Blainefab
Oct 5 2006, 09:42 PM
The Blaine Fabrication Delrin shift knob is available for C4/C5 and 4thgen Fbody fitments, and others if thread size and shifter dimensions are supplied. I stock the following diameters in black Delrin:
1 1/8" : for small hands
1 1/4" : for average size hands - the knob in the pic above is this size
1 1/2" : for large hands
My standard height is 4", with the knob sunk on the shifter stalk about the same as the OEM knob, so it will stick up about 2" higher than the OEM knob, bringing it closer to the level of the drivers hands on the steering wheel.
Customs are available: other diameters, white instead of black Delrin, other thread sizes, taller (or shorter). These are made to order - if I can make it with stock material and tooling it is stock price, if I have to puchase material or tooling then it is custom price
Introductory pricing:
stock material and fitment : $55 plus shipping plus CA sales tax for shipments to CA address.
custom material or fitment : $65 plus shipping plus CA sales tax for shipments to CA address.
Regards,
Alan Blaine
Blaine Fabrication
831 427-3296
mitchntx
Oct 6 2006, 12:55 AM
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Oct 5 2006, 04:42 PM)

4thgen Fbody fitments
1 1/2" : for large hands
Introductory pricing:
stock material and fitment : $45 plus shipping plus CA sales tax for shipments to CA address.
Regards,
Alan Blaine
I am assuming a B&M Ripper has stock 4th gen fitment ...
How do I pay for this?
marka
Oct 6 2006, 02:01 AM
Howdy,
Sweet!
I'll take one for a 4th gen shifter (16x1.5 thread), 1.5" diameter, your standard 4" height you mention in your post, in white delrin. If white is gonna take a long time to get in, black would be ok.
Should I call you with a credit card or send a check or paypal or ?? I'd like to get it as soon as you can make it and UPS/FedEx can drive it over here. :-)
Thanks Alan!
Mark
GlennCMC70
Oct 6 2006, 02:14 AM
mitch - you have an email from me.
Blainefab
Oct 6 2006, 10:27 AM
Mitch, Mark - Thank You!
I need your ZIP codes to calc shipping cost, then PayPal to ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com is easiest.
Post your ZIP here, or a PM, or email me at the above addy. I'll return with a total cost. I can ship both on Wed of next week if I get the PayPals tomorrow.
For small stuff like this, USPS Parcel Post is about 1/2 the cost of UPS gnd - let me know if you have a preference for UPS, else I will use Parcel Post.
Mitch - Yes, the Ripper uses OEM thread
Mark - the white will take no longer than black - my supplier has white in stock.
Thanks and Regards,
Alan
GlennCMC70
Oct 6 2006, 12:21 PM
i think Mitch will be ordering 2 , one for me amd one for himself. i want mine in black and also for a 4th gen.
poSSum
Oct 6 2006, 12:37 PM
Is there a functional reason to go with these knobs or is it more the "coolness" factor to have C6R style shift knobs?
I have the factory Hurst leather on both of mine and don't have much trouble shifting.
Teutonic Speedracer
Oct 6 2006, 12:56 PM
QUOTE (poSSum @ Oct 6 2006, 08:37 AM)

Is there a functional reason to go with these knobs or is it more the "coolness" factor to have C6R style shift knobs?
I have the factory Hurst leather on both of mine and don't have much trouble shifting.
I was kind of wondering the same.
marka
Oct 6 2006, 02:38 PM
Howdy,
I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, I've got the round leather ball on the top of my shifter and I don't find it particularly comfortable. I think a shift knob like this might work better.
And I also think it'll be tricker, so even if its not better I'll still look cooler than Sam. :-)
Mark
firehawkclone
Oct 6 2006, 03:16 PM
Its to get the shifter closer to the steering wheel, basically.
GlennCMC70
Oct 6 2006, 03:57 PM
QUOTE (poSSum @ Oct 6 2006, 07:37 AM)

Is there a functional reason to go with these knobs or is it more the "coolness" factor to have C6R style shift knobs?
I have the factory Hurst leather on both of mine and don't have much trouble shifting.
these were around long before the C6R. Lou has had them @ LGM for a few years for the C5. i tried to get them to make me one for an F-body and was always left w/ empty promises.
steve-d
Oct 6 2006, 04:04 PM
Yeah, he still has 'em for the C5/C6 for $65.95 each. Never anything for the F-Body, however. Better to get one from one of our sponsors.
Steve
GlennCMC70
Oct 6 2006, 04:06 PM
all hail Blaine Fab.
jeffburch
Oct 6 2006, 04:12 PM
QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Oct 6 2006, 10:57 AM)

QUOTE (poSSum @ Oct 6 2006, 07:37 AM)

Is there a functional reason to go with these knobs or is it more the "coolness" factor to have C6R style shift knobs?
I have the factory Hurst leather on both of mine and don't have much trouble shifting.
these were around long before the C6R. Lou has had them @ LGM for a few years for the C5. i tried to get them to make me one for an F-body and was always left w/ empty promises.
I have one of these and have used it for several years. Mine was from hardbar.net and was a copy of what Pratt&Miller were doing. The reason behind the material choice was supposedly delrin doesn't conduct heat.
Get in the car on a hot steaming day and the knob isn't hot. In a race car with gloves on it shouldn't be a factor. I put it in the cmc car because I had it left over from my black car and the coolness factor. Also the vertical grip idea makes some sense. I wish I had time to tell the story about finding the tap needed to fit it to a 3rd gen. If any need this tap let me know.
jb
Blainefab
Oct 6 2006, 06:46 PM
Thanks for the orders guys!
I've seen these on lots of race cars, pro and club - keeping the shift hand closer to the wheel should be a good thing - less time off the controls. I tried a shorter than stock C5 Ripper on my FRC and it about killed my wrist from the increased effort. The taller arm on the Fbod seems to compensate for the lever ratio changes on the aftermarket shifters.
Delrin definitely doesn't transmit heat like metal does. Maybe in a long race it would matter, I don't recall my Ripper hammerhandle getting hot.
I think the biggest difference is that the hand is oriented vertically rather than horizontal like the traditional T handle shifters. Vertical does seems a more natural position, with less twist on the wrist. The OEM cueball I found terrible - hand would slip off.
The Delrin knob is a lot lighter than the hammerhandle - I can feel the mass of that big lump of aluminum when I shift - I don't know if less mass will end up making it more or less likely to hit the desired gear, it is probably going to be more a function of how well the driver adapts a technique for using the vertical hand position.
Honestly I've not used one of these - I made the one in the pic for the customer I built that car for - he used it and liked it, so I got a variety of materials that made sense. Nothing sold on the mail lists so I put the box away and forgot about it till Mark's post.
Thanks again, I'm looking forward to feedback on how these work for you all.
Regards,
Alan Blaine
Blaine Fabrication
831 427-3296
mitchntx
Oct 6 2006, 08:10 PM
Payment made ...
Thanks and looking forward to getting these pieces.
marka
Oct 6 2006, 08:20 PM
Howdy,
QUOTE (mitchntx @ Oct 6 2006, 04:10 PM)

Payment made ...
Thanks and looking forward to getting these pieces.
Yes, ditto on both counts. :-)
Mark
Stang Killer
Oct 6 2006, 08:53 PM
77065 please
poSSum
Oct 6 2006, 09:00 PM
If you're running a batch you can make me a pair in black to throw in the box with the hood. What other cool little "gotta have" dodads do you make/sell?
Blainefab
Oct 6 2006, 09:53 PM
QUOTE (Stang Killer @ Oct 6 2006, 03:53 PM)

77065 please
Parcel Post is $4 to 77065 so add that to $45 or $55 and PayPal to ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com.
Indicate dia and color, and ship to address on the PayPal order
Thanks!
Regards,
Alan Blaine
Blaine Fabrication
Blainefab
Oct 6 2006, 10:16 PM
QUOTE (poSSum @ Oct 6 2006, 04:00 PM)

If you're running a batch you can make me a pair in black to throw in the box with the hood. What other cool little "gotta have" dodads do you make/sell?
Art - Will do - you want black 1 1/2" dia also?
Off the top of my head, stuff I've mentioned here:
Carbon hood, roof
aluminum Ttop filler panels
shift knobs
Koni hat tool
rear weight jacks for 2.5" ID springs (cut 'n paste required)
spacers for coilovers (gets front adjuster rings back to within 1/8" of each other for CMC)
spacers for wheels
spacers for OEM rear spring perches (and toss the floppy weight jacks)
Lexan rear spoiler
Setrab oil cooler bracket
I just hooked up with the wholesale arm of a major aftermarket retailer, have access to a huge catalog of parts. I can't quite compete pricewize with their retail prices, but charge only actual shipping and no handling charge. I also can't compete with the instant online order/ship process. I got the line mainly to support my race buildups but I'd like to broaden my customer base so if you have a need for something run it past me and I'll give you a price/delivery quote. ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com
Other goodies in the works:
4th gen front airdam/splitter undertra
race steering column
and of course custom fabrication is my business, so let me know what you need
Regards,
Alan
poSSum
Oct 6 2006, 11:03 PM
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Oct 6 2006, 05:16 PM)

Art - Will do - you want black 1 1/2" dia also?
Regards,
Alan
Sure, let's go with the 1 1/2" dia Camaro thread.
JKnight
Oct 6 2006, 11:59 PM
QUOTE
4th gen front airdam/splitter undertray
I'm cobbling something together on Chris' car at the moment but I'd love to see your solution. I'm sure it's better than what I'm creating. And I think that there's definitely a market for it.
Jason
Stang Killer
Oct 7 2006, 02:47 AM
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Oct 6 2006, 05:16 PM)

and of course custom fabrication is my business, so let me know what you need
Regards,
Alan
Something for the gas pedal for heel to reasons.
mitchntx
Oct 8 2006, 03:12 PM
Ever see the plastic gas pedal a guy built years ago over on LS1.com?
It was a piece of plastic that had "LS1" machined in the middle.
The guy had access to a CNC machine and made about 200 of them.
I still have mine ...
trackbird
Oct 8 2006, 04:08 PM
QUOTE (mitchntx @ Oct 8 2006, 11:12 AM)

Ever see the plastic gas pedal a guy built years ago over on LS1.com?
It was a piece of plastic that had "LS1" machined in the middle.
The guy had access to a CNC machine and made about 200 of them.
I still have mine ...
I had one of those, sold it to Pimpmaro and he loves it. I wear work boots a lot and drive with the seat all the way back, so I didn't have the "extra" room to put something on the gas pedal and still drive comfortably. It looked like it would have worked very well, if it would have worked for me.
firehawkclone
Oct 8 2006, 05:04 PM
QUOTE (Stang Killer @ Oct 6 2006, 07:47 PM)

QUOTE (Blainefab @ Oct 6 2006, 05:16 PM)

and of course custom fabrication is my business, so let me know what you need
Regards,
Alan
Something for the gas pedal for heel to reasons.
A small piece of aluminun with 2 self tapper's with grip tape!
nape
Oct 9 2006, 01:35 AM
Alan,
Any chance you know if a 3rd gen (T5) Hurst shifter is the same thread?
I just bought a spare T5 and it comes with a Hurst shifter without a knob, this ought to fit the bill well
Blainefab
Oct 9 2006, 10:10 AM
QUOTE (nape @ Oct 8 2006, 08:35 PM)

Alan,
Any chance you know if a 3rd gen (T5) Hurst shifter is the same thread?
I just bought a spare T5 and it comes with a Hurst shifter without a knob, this ought to fit the bill well

TJ - I have a 3rd gen at the shop (2 actually), I'll check tomorrow. Just to make sure, see if your stock knob fits the Hurst.
Sam Strano
Oct 9 2006, 08:20 PM
I used a 4th gen knob on a 3rd gen Ripper in my '91. I think you're just fine.
rmackintosh
Oct 9 2006, 08:30 PM
I will likely get a black one......for a PRO5 shifter.....
Blainefab
Oct 10 2006, 11:20 AM
QUOTE (JKnight @ Oct 6 2006, 06:59 PM)

QUOTE
4th gen front airdam/splitter undertray
I'm cobbling something together on Chris' car at the moment but I'd love to see your solution. I'm sure it's better than what I'm creating. And I think that there's definitely a market for it.
Jason
It's starting to take shape shape, is going to be a real challenge to meet my design goals:
-adjustable height
-modular
-affordable
I've quit talking about dates
QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Oct 9 2006, 03:20 PM)

I used a 4th gen knob on a 3rd gen Ripper in my '91. I think you're just fine.
Thanks, Sam
I also checked a STi and Miata that are in the shop - they are a different thread than any of the GM cars. I have a car with a Ford drivetrain in the shop too, I should check it.
QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Oct 9 2006, 03:30 PM)

I will likely get a black one......for a PRO5 shifter.....
Randy - Paypal me $45 + $4 parcel post and I'll make one for you too. Let me know what diameter.
Regards,
Alan Blaine
Blaine Fabrication
831 427-3296
sgarnett
Oct 10 2006, 12:20 PM
QUOTE (poSSum @ Oct 6 2006, 08:37 AM)

Is there a functional reason to go with these knobs or is it more the "coolness" factor to have C6R style shift knobs?
I have the factory Hurst leather on both of mine and don't have much trouble shifting.
It should be a lot more comfortable to shift when using the stupid driver's cupholder (ie when a passenger is using the good cupholder)
Blainefab
Oct 11 2006, 11:05 AM
Here is a 1.5" next to a stock cueball. Tops of shifter shafts are at the same level:
Mitch and Mark, your orders will ship later this AM.
mitchntx
Oct 11 2006, 12:58 PM
Now, if I could just figure out how to convert a stock B/W T56 to a sequential shift ....
marka
Oct 11 2006, 02:38 PM
Howdy,
QUOTE (mitchntx @ Oct 11 2006, 08:58 AM)

Now, if I could just figure out how to convert a stock B/W T56 to a sequential shift ....
Hell, I'd be happy if I could convince it to shift at all!
:-)
I remember seeing a shifter quite a while ago that converted sequential shift motions on the shifter into the proper motions to shift a tranny normally... I _think_ it was for a toploader. Not sure if such a beast exists for a T5 / T56 style tranny.
Mark
Blainefab
Oct 11 2006, 08:31 PM
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Oct 6 2006, 04:53 PM)

QUOTE (Stang Killer @ Oct 6 2006, 03:53 PM)

77065 please
Parcel Post is $4 to 77065 so add that to $45 or $55 and PayPal to ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com.
Indicate dia and color, and ship to address on the PayPal order
Thanks!
Regards,
Alan Blaine
Blaine Fabrication
Stang Killer - Did you send me an order? I delete a lot of spam and may have mistaken it if so.
marka
Oct 11 2006, 08:39 PM
Howdy,
QUOTE (marka @ Oct 11 2006, 10:38 AM)

I remember seeing a shifter quite a while ago that converted sequential shift motions on the shifter into the proper motions to shift a tranny normally... I _think_ it was for a toploader. Not sure if such a beast exists for a T5 / T56 style tranny.
Here it is:
http://www.renagate.com/info.htmAnd it doesn't look like it'll work without an external shift rod tranny...
Mark
Blainefab
Oct 11 2006, 08:50 PM
QUOTE (Stang Killer @ Oct 6 2006, 09:47 PM)

QUOTE (Blainefab @ Oct 6 2006, 05:16 PM)

and of course custom fabrication is my business, so let me know what you need
Regards,
Alan
Something for the gas pedal for heel to reasons.
I got a batch of them years ago from a friend who was building hi tech processing tanks and fume hoods. He called them the "El Pedal". He moved on to a different job w/o a CNC cell and quit making them. I'll take a look at the product and see if it makes sense to make them. My problem is that at a $20 sale price I would need to be able to make them in <15min ea, and that wouldn't happen unless I was making lots of them. I don't know if there is a market for 50 of these things, esp if there is a rice/dress up shop selling something similar for $15.
QUOTE (marka @ Oct 11 2006, 03:39 PM)

Howdy,
QUOTE (marka @ Oct 11 2006, 10:38 AM)

I remember seeing a shifter quite a while ago that converted sequential shift motions on the shifter into the proper motions to shift a tranny normally... I _think_ it was for a toploader. Not sure if such a beast exists for a T5 / T56 style tranny.
Here it is:
http://www.renagate.com/info.htmAnd it doesn't look like it'll work without an external shift rod tranny...
Mark
Depending an exchange rate, at $580AU it may be affordable - I wonder how well it works? I think a small close ratio 4sp could work well in an Fbod, and with a 7.25" clutch, shed about 100#. That would be an interesting project. I once designed/built a bracket that adapted a TKO to a C4 Corvette Cbeam. It held up to 550+ rwhp and was much lighter/cheaper than the ZF it replaced.
mitchntx
Oct 11 2006, 10:48 PM
I've seen that site somewhere in a life long gone. I had forgotten about it altogether.
But, that would be a sweet deal ...
Alan .. put on your Mad Hatter swag and make it so ...
GlennCMC70
Oct 12 2006, 01:40 AM
pic please. email it to me if you need to.
Glenn_Landrum@msn.com
Blainefab
Oct 12 2006, 06:27 PM
QUOTE (Stang Killer @ Oct 6 2006, 03:53 PM)

77065 please
Stang Killer - Your knob is in the mail today
QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Oct 9 2006, 03:30 PM)

I will likely get a black one......for a PRO5 shifter.....
Randy - Yours is in the mail today
Blainefab
Oct 12 2006, 06:39 PM
Shift knob install instructions for gen3/4 Fbody:
-remove OEM knob: twist CCW to unscrew. Dispose of properly or give to your cat.
-measure 1.5" down from top of shifter shaft and make a mark with a sharpie or tape.
-the BF delrin knob has .6" of shallow/no threads, then .9" of threads deep in the hole.
-screw the knob CW onto the shaft. When it gets past the shallow/no thread part you will meet some resistance, a gloved hand helps turn the knob. Screw it down till it bottoms and the resistance suddenly increases. Tighten hand tight only, do not use tools. The bottom of the knob should be within +- 1/8" of the mark on the shaft.
Regards,
Alan Blaine
Blaine Fabrication
821 427-3296
rmackintosh
Oct 12 2006, 08:38 PM
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Oct 12 2006, 01:39 PM)

Shift knob install instructions for gen3/4 Fbody:
-remove OEM knob: twist CCW to unscrew. Dispose of properly or give to your cat.
-measure 1.5" down from top of shifter shaft and make a mark with a sharpie or tape.
-the BF delrin knob has .6" of shallow/no threads, then .9" of threads deep in the hole.
-screw the knob CW onto the shaft. When it gets past the shallow/no thread part you will meet some resistance, a gloved hand helps turn the knob. Screw it down till it bottoms and the resistance suddenly increases. Tighten hand tight only, do not use tools. The bottom of the knob should be within +- 1/8" of the mark on the shaft.
Regards,
Alan Blaine
Blaine Fabrication
821 427-3296
I had no idea it would be so complicated....I may not have the fab skills to pull it off.....
Seriously....Thanks Alan!
mitchntx
Oct 13 2006, 10:11 PM
Shift knob arrived today. Very nice piece.
Install took less than 4 hours.
nape
Oct 13 2006, 11:47 PM
Payment sent, I guessed on the shipping, but it ought to be more then enough. Thanks again!
Blainefab
Oct 15 2006, 08:57 AM
Wow - I've sold 12 of these things in 10 days, they must work! ;-)
I'm tooling up for the Subaru STi and Miata, too. And a reminder that I can make them for C4/C5 Corvette too. Same price as Fbod - $45 for black 1.25 or 1.5, $55 for custom size or white Delrin.
Regards,
Alan Blaine
Blaine Fabrication
831 427-3296
rmackintosh
Oct 15 2006, 07:22 PM
Put mine on yesterday....fits nice....it is about 1 1/2" taller than my Kragen's special I had before.....can't wait to see if I like the position of it...it feels nice.
Thanks Alan!
Rob Hood
Oct 16 2006, 03:26 AM
QUOTE
mitchntx Posted Oct 13 2006, 03:11 PM
Shift knob arrived today. Very nice piece.
Install took less than 4 hours.
Silly me....had to have the manufacturer watch me install mine...
marka
Oct 16 2006, 03:44 AM
Howdy,
Mine was waiting for me in the mailbox when I got home.
Installation was harder than the black knobs, since I had to avert my eyes when screwing it on, but after a couple hours screwing around with my welding helmet shield, I got it done.
:-)
Seriously, its on and feels nice. Alan, do you use a CNC lathe for these or are they hand done? If hand done... Good job on the radii! Very even & smooth. Very nicely made.
Mark
(and its white, so I can tell anyone that drives the car "Shift it with the big white stick" and nobody will ever be confused.)
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