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ansonivan
post Feb 23 2011, 02:44 PM
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Hi, I'm from Columbus OH, part of a group from the GRM forum who are assembling a LeMons/Chump team around a 1985 Camaro.

I have zero f-body experience and have a backround in vw/bmw so I have much to learn.

The car is a v8/5speed with several layers of paint/bondo/rust, our plan is to run a mild 350 through a t5 and 9 bolt limited slip rear axle.
We have some hope of making the April 16-17th race at Gingerman but it's going to be one hell of a push to make the event.

A roll cage is the first order of business, at this point it's a toss up between a pre-bent kit from S&W or another supplier or me spending the time to make templates and have Tubular Techniques bend a cage.

List of parts we're looking for, cheap cast off stuff and local preferred

transmission cross member
t5 bellhousing
clutch/flywheel
clutch fork
clutch master/slave/line
pedal box

front calipers - standard size or larger
rear calipers
performance pads
torque arm
Twin Fans
Radiator
16" wheels

The car prior to being extracted from a snow bank in Scott OH
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Behind my shop awaiting drivetrain/safety items
(IMG:http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5254/5462380742_dfd4916d1c_z.jpg)

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matt f
post Feb 24 2011, 03:51 PM
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I wish I had seen this earlier. S W is local to me, but I went with rollcagecomponents.com, out of VA. He built us a nice cage, which is actually a little more than lemons legal. I think it cost 660 shipped. 1.75 DOM, 2 nascar bars, 2 pass door bars, verticles, dash bar.

Look at the new rules regarding the 24 sq" spreaders if you haven't already.

As far as cooling, couldn't you just cut a large hole out of the nose to improve airflow? You don't get going fast enough (110 ish) to lose much to aero. Whatever you do, bring a spare radiator, if not an entire spare car.

BTW, It took me a ridiculous amount of time for the car to get done, but we took time for a TNT day about 6 weeks before the race at Summit. We got zero sleep thursday working till 2 am, then towing out before the race and worked on the car all day friday until about 6 PM too.

One of the best experiences I've ever had.
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post Feb 24 2011, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE (matt f @ Feb 24 2011, 07:51 AM) *
As far as cooling, couldn't you just cut a large hole out of the nose to improve airflow?


That alone would be a big step backwards - there is more engineering to the radiator intake on both 3rd and 4th gen cars than is obvious. I've improved cooling by patching holes in the front fascia.

My advise is leave all the bodywork and shrouds bone stock and install a new, racing racing radiator with all gaps sealed. Use the OEM fans, make sure both are running and the blades are in good shape, fit to the new radiator with the minimum amount of trimming.

To change to front breather requires a sealed duct from the front of the car and an airdam to build high pressure air in front. ie: http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?sho...14181&st=70 towards the bottom.

In the Lemons environment the OEM nose will be simpler to keep functional.
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ansonivan   Ohio LeMons team   Feb 23 2011, 02:44 PM
CrashTestDummy   That's a pretty ambitious schedule you have th...   Feb 23 2011, 03:21 PM
trackbird   The radiator is a 31x19" standard GM radiator...   Feb 23 2011, 03:58 PM
Blainefab   The S&W is a drag race cage, it will not pass ...   Feb 23 2011, 09:52 PM
85t5mcss   If u already have the 9 BOLT (if u meant 9" t...   Feb 24 2011, 12:29 AM
ansonivan   Thank you guys for the input, please keep it comin...   Feb 24 2011, 12:41 AM
Blainefab   QUOTE (ansonivan @ Feb 23 2011, 04:41 PM)...   Feb 24 2011, 12:49 AM
Shortcutsleeping   You may want to look at this thread: http://www.fr...   Feb 24 2011, 06:16 AM
matt f   I wish I had seen this earlier. S W is local to m...   Feb 24 2011, 03:51 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (matt f @ Feb 24 2011, 07:51 AM) As...   Feb 24 2011, 09:30 PM
Shortcutsleeping   WAIT WAIT WAIT. I instruct in my 92 1le/b4c car ...   Feb 25 2011, 01:21 AM
ansonivan   I will either use my tig welder to install the cag...   Feb 24 2011, 05:53 PM
Shortcutsleeping   and I HUGELY agree with Alan Blaine....getting air...   Feb 25 2011, 01:25 AM
Blainefab   And I agree with Mr Costas - a bone stock 3rd gen ...   Feb 25 2011, 09:42 AM
cozog   I'll donate to the cause... I've got a rad...   Mar 1 2011, 04:01 PM
Shortcutsleeping   QUOTE (cozog @ Mar 1 2011, 10:01 AM) I...   Mar 1 2011, 04:23 PM
trackbird   I thought the LT1 radiator had the inlet and outle...   Mar 1 2011, 04:41 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (trackbird @ Mar 1 2011, 10:41 AM) ...   Mar 2 2011, 02:23 PM
ansonivan   Fantastic, I'm definitely interested in the ra...   Mar 1 2011, 06:41 PM
trackbird   I'm going to try my best to get over to the sh...   Mar 1 2011, 07:57 PM
trackbird   There was a copper/brass 3 core radiator in my Cam...   Mar 2 2011, 02:51 PM
ansonivan   Working on the car this weekend, intending to inst...   Apr 16 2011, 01:46 AM
trackbird   I did an S&W kit in my '89 Formula, fit wa...   Apr 16 2011, 04:17 AM
ansonivan   Once I get past the a-pillar tubes I think it will...   Apr 16 2011, 05:17 PM
matt f   QUOTE (ansonivan @ Apr 16 2011, 11:17 AM)...   May 6 2011, 12:56 PM
ansonivan   Welded the bottoms of everything and then dropped ...   Apr 17 2011, 03:37 PM
CrashTestDummy   Take those pictures with you to tech. The last ev...   Apr 18 2011, 12:32 PM

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