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Smitty2919
post Apr 22 2014, 02:21 PM
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I just began autocrossing and want more more more. My biggest issue is the distance I should drive the car if anything breaks. Right now I keep it within 1hr from my house if I need AAA or something.

I currently have my wife drive our 03 Chevy 2500 HD with tools in it and follow me to the track. It serves as an emergency tow vehicle in so I can find a local Uhaul and rent a trailer to get the car home in a pinch.

I was talking to my father in law about it and he said for YEARS he "flat towed" his 67 Vette to events all over the place before he got a trailer. I live in an apt and have NO room to store a trailer, plus I don't know how serious I will get into racing just yet. All I know is that it's fun and I don't want to be limited by distance so much.

So, that got me thinking. Has anyone fabbed up some brackets/mounts to a 4th gen to tow it like people tow their DD cars behind a motorhome? His 76 has a gaping wide open grill that he was able to find points on the frame to make mounts. My 95 Z may be a little tricky.

My initial thought (without actually poking around) is to use the metal bumper support you can see after taking the factory fog light+bracket out. This eliminates the need to put holes in the bumper cover and seems to be the right height off the ground for an attachment point fairly level with a truck hitch?

Opinions? Comments?
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post Apr 22 2014, 08:27 PM
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It's a manual. Makes me think what people do that drive all over the country with a motor home and their DD being towed behind it. 90% of those cars are autos....Jeeps/Kias etc.

Yes it could be driven TO an event with her in the truck behind me. But have the tow bars in the truck just in case.

But the issue of damaging the trans etc would still exist. I didn't think that a free spinning trans in neutral would cause issues.

I could remove the DS and use a plug...I don't mind the "at home track preparation", just add it to the list of items to pack up...tools, air tank etc.

I would be the one making this, and since I'm betting nothing on the market exists for these cars, it would be custom made. Just a matter of WHERE you would attach the
mounting brackets to on the car itself. The most robust/sturdy spot would be the K member. And that's X amount of feet behind the nose of the car.
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post Apr 22 2014, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE (Smitty2919 @ Apr 22 2014, 03:27 PM) *
It's a manual. Makes me think what people do that drive all over the country with a motor home and their DD being towed behind it. 90% of those cars are autos....Jeeps/Kias etc.

Yes it could be driven TO an event with her in the truck behind me. But have the tow bars in the truck just in case.

But the issue of damaging the trans etc would still exist. I didn't think that a free spinning trans in neutral would cause issues.

I could remove the DS and use a plug...I don't mind the "at home track preparation", just add it to the list of items to pack up...tools, air tank etc.

I would be the one making this, and since I'm betting nothing on the market exists for these cars, it would be custom made. Just a matter of WHERE you would attach the
mounting brackets to on the car itself. The most robust/sturdy spot would be the K member. And that's X amount of feet behind the nose of the car.


Many of those 'jeep-type' vehicles are 4WD/AWD, with a transfer case that can be shifted into neutral, letting things spin between the diffs and transfer case w/o spinning the transmission tailshaft. The big issue with autos is it needs the pump to move fluid, and that'll usually keep the tailshaft bushings lubricated. If the pump isn't pumping the fluid doesn't move much, and you risk burning up the tailshaft bushing and seals.

With a T-56, you'd have to determine whether or not enough parts are spinning inside (output shaft and maybe some idler gears) to keep the fluid flying around the inside of the transmission when in neutral with the rear wheels rolling.

Plugs exist, and since they're pretty cheap, you can modify them to 'clip on' somehow, so you don't risk loosing it enroute, and dumping fluid out that back:

http://www.summitracing.com/search/part-ty...order=Ascending

Personally, I'd save up for a trailer, and a boat stall rental.
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Smitty2919   Tow Bars on 4th Gen?   Apr 22 2014, 02:21 PM
CrashTestDummy   Is your Z an auto or standard? While I'm not ...   Apr 22 2014, 05:11 PM
ReEntryRacer   As far as the damage to the transmission, auto or ...   Apr 22 2014, 07:49 PM
Smitty2919   It's a manual. Makes me think what people do t...   Apr 22 2014, 08:27 PM
InfernalVortex   QUOTE (Smitty2919 @ Apr 22 2014, 04:27 PM...   Apr 22 2014, 09:43 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (Smitty2919 @ Apr 22 2014, 03:27 PM...   Apr 22 2014, 10:44 PM
Jacks2000   Some manual transmissions the cluster gear doesn...   Apr 22 2014, 10:18 PM
KeithO   Consider buying an open trailer and finding a plac...   Apr 23 2014, 02:56 PM
roostmeyer   Another thought, at least around here, U-Haul char...   Apr 23 2014, 05:39 PM
mercutio   AAA Plus will tow you up to 100 miles. And they...   Apr 25 2014, 03:21 PM
Al weyman   I used to tow my 2nd Gen all over the UK to variou...   Apr 25 2014, 08:11 PM

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