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> GRM UTCC - VOTE FOR ME!!, Fellow FRRAXer trying for the Ultimate Track Car Challenge
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post Jul 17 2007, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE (nape @ Jul 16 2007, 10:25 PM) *
QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jul 16 2007, 10:24 PM) *
Me too, I'm hoping they do something that slots between Speed World Challenge GT and Touring. Ponycar only and production based. That would be bad-ass. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)


American Iron? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)


Something that might actually be on TV. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif) Also, I don't see the mfr's flocking to AI any time soon. Get the detroit 3 in there fighting it out with their latest offerrings and you could see something that resembles T/A's heyday.
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post Jul 18 2007, 09:44 PM
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Did you get the mounts for the pushbar fabbed up yet??

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post Jul 18 2007, 10:23 PM
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BWAHAhahahahaha

Nice one Alien!

FWIW, the car hopefully fires up in the next day or two, dyno apt for Saturday afternoon and possibly make MSR-C for member track days on Sunday for a shakedown.

Everyone please cross your fingers. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif)


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post Jul 23 2007, 04:31 AM
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No dyno and no track time this weekend. Driveshaft and oil filter issues crippled the weekend, but in the end they both got resolved and TONS of other stuff got done.

In fact, if I felt a little more loopy I could walk out into my garage, drop into the Kirkey, flip the master, ignition and fuel pump switches and hit the button. She'd bark to life (she sounds SO FRAKKING ROWDY!!!) and I could ease in the clutch, drop the jerico in first and go terrorize the living crap outta my neighborhood....and then go to jail I'm sure.

Anyway, we have a pretty much UN-dyno'd and UN-shook down car. Lots of phone calls to make tomorrow and with any luck we'll be heading to VIR in the next few days. There are only 3 chevrolets entered and the other two are corvettes (a c4 and a c5). If we make it, we'll be the ONLY f-body in the event!

Bored? An update with some pics:

http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch80.htm

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post Jul 23 2007, 04:39 AM
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QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 23 2007, 12:31 AM) *
No dyno and no track time this weekend. Driveshaft and oil filter issues crippled the weekend, but in the end they both got resolved and TONS of other stuff got done.

In fact, if I felt a little more loopy I could walk out into my garage, drop into the Kirkey, flip the master, ignition and fuel pump switches and hit the button. She'd bark to life (she sounds SO FRAKKING ROWDY!!!) and I could ease in the clutch, drop the jerico in first and go terrorize the living crap outta my neighborhood....and then go to jail I'm sure.

Anyway, we have a pretty much UN-dyno'd and UN-shook down car. Lots of phone calls to make tomorrow and with any luck we'll be heading to VIR in the next few days. There are only 3 chevrolets entered and the other two are corvettes (a c4 and a c5). If we make it, we'll be the ONLY f-body in the event!

Bored? An update with some pics:

http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch80.htm

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sweet car

I assume that you will be making a cover for the DS and trans?????
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post Jul 23 2007, 01:47 PM
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> sweet car

thanks (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

> I assume that you will be making a cover for the DS and trans?????

well...then how would I check u-joint play down the front straight?

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yup, covers will be made!


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post Jul 23 2007, 03:21 PM
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Hot!

Good luck kicking some ass at the UTCC.
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post Jul 23 2007, 11:38 PM
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So one of my co-workers showed me that page at work today and I was thinking what a bad ass car, then he was telling me how you were comming in to get some tires mounted up or something (might of heard it wrong) anyways, you bringing the car? lol.
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post Jul 24 2007, 02:14 PM
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VERY nice. Good luck with the shakedown cruise!
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post Jul 24 2007, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 23 2007, 09:47 AM) *
> sweet car

thanks (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

> I assume that you will be making a cover for the DS and trans?????

well...then how would I check u-joint play down the front straight?

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yup, covers will be made!


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Ok good idea!
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post Jul 25 2007, 05:59 AM
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Stang Killer, where do you work? With Ryan? If so, yes I was going to come by but was running out of time and had a buddy of mine bring in the big set (14" wide fronts, 14.5" wide rears) and get them mounted.



Mkay...well....I'm at a loss for words. Really. And I am pretty talkative.

This car is insane. Totally, 100% frakking insane. I've driven some serious machinery. Big hp, lots of grip, big brakes, blah blah blah. It's all crap.

Went to my sUpAR seKrEt test site today and wrung the heck out of the car.

Oh

MY

GAWD

I can't describe it effectively. It was just insane.

So, with a test that showed the car can move under its own power in all four gears, the brakes stop the car and the steering turns the car, we are headed to VIR tomorrow morning. It is likely not to smart to go with an UNsorted car...but hey....sometimes you gotta throw the dice. Long odds, yes, but hey, I wasn't doing anything else this weekend anyway.


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post Jul 25 2007, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 25 2007, 12:59 AM) *
Stang Killer, where do you work? With Ryan? If so, yes I was going to come by but was running out of time and had a buddy of mine bring in the big set (14" wide fronts, 14.5" wide rears) and get them mounted.


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Yeah I work with Ryan, altho I left early. I feel sorry for whoever had to mount thoes tires, lol.
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post Jul 25 2007, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping)
Went to my sUpAR seKrEt test site today and wrung the heck out of the car.

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GAWD

I can't describe it effectively. It was just insane.



Ahh... Texas. They got day long roads out there...
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post Jul 27 2007, 10:24 PM
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I even pimped FRRAX on the nose and rear quarters!!

http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/1.JPG

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post Jul 28 2007, 05:27 AM
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QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 27 2007, 06:24 PM) *
I even pimped FRRAX on the nose and rear quarters!!

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I love you man!!!!!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)
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post Jul 28 2007, 01:57 PM
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well i see its on the track in those pics. how'ed it handle?
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post Jul 29 2007, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 28 2007, 08:57 AM) *
well i see its on the track in those pics. how'ed it handle?


It was mostly a dream to drive. I'm writing the long event story now. When the
car is more sorted, I'll bet it will be even more phenominal. We need to change up
some things and she'll be down for a while, but it will all be for the much much better!

Test: http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch81.htm

Should have the main writeup done tonite or tomorrow.

During the VIR test (Thursday at lunch) for the full course I pulled some
acceleration data from the DL1 and found the car needs 5.1 seconds to go
from 60mph to 120 mph. As a comparison, the C6 Z06 (a mid-11 second car)
needs 7.4 seconds to go from 60-120. If we started at the same time at 60mph,
by the time the Z06 was at 120, I'd be passing through 139mph and less than
a tenth away from hitting 140. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/gr_eek2.gif)

As you drop the hammer from 2nd or 3rd gear pretty much everything gets blurry
except whatever you are specifically focused on. Takes a while to get used to that.

And this is with no tune, just conservative timing and a little rich. I'll get it on the
dyno and get it tuned right and hopefully find more power.

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post Jul 30 2007, 03:38 AM
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http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch82.htm

http://www.witchdoctormotorsports.com/ch82page2.htm



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post Jul 30 2007, 04:04 PM
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The official short story:

It was run as a time trial event which means if you go 4 off in any session all your times for that session do not count. The first session also does not count. At the end of the first session, with NO completely clear lap we were fourth overall and 2nd in class. The second session I went off due to a steering rack coming loose (not all the way, just wiggling) at the very end of the session and we had put down times to keep us 2nd in class. The third session I only got a lap and a half when I threw a wheel weight on the front straight and got an evil vibration (at over 150 in the braking zone) that apparently loosened/shook the oil pump pulley and the belt worked its way off half a lap later and I pulled off. I don't think the motor is hurt bad or anything (it spins and makes oil pressure) but I've got to redo the rack mount and the motor needs to come out anyway (slight front trans leak also). Also need to lengthen the wheelbase by moving the pumpkin back (will need longer links, lengthen driveshaft and move watts-link pickup points), change the radiator mounts to lay the radiator forward and vent the hood (downforce baby!) and put on a front splitter. Scratcher V2.0 should be back in action in a few months.

So we never got an official event time and thus a DNF/DNS.

UNofficially, we scared a lot of folks. The car is stupid fast and handles very well and brakes great. I'm stoked as can be and grinned like a baboon the whole way home. It goes from 60-120 in less than 5.1 seconds while a c6 z06 takes 7.5 seconds (and runs an 11.5 quarter). That is with conservative timing and running rich. The brakes are great, the steering is light and has good feel, the handling with matched tires was awesome and the car responds well to wing and rake changes. It is a beast, but not that tough to drive. It inhales pavement at a voracious rate. On the back stretch at VIR (running the long course) I was passing through 165 with about half the straight left and eased out of it as I was out of gear. On the front straight I was past 150 before the first bend. OMFG. In second or third when you drop the hammer whatever you are focused on is fine, but everything else gets blurry. Simply amazing.

I wish we had got a time in the second session as we easily had 2nd place in class, but I'm not all about the woulda/coulda/shoulda. We took a huge risk with an unknown car that had never been ran on a track and we took a long-shot gamble. Sure it would have been sweet had it paid off, but looking at the big picture I'm fine with it. The car survived (no wrecks or damage) and it is a joy to drive. It will only get considerably faster and more reliable as time goes on and hopefully they have one next year and we get invited. We'll go back and redeem ourselves.

We were (as is typical with a new car) making huge strides with minor tuning. Cody diagnosed real-time tire temps and we make some changes to the front end and balance for the third session and even though we only got the lap and a half we were SECONDS faster for the first portion of the track before the oil pump belt ejected. Amazing.

Anyway, the long story will be up soon...but now you know the short story.


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post Jul 30 2007, 05:49 PM
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I can vouch for the hot temps at VIR this past week-end, as I was an instructor for the NASA HPDE groups.

Got to see this car and all the cars in the UTCC and they were awesome to watch.

From Tommy Archer in a pro Viper Comp Coupe to a prep'd '85 Ford Fairmont station wagon.

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