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atakacs
post May 9 2007, 05:36 AM
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Ok it's like this: At my last AX I was probably 6 seconds slower than the avg for my class, ESP on what was mostly a 50-60 second course. Most cars were mid to low 50s and a Z06 even ran a 49. My best was a 60. I am literally one of the slowest drivers at the event. I'm on stock tires which I know sucks, but... even when I let a buddy drive my car, he got a better time than me the 1st time ever driving it so I know it's me, not the car. I mean... there's a guy in a lightly modified CTS-V on street tires that gets better times than me!!!

I ran a few AXs last year... 3, maybe. How can I improve or practice without spending several years doing it? We get so few runs per event and then I couldn't attend the local driver's school, and I'll miss about 4 of the AX events over the summer for work as well as the EVO school. I thought about setting up some cones in a Wal-Mart parking lot after hours but I'm sure the cops would show up in no time... so I tried something different. I got a Logitech/Momo racing wheel & pedals for the PC and a few driving games/simulators like NFS and GTR2. I'm not sure how good they are at making you a better driver... unfortunately I think they made me more cautious, not more competitive.

So what do I do? I'd like to be competitive by the end of the year and recognized as the most improved this year. Do you think there's any hope?

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Joe Silva
post May 13 2007, 03:29 AM
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our local regions(kansas/salina/KC/wichita) allow you to run twice as long as you work twice. Work 1/drive 2/work 3/ drive 4......This is what i did and it seemed to help me alot, I still do it from time to time. It really allows you to get some reflection while working the second time to see some of your mistakes and think about it, plus a chance to correct them!

SEAT TIME is the best way to making you faster, i also like the advice of allowing a better driver ride with you or co-drive with you in the same heat.
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post May 13 2007, 08:26 PM
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Guys, I went to another AX today at Ohio Valley Region and I am still miserable. Fast time of the day was 40.x Most faster cars were 44.x My personal best was a 51.0. I wasn't the slowest car of the day... someone ran a 60. I asked about double entry at registration and I was told no. 5 runs = $30 & a 2 week wait for more runs (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I'm taking almost 3 weeks off and hopefully I will get a few events in during that time, including an EVO school at BeaveRun. I'll keep you updated.

Thanks for all the support.
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post May 15 2007, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE (atakacs @ May 13 2007, 02:26 PM) *
Guys, I went to another AX today at Ohio Valley Region and I am still miserable. Fast time of the day was 40.x Most faster cars were 44.x My personal best was a 51.0. I wasn't the slowest car of the day... someone ran a 60. I asked about double entry at registration and I was told no. 5 runs = $30 & a 2 week wait for more runs (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I'm taking almost 3 weeks off and hopefully I will get a few events in during that time, including an EVO school at BeaveRun. I'll keep you updated.

Thanks for all the support.


You were over three seconds faster than me. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I'm right there with you, aiming for that "Most Improved" award. Of course, that means improving.

I've made out a calendar of events within a two hour drive of Columbus for the summer. If you want, you can run every single weekend between now and September, at least. There are events in Cincy, Dayton, Columbus (obviously), Toledo, Akron and Cleveland. BeaveRun does occasional weeknight events, and there are a few weekends that you can double dip and hit both Saturday and Sunday.

Miami Valley Sports Car Club is running this Saturday night at the Nutter Center. I'm probably heading down there with a friend/co-driver. You're welcome to caravan along, if you like. There are also events in Toledo and Cleveland on Sunday.

Thanks to all of the experienced guys with their comments, particularly the part about resisting the urge to get on faster tires. I have a used set of Azenis asymmetricals sitting in my garage looking for a set of rims (they were free). At what point should I ditch my off-brand all seasons (treadwear 480 (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif) ) and graduate into those? I won't even think about running Hoosiers this season, as I'd rather spend the money on entry fees and gas.

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post May 20 2007, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE (TrackAddict @ May 15 2007, 01:30 PM) *
Thanks to all of the experienced guys with their comments, particularly the part about resisting the urge to get on faster tires. I have a used set of Azenis asymmetricals sitting in my garage looking for a set of rims (they were free). At what point should I ditch my off-brand all seasons (treadwear 480 (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif) ) and graduate into those? I won't even think about running Hoosiers this season, as I'd rather spend the money on entry fees and gas.


I'd go ahead and use the Azenis now, hard all seasons have to be terrible
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atakacs   How to go from horrible to respectable?   May 9 2007, 05:36 AM
Mojave   Step 1: Seat time, go to every event possible, out...   May 9 2007, 05:42 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Mojave @ May 9 2007, 01:42 AM) Edi...   May 9 2007, 12:10 PM
KeithO   Good advice. Also, check your local event venues ...   May 9 2007, 10:02 AM
Jeff97FST/A   Course walks. Like our Novice Chief says, "I...   May 9 2007, 10:27 AM
z28jeff   Probably the cheapest, fastest, and easiest way to...   May 9 2007, 12:17 PM
CrashTestDummy   Work on the driver first, the car second! If ...   May 9 2007, 02:17 PM
CMC #37   What these guys said! Do the driver mod...inst...   May 9 2007, 03:36 PM
slowTA   I've been autocrossing for 10 years and just s...   May 10 2007, 03:17 AM
DavidDymaxion   In addition to what others have said: See if you ...   May 10 2007, 05:09 AM
Unbalanced Engineering   There are three things that will make you faster. ...   May 10 2007, 02:31 PM
atakacs   Guys, thanks for all the input. Some of it is rea...   May 11 2007, 05:00 PM
DavidDymaxion   Yes, one car in AX can have 2 drivers. Generally t...   May 11 2007, 09:34 PM
Mojave   QUOTE (atakacs @ May 11 2007, 12:00 PM) 5...   May 11 2007, 11:53 PM
atakacs   QUOTE (Mojave @ May 11 2007, 07:53 PM) QU...   May 12 2007, 03:48 AM
Mojave   QUOTE (atakacs @ May 11 2007, 10:48 PM) Q...   May 12 2007, 04:11 AM
RVachon   What they said, and if you want to practice using ...   May 11 2007, 07:16 PM
Blainefab   I'll repeat a few things that have been advise...   May 11 2007, 09:00 PM
KeithO   atakacs - I won't be at BeaveRun for the Evo s...   May 11 2007, 09:19 PM
Joe Silva   our local regions(kansas/salina/KC/wichita) allow ...   May 13 2007, 03:29 AM
atakacs   Guys, I went to another AX today at Ohio Valley Re...   May 13 2007, 08:26 PM
TrackAddict   QUOTE (atakacs @ May 13 2007, 02:26 PM) G...   May 15 2007, 06:30 PM
atakacs   QUOTE (TrackAddict @ May 15 2007, 02:30 P...   May 20 2007, 03:42 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (atakacs @ May 19 2007, 11:42 PM) w...   May 21 2007, 02:07 AM
atakacs   QUOTE (trackbird @ May 20 2007, 10:07 PM)...   May 21 2007, 03:07 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (atakacs @ May 20 2007, 11:07 PM) O...   May 21 2007, 11:52 AM
Blainefab   QUOTE (TrackAddict @ May 15 2007, 01:30 P...   May 20 2007, 09:35 AM
TrackAddict   QUOTE (atakacs @ May 19 2007, 09:42 PM) w...   May 20 2007, 06:26 PM
CMC #37   One thing you gotta correct is putting yourself do...   May 13 2007, 10:02 PM
z28tt   When you're driving, do you notice mistakes? T...   May 14 2007, 03:29 AM
gopanoz   Get some used rims and some used race tires whenev...   May 14 2007, 03:38 AM
atakacs   sure bet local driver's school or take a chanc...   May 20 2007, 04:23 AM
atakacs   If I don't run on R-compounds, should I run in...   May 20 2007, 06:01 AM
rickshank   QUOTE (atakacs @ May 20 2007, 12:23 AM) s...   May 20 2007, 12:13 PM
atakacs   QUOTE (rickshank @ May 20 2007, 08:13 AM)...   May 21 2007, 02:04 AM
atakacs   Guys, an update from the front: I invested in a C...   May 24 2007, 05:37 AM
Blainefab   QUOTE (atakacs @ May 24 2007, 12:37 AM) I...   May 24 2007, 11:26 AM
atakacs   I drove 3 hours today up to NwOH's driver scho...   May 27 2007, 03:02 AM
TrackAddict   QUOTE (atakacs @ May 26 2007, 09:02 PM) I...   May 28 2007, 05:36 PM
atakacs   QUOTE (TrackAddict @ May 28 2007, 01:36 P...   May 29 2007, 04:34 AM
TrackAddict   QUOTE (atakacs @ May 28 2007, 10:34 PM) Q...   May 29 2007, 01:23 PM
trackbird   Sorry I didn't make it out to this one. My com...   May 29 2007, 05:47 AM
atakacs   I thought I'd give everyone an update on my pr...   Aug 10 2007, 05:39 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (atakacs @ Aug 10 2007, 01:39 AM) I...   Aug 10 2007, 11:18 AM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (atakacs @ Aug 10 2007, 12:39 AM) I...   Aug 10 2007, 01:09 PM
atakacs   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Aug 10 2007, 09:0...   Aug 10 2007, 01:47 PM

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