed's customers. It helps everyone know that you got their payment, and encourages the others to get it in gear. TIA

Bock

That was on my "to do" list. I'll get it started.

Awful quiet out there.....

Bock

Yes it is. I'm on hold until I get the payment from my retailer. It should be coming soon, but not soon enough.

I noticed that only two people show paid from the "non-retailer" side.

Im hoping that is an old stat, everybody should be paid up at this point.

Bock



I have been trying to be patient hoping the stuff was gonna show up in time to install it prior to my wild month of 5 events in Mid October/early Nov.

Unless you have some words of wisdom, I'll need to rebuild my LS1 brakes next week.

Keep us posted.

Bock

Bock,

I have to do some front end work this weekend, but unless I find severely tapered pads or a totally shot hub I'll probably put off the C5 installation until winter. I'll know in a day or two.

Assuming I won't need to install them right now, I could send my set to you and have Kevin ship your set to me when it's available. You'd be out one extra shipping charge, but you'd avoid wasting time and money on rebuilding what you have.

Sorry to dangle a carrot that I might have to pull away, but you don't have much time and I need to do whatever I'm going to do soon too.

Thanks for the great offer. My first big event is October 14 weekend and I will have no time to sort out a new brake install at this point. I think Im better off sticking with what I know for this go around.

Looks like I will be doing my C5 install this winter as well.

Hmm. Seems to me I had some tapering on the rears last time I looked..... I better look into that too.

Thanks Sean.

bock

I would really like to have a set af these brackets. Are any still available?

It looks like we're "full". However, I'll send you a PM that might be helpful.

Anyone still interested on a spot on the already full Trackbracket GP?????

I have a spot on the Trackbracket GP and an emergency may make me have to back out.
I really hate doing that and I wouldn't want to leave anyone hanging.

If anyone is interested in getting in on the GP, please let me know or Trackbird and I'll gladly give you my spot on the GP

Thanks guys

Thanks Joe, I contacted the next person on the list and will post if they pass or not.

Thanks!

Kevin

If a spot is available on this purchase, I want a set. I've just developed issues with the 1LE conversion on my 4th gen Camaro track car. Please let me know what the status is.