 GRM UTCC - VOTE FOR ME!!, Fellow FRRAXer trying for the Ultimate Track Car Challenge |
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 May 31 2007, 02:39 AM
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Experienced Member  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62  |
Yup...
Vote for me please. Time to put those subies/evos/mr2s DOWN. YOU WILL RESPECT MAH V8 AUTHORITY!!! hehehehe http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2579608 Costas cars and such... |
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Jun 1 2007, 12:53 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
More info on the car and pics.
http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch42.htm Lotsa views and no posts....you guys don't like 4th gen Trans-Am cars???? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Costas cars and such... |
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Jun 1 2007, 01:22 PM
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Collo Rosso Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,220 Joined: 3-August 05 From: San Antonio, TX Member No.: 839 |
Looks like a fun ride! I say throw some lights and turn signals on it and make it your beater, but hey that's just me (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Jun 1 2007, 01:36 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
5 stars!
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Jun 1 2007, 02:49 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,876 Joined: 3-July 04 From: Pearland, Texas Member No.: 385 |
Man, that'd make a nice CP car. ;-)
Good catch! |
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Jun 1 2007, 04:12 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
Thanks for the stars Stan!
Gene...it will be AP or CP legal depening on what weight I want to run. I'll have to add a BUNCH to run CP unless I use a smaller motor or something. However I'm sure it'll make it to some cone-dodging events! As well as DEs, roadracing and open road racing. And oh yes, I've thought about making quickbrackets for lights and a horn and being able to drive it on the street. Heh heh. Costas cars and such... |
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Jun 1 2007, 06:09 PM
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I suck at the auto-x :( Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,421 Joined: 21-April 05 From: TX Member No.: 727 |
QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jun 1 2007, 11:12 AM)  Thanks for the stars Stan! Gene...it will be AP or CP legal depening on what weight I want to run. I'll have to add a BUNCH to run CP unless I use a smaller motor or something. However I'm sure it'll make it to some cone-dodging events! As well as DEs, roadracing and open road racing. And oh yes, I've thought about making quickbrackets for lights and a horn and being able to drive it on the street. Heh heh. Costas cars and such... You should bring it to an practice auto-x over the summer and let me drive it (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . Please? I'll even wear Witchdoctor yellow. |
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Jun 11 2007, 03:05 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
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Jun 11 2007, 04:03 AM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 209 Joined: 6-August 05 From: Cumberland, Md Member No.: 841 |
black IS fast
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Jun 11 2007, 04:35 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,511 Joined: 14-November 04 From: Homer Glen, IL Member No.: 540 |
That's hot... no really, that's going to be really hot in Texas sun. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif)
Lookin' good though! |
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Jun 11 2007, 08:24 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
Scratcher was accepted for the innaugural GRM UTCC.
Costas cars and such... edit: because I can't spell when I'm smiling... This post has been edited by Shortcutsleeping: Jun 12 2007, 01:15 AM |
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Jun 11 2007, 09:14 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8 |
sweet.
i hate you. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Jun 12 2007, 12:44 AM
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Chapter 11 Racing Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,166 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Houston, Republic of Texas Member No.: 207 |
dude... i can see divorce in your future....
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Jun 12 2007, 01:25 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,876 Joined: 3-July 04 From: Pearland, Texas Member No.: 385 |
QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ Jun 11 2007, 07:44 PM) dude... i can see divorce in your future.... Naah, she'll probably hop behind the wheel and he won't be able to get her out. ;-) |
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Jun 19 2007, 10:15 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
Bored?
Updates to read, laugh at, make fun of, etc. (and yes....I spent 25$ on a gallon of black rustoleum for chapter 74....) Chapter 75: Entering the Grassroots Motorsports Ultimate Track Car Challenge (June 2007) Chapter 76: Thrash 1 (16 June 2007) Chapter 77: Body Check (17 June 2007) Costas cars and such... |
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Jun 19 2007, 10:52 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 471 Joined: 13-December 05 From: North Olmsted, OH Member No.: 1,010 |
The car is looking awesome! good Luck! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)
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Jun 19 2007, 11:16 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8 |
where do you live? need any help?
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Jun 20 2007, 12:19 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
Thanks guys.. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
I live in San Antonio. Five guys (WDMS Crewdogs, two of them on this board) are showing up Friday night for a two-day thrash. With any luck I'll be at a dyno shop the following weekend doing break-in and baseline tuning. After that, I'll be pulling every string I can find to get some track time and get the suspension/aero/brakes sorted out. If I get a weekend or a day up at MSR-C you wanna come help? The car will be setup with a DL1 and an LCD dash (DASH2) and I've got IR tire sensors (only 3...so I gotta do one tire at a time) so hopefully I can dial in the suspension pretty quick. But there will be tons to do...reliability first, speed second (normally safety first, but I've got that covered). I really really want to do well at the UTCC. I've always learned new tracks pretty fast, but this car is gonna be a whole lot quicker than anything else I've driven (s2000, atlantic, ff, asedan, ITS, etc). Hopefully I can get on top of the learning curve quickly and lay the f-body smackdown at VIR. Costas cars and such... |
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Jun 20 2007, 12:27 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8 |
if you guys do a date at MSR-C i would be offended if i wasnt give a heads up. i would love to come out and help. i've worked w/ LG there w/ thier Trans Am and World Challenge cars. that thing should be wellinto the teens there.
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Jun 20 2007, 11:41 AM
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Nothing says 'I love you.' like a box of Hydroshoks Group: Moderators Posts: 5,284 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 4 |
Warren Motorsports Complex is 15 minutes from MSR-C. The place is at your disposal if needed.
FYI ... MSR-C has a shop there with a dyno if needed and Performance Speed Tech is a full service speed shop. Let me know when you are coming out and I'll be there to fetch wrenches. Burgers at Grumps is a must. |
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Jun 21 2007, 10:14 PM
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newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 10-May 07 Member No.: 1,783 |
Off topic: What are Carrera shocks?
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Jun 22 2007, 04:52 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
QUOTE (gunslinger @ Jun 21 2007, 05:14 PM) Off topic: What are Carrera shocks? Shocks from a 911, of course!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif) http://www.roadcatalogs.com/store/carrerashocks.html Evolved mainly from circle-track stuff, very durable and not too expensive. The good ones are owner-rebuildable and owner-valvable. Costas cars and such... |
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Jun 22 2007, 11:53 AM
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Collo Rosso Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,220 Joined: 3-August 05 From: San Antonio, TX Member No.: 839 |
I was checking out the pictures of the body on and I'm like "wow, those are some great panel gaps! Oh wait, it's all one piece! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Jun 22 2007, 06:05 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,766 Joined: 10-April 04 From: New Orleans, LA Member No.: 303 |
Any time you feel like testing out that "learning ability" on a new track, come on over to No Problem Raceway. It's just SE of baton Rouge, or about 6-7 hours from you. There are regular track days with 20 minute sessions for $115 for the whole day, usually on Sundays.
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Jun 22 2007, 07:07 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
I'd love to!
I know some racers who have played out there and they speak highly of the place. Unfortunately it is a little far for the moment and I have access to some closer places and need the shake down time (and not windshield-of-the-truck time! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ). However, I'll try and get out there as soon as I can. Costas cars and such... |
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Jun 25 2007, 02:01 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
It just keeps getting closer...
http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch78.htm It was a working weekend thanks to the WDMS crew. Nick (01 Z28 FStawk) and Gary (86 Z28, CMC car) are both regulars here...thanks to both of them and ALL the gang!!! Costas cars and such... |
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Jun 25 2007, 04:17 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jun 24 2007, 10:01 PM) It just keeps getting closer... http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch78.htm It was a working weekend thanks to the WDMS crew. Nick (01 Z28 FStawk) and Gary (86 Z28, CMC car) are both regulars here...thanks to both of them and ALL the gang!!! Costas cars and such... Awesome car. I hope to build something like that someday. What do you think the final mass will come in at? |
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Jun 25 2007, 04:24 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 997 Joined: 28-June 05 From: North Dallas, TX Member No.: 791 |
QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jun 24 2007, 09:01 PM) It just keeps getting closer... http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch78.htm It was a working weekend thanks to the WDMS crew. Nick (01 Z28 FStawk) and Gary (86 Z28, CMC car) are both regulars here...thanks to both of them and ALL the gang!!! Costas cars and such... Paul, I am really enjoying the pics of the buildup. It is looking really, really good! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) |
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Jul 16 2007, 01:05 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch79.htm
The UTCC is getting close and I am getting nervous. Lots to do and precious little time to do it. Cross your fingers... Steve, Figure 2100lbs with half fuel and no driver. That's my target. Should be very close to that. Costas cars and such... This post has been edited by Shortcutsleeping: Jul 16 2007, 01:06 AM |
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Jul 16 2007, 02:23 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
Name's Stan, but steve is close (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . Actually Stan is my nickname, Austin is my real name.
2100 seems to be in line with this tube frame only car. He is running an Aluminum LSX with C5 corners, shortened tq tube, and diff. He doesn't have a full body, but has some aluminum. The LSX is about 100 lbs lighter than a gen 1. The independent rear might be similar in mass. You have the glass body and I have no idea how much it weights. His is 1980 lbs. (IMG:http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/StanIROCZ/DSC01274.jpg) (IMG:http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/StanIROCZ/DSC01269.jpg) (IMG:http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/StanIROCZ/DSC01263.jpg) (IMG:http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/StanIROCZ/DSC01264.jpg) This post has been edited by StanIROCZ: Jul 16 2007, 02:33 AM |
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Jul 16 2007, 03:38 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
DOH!
Sorry Stan!! I've seen that car on the Net before. It's Kinsler's kid if I'm not mistaken. Not sure what HP he has but those are some REALLY short control arms. I'd love to run IRS, but at the power/grip I have it'd be iffy and for trans-am/GT1 it is verbotten anyway. Killer fabwork on that car and I'd love to run with him sometime. Wonder what kind of power he has...any ideas? Needs real tires <snicker> (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) It stopped raining...wh00p! http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch79a.htm Costas cars and such... |
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Jul 16 2007, 04:07 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
Yeah, Kinsler kid. About 21 years old and still in college. Built it in one year. Made me very jealous. Many parts of the fabrication were very impressive. The only thing I can really knock him on is not using a tubing bender more. He actually was a member here and sold his 4th gen 1LE on this forum to someone in Texas to fund this project…. It wasn’t you was it?!?
Last year he had a stock Zo6 motor with the injection stacks, so that puts him at maybe 425 HP or so. Over the winter he bought a stroker 427, can’t remember if it was based off of the LS1 or LS2 block, but it should be nasty. I’m guessing about 600 HP. I haven’t talked to him in a while to see how everything went. He was developing a new set of stacks to go with it. So more grip requires longer arms is what you are saying? He’s only ran street tires that I know of so far. Took me for a ride down a couple local freeways… hang on for dear life. I'd like to build something like yours or his someday. |
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Jul 16 2007, 04:25 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
Stan,
Thanks for the additional info...wow, 600hp @ 2000lbs in that thing would be a terror! I didn't buy his 1LE, mine are both FStock 3rd gens (insert weak-nut tpi joke here! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ). Don't get me wrong, I'm speaking in generalities. It is POSSIBLE to get more grip with a stock arm (of course), but the longer the arm the better. They don't run such positive offset wheels for brake cooling! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif) The tires on his car aren't streets, they are r-compound kumhos. Granted, they aren't 710s, but they aren't streets either. Interesting you mention building a car like mine, several folks have mentioned it recently. Frank (helping me build, lives up the street, been racing buddies for a looooong time, awesome welder/fabricator) and I took a good look this past Saturday at making a copy of my car for him. Mine uses all circle-track parts (ever priced a corner on a riley or a rocketsports???) and really wouldnt be all that hard to duplicate. Derhaag still makes bodies for the 4th gen t/a+gt1 cars or you could convert it to c5 or c6 I would imagine. Food for thought. Costas cars and such... |
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Jul 16 2007, 05:51 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
Probably more of a wet dream than anything else. My wife-to-be will probably prevent it from ever happening.
It has to be expensive and time consuming to make something like this, but then think about how much time we spending making something work around the constraints of the existing car. Or how much time and money we spend to make the existing car light. To have a clean slate to make things the way you want would be nice. Why the positive offset wheels? Wouldn’t that make it harder to have long arms? I just assumed that long arms would reduce the change in IC and somehow make the system more stable. |
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Jul 16 2007, 07:42 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,528 Joined: 13-January 07 From: Solebury, Pa. Member No.: 1,589 |
QUOTE (StanIROCZ @ Jul 16 2007, 12:07 PM) Yeah, Kinsler kid. About 21 years old and still in college. So I guess that explains his daddy's (grandpa's??) ITB injection system being on that thing?? SWEET! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) That's the first time I've ever actually seen it used in an LSx application, in an operational vehicle! |
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Jul 16 2007, 07:50 PM
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Collo Rosso Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,220 Joined: 3-August 05 From: San Antonio, TX Member No.: 839 |
QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 16 2007, 10:25 AM) Derhaag still makes bodies for the 4th gen t/a+gt1 cars or you could convert it to c5 or c6 I would imagine. Put an olds cutlass body on it! For some reason I always liked those in trans-am guise. |
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Jul 16 2007, 09:49 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,528 Joined: 13-January 07 From: Solebury, Pa. Member No.: 1,589 |
QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jul 16 2007, 03:50 PM) QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 16 2007, 10:25 AM) Derhaag still makes bodies for the 4th gen t/a+gt1 cars or you could convert it to c5 or c6 I would imagine. Put an olds cutlass body on it! For some reason I always liked those in trans-am guise. Are there year/make body style limitations/age limits in GT1, like there are (were) in Trans Am?? |
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Jul 16 2007, 10:35 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
Positive offset is my front wheels. 12" wide and only 2" on the face side and 10" backspace. That way the control arms can be nice and long.
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=101 And it is INCREDIBLY nice to be able to get to everything fairly simply. I've worked on plenty of production based cars-that-are-raced and as you mention, a lot of it is huge PITA to work around. Additionally by the time you are done, you still have a lot of limitations. Sure it isnt cheap nor is it done in a few weekends, but for less than the cost of a used z06 I'll have a car that will destroy a whole ton of cars (p-cars, f-cars, vette, viper, etc) and it is based on a Coleman catalog. HA! I always liked the olds bodystyles also but my favorites were the lt1 4th gens and the DeKon Monzas. I actually had two sets of DeKon bodywork when I bought this project and sold them both to help pay for it. For gt1, there is a TON of legal bodies. For Chev it is all gens of camaros, monzas, 63+ vettes, lumina, monte carlo and beretta. Buicks can be regals or somersets, and Olds can be Ciera, Cutlass, toronado and aurora (LOVED the aurora IMSA GTS cars!!!). There there is the firebirds, grand-prixs and fieros. Not all are T/A legal, but they can all run scca regionals and nationals. I'm just crossing my fingers that T/A makes a comeback. Costas cars and such... |
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Jul 17 2007, 03:24 AM
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Collo Rosso Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,220 Joined: 3-August 05 From: San Antonio, TX Member No.: 839 |
QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 16 2007, 04:35 PM) I'm just crossing my fingers that T/A makes a comeback. Costas cars and such... Me too, I'm hoping they do something that slots between Speed World Challenge GT and Touring. Ponycar only and production based. That would be bad-ass. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) |
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Jul 17 2007, 04:25 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,511 Joined: 14-November 04 From: Homer Glen, IL Member No.: 540 |
QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jul 16 2007, 10:24 PM) Me too, I'm hoping they do something that slots between Speed World Challenge GT and Touring. Ponycar only and production based. That would be bad-ass. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) American Iron? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) |
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Jul 17 2007, 02:15 PM
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Collo Rosso Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,220 Joined: 3-August 05 From: San Antonio, TX Member No.: 839 |
QUOTE (nape @ Jul 16 2007, 10:25 PM) QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jul 16 2007, 10:24 PM) Me too, I'm hoping they do something that slots between Speed World Challenge GT and Touring. Ponycar only and production based. That would be bad-ass. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) American Iron? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Something that might actually be on TV. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif) Also, I don't see the mfr's flocking to AI any time soon. Get the detroit 3 in there fighting it out with their latest offerrings and you could see something that resembles T/A's heyday. |
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Jul 18 2007, 09:44 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 83 Joined: 24-September 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 1,372 |
Did you get the mounts for the pushbar fabbed up yet??
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Police-Car-...tem230151801969 |
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Jul 18 2007, 10:23 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
BWAHAhahahahaha
Nice one Alien! FWIW, the car hopefully fires up in the next day or two, dyno apt for Saturday afternoon and possibly make MSR-C for member track days on Sunday for a shakedown. Everyone please cross your fingers. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) Costas cars and such... |
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Jul 23 2007, 04:31 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
No dyno and no track time this weekend. Driveshaft and oil filter issues crippled the weekend, but in the end they both got resolved and TONS of other stuff got done.
In fact, if I felt a little more loopy I could walk out into my garage, drop into the Kirkey, flip the master, ignition and fuel pump switches and hit the button. She'd bark to life (she sounds SO FRAKKING ROWDY!!!) and I could ease in the clutch, drop the jerico in first and go terrorize the living crap outta my neighborhood....and then go to jail I'm sure. Anyway, we have a pretty much UN-dyno'd and UN-shook down car. Lots of phone calls to make tomorrow and with any luck we'll be heading to VIR in the next few days. There are only 3 chevrolets entered and the other two are corvettes (a c4 and a c5). If we make it, we'll be the ONLY f-body in the event! Bored? An update with some pics: http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch80.htm Costas cars and such... |
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Jul 23 2007, 04:39 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 23 2007, 12:31 AM) No dyno and no track time this weekend. Driveshaft and oil filter issues crippled the weekend, but in the end they both got resolved and TONS of other stuff got done. In fact, if I felt a little more loopy I could walk out into my garage, drop into the Kirkey, flip the master, ignition and fuel pump switches and hit the button. She'd bark to life (she sounds SO FRAKKING ROWDY!!!) and I could ease in the clutch, drop the jerico in first and go terrorize the living crap outta my neighborhood....and then go to jail I'm sure. Anyway, we have a pretty much UN-dyno'd and UN-shook down car. Lots of phone calls to make tomorrow and with any luck we'll be heading to VIR in the next few days. There are only 3 chevrolets entered and the other two are corvettes (a c4 and a c5). If we make it, we'll be the ONLY f-body in the event! Bored? An update with some pics: http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch80.htm Costas cars and such... sweet car I assume that you will be making a cover for the DS and trans????? |
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Jul 23 2007, 01:47 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
> sweet car
thanks (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) > I assume that you will be making a cover for the DS and trans????? well...then how would I check u-joint play down the front straight? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) yup, covers will be made! Costas cars and such... |
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Jul 23 2007, 03:21 PM
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Collo Rosso Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,220 Joined: 3-August 05 From: San Antonio, TX Member No.: 839 |
Hot!
Good luck kicking some ass at the UTCC. |
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Jul 23 2007, 11:38 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 326 Joined: 10-July 04 From: Houston, Tx Member No.: 392 |
So one of my co-workers showed me that page at work today and I was thinking what a bad ass car, then he was telling me how you were comming in to get some tires mounted up or something (might of heard it wrong) anyways, you bringing the car? lol.
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Jul 24 2007, 02:14 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,876 Joined: 3-July 04 From: Pearland, Texas Member No.: 385 |
VERY nice. Good luck with the shakedown cruise!
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Jul 24 2007, 05:59 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 23 2007, 09:47 AM) > sweet car thanks (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) > I assume that you will be making a cover for the DS and trans????? well...then how would I check u-joint play down the front straight? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) yup, covers will be made! Costas cars and such... Ok good idea! |
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Jul 25 2007, 05:59 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
Stang Killer, where do you work? With Ryan? If so, yes I was going to come by but was running out of time and had a buddy of mine bring in the big set (14" wide fronts, 14.5" wide rears) and get them mounted.
Mkay...well....I'm at a loss for words. Really. And I am pretty talkative. This car is insane. Totally, 100% frakking insane. I've driven some serious machinery. Big hp, lots of grip, big brakes, blah blah blah. It's all crap. Went to my sUpAR seKrEt test site today and wrung the heck out of the car. Oh MY GAWD I can't describe it effectively. It was just insane. So, with a test that showed the car can move under its own power in all four gears, the brakes stop the car and the steering turns the car, we are headed to VIR tomorrow morning. It is likely not to smart to go with an UNsorted car...but hey....sometimes you gotta throw the dice. Long odds, yes, but hey, I wasn't doing anything else this weekend anyway. Costas cars and such... |
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Jul 25 2007, 09:50 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 326 Joined: 10-July 04 From: Houston, Tx Member No.: 392 |
QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 25 2007, 12:59 AM) Stang Killer, where do you work? With Ryan? If so, yes I was going to come by but was running out of time and had a buddy of mine bring in the big set (14" wide fronts, 14.5" wide rears) and get them mounted. Costas cars and such... Yeah I work with Ryan, altho I left early. I feel sorry for whoever had to mount thoes tires, lol. |
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Jul 25 2007, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping) Went to my sUpAR seKrEt test site today and wrung the heck out of the car. Oh MY GAWD I can't describe it effectively. It was just insane. Ahh... Texas. They got day long roads out there... |
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Jul 27 2007, 10:24 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
I even pimped FRRAX on the nose and rear quarters!!
http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/1.JPG http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/2.JPG Costas cars and such... |
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Jul 28 2007, 05:27 AM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 27 2007, 06:24 PM) I even pimped FRRAX on the nose and rear quarters!! Costas cars and such... I love you man!!!!!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) |
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Jul 28 2007, 01:57 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8 |
well i see its on the track in those pics. how'ed it handle?
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Jul 29 2007, 09:52 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 28 2007, 08:57 AM) well i see its on the track in those pics. how'ed it handle? It was mostly a dream to drive. I'm writing the long event story now. When the car is more sorted, I'll bet it will be even more phenominal. We need to change up some things and she'll be down for a while, but it will all be for the much much better! Test: http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch81.htm Should have the main writeup done tonite or tomorrow. During the VIR test (Thursday at lunch) for the full course I pulled some acceleration data from the DL1 and found the car needs 5.1 seconds to go from 60mph to 120 mph. As a comparison, the C6 Z06 (a mid-11 second car) needs 7.4 seconds to go from 60-120. If we started at the same time at 60mph, by the time the Z06 was at 120, I'd be passing through 139mph and less than a tenth away from hitting 140. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/gr_eek2.gif) As you drop the hammer from 2nd or 3rd gear pretty much everything gets blurry except whatever you are specifically focused on. Takes a while to get used to that. And this is with no tune, just conservative timing and a little rich. I'll get it on the dyno and get it tuned right and hopefully find more power. Costas cars and such... |
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Jul 30 2007, 03:38 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
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Jul 30 2007, 04:04 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
The official short story:
It was run as a time trial event which means if you go 4 off in any session all your times for that session do not count. The first session also does not count. At the end of the first session, with NO completely clear lap we were fourth overall and 2nd in class. The second session I went off due to a steering rack coming loose (not all the way, just wiggling) at the very end of the session and we had put down times to keep us 2nd in class. The third session I only got a lap and a half when I threw a wheel weight on the front straight and got an evil vibration (at over 150 in the braking zone) that apparently loosened/shook the oil pump pulley and the belt worked its way off half a lap later and I pulled off. I don't think the motor is hurt bad or anything (it spins and makes oil pressure) but I've got to redo the rack mount and the motor needs to come out anyway (slight front trans leak also). Also need to lengthen the wheelbase by moving the pumpkin back (will need longer links, lengthen driveshaft and move watts-link pickup points), change the radiator mounts to lay the radiator forward and vent the hood (downforce baby!) and put on a front splitter. Scratcher V2.0 should be back in action in a few months. So we never got an official event time and thus a DNF/DNS. UNofficially, we scared a lot of folks. The car is stupid fast and handles very well and brakes great. I'm stoked as can be and grinned like a baboon the whole way home. It goes from 60-120 in less than 5.1 seconds while a c6 z06 takes 7.5 seconds (and runs an 11.5 quarter). That is with conservative timing and running rich. The brakes are great, the steering is light and has good feel, the handling with matched tires was awesome and the car responds well to wing and rake changes. It is a beast, but not that tough to drive. It inhales pavement at a voracious rate. On the back stretch at VIR (running the long course) I was passing through 165 with about half the straight left and eased out of it as I was out of gear. On the front straight I was past 150 before the first bend. OMFG. In second or third when you drop the hammer whatever you are focused on is fine, but everything else gets blurry. Simply amazing. I wish we had got a time in the second session as we easily had 2nd place in class, but I'm not all about the woulda/coulda/shoulda. We took a huge risk with an unknown car that had never been ran on a track and we took a long-shot gamble. Sure it would have been sweet had it paid off, but looking at the big picture I'm fine with it. The car survived (no wrecks or damage) and it is a joy to drive. It will only get considerably faster and more reliable as time goes on and hopefully they have one next year and we get invited. We'll go back and redeem ourselves. We were (as is typical with a new car) making huge strides with minor tuning. Cody diagnosed real-time tire temps and we make some changes to the front end and balance for the third session and even though we only got the lap and a half we were SECONDS faster for the first portion of the track before the oil pump belt ejected. Amazing. Anyway, the long story will be up soon...but now you know the short story. Costas |
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Jul 30 2007, 05:49 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 545 Joined: 6-January 04 From: Germantown, MD USA Member No.: 99 |
I can vouch for the hot temps at VIR this past week-end, as I was an instructor for the NASA HPDE groups.
Got to see this car and all the cars in the UTCC and they were awesome to watch. From Tommy Archer in a pro Viper Comp Coupe to a prep'd '85 Ford Fairmont station wagon. This post has been edited by PF Flyer: Jul 30 2007, 05:50 PM |
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Jul 30 2007, 07:47 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4856592644408864175
My second time going into T1 at VIR. Missed third going to Nascar Bend...shifter ball came loose in my hand. My rig in the center (all black) at the beginning. Crank the sound. Costas |
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Jul 30 2007, 09:19 PM
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Nothing says 'I love you.' like a box of Hydroshoks Group: Moderators Posts: 5,284 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 30 2007, 02:47 PM) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4856592644408864175 My second time going into T1 at VIR. Missed third going to Nascar Bend...shifter ball came loose in my hand. My rig in the center (all black) at the beginning. Crank the sound. Costas (IMG:http://www.mtcnet.net/~bierly/shock.jpg) |
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Jul 31 2007, 03:08 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 30 2007, 03:47 PM) THAT's F'ing NUTS! I'm grinning from ear-to-ear just watching that (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Congrats, (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) that's a sweet car. |
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Jul 31 2007, 07:50 PM
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TAMSCC... Whoop!
Nice ride. |
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Aug 1 2007, 12:42 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 620 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Chester, VA Member No.: 22 |
I'm grinning ear to ear just hearing it!
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Aug 1 2007, 02:48 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
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