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ansonivan
post Feb 23 2011, 02:44 PM
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Hi, I'm from Columbus OH, part of a group from the GRM forum who are assembling a LeMons/Chump team around a 1985 Camaro.

I have zero f-body experience and have a backround in vw/bmw so I have much to learn.

The car is a v8/5speed with several layers of paint/bondo/rust, our plan is to run a mild 350 through a t5 and 9 bolt limited slip rear axle.
We have some hope of making the April 16-17th race at Gingerman but it's going to be one hell of a push to make the event.

A roll cage is the first order of business, at this point it's a toss up between a pre-bent kit from S&W or another supplier or me spending the time to make templates and have Tubular Techniques bend a cage.

List of parts we're looking for, cheap cast off stuff and local preferred

transmission cross member
t5 bellhousing
clutch/flywheel
clutch fork
clutch master/slave/line
pedal box

front calipers - standard size or larger
rear calipers
performance pads
torque arm
Twin Fans
Radiator
16" wheels

The car prior to being extracted from a snow bank in Scott OH
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Behind my shop awaiting drivetrain/safety items
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trackbird
post Mar 2 2011, 02:51 PM
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There was a copper/brass 3 core radiator in my Camaro when I bought it. It was grafted into our Lemons Supra (it was HUGE compared to the stock radiator). The other Supra teams seemed to be having issues with cooling but we never did. I suspect that radiator played a large part in our victory in that race. We just kept turning laps.
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post Apr 16 2011, 01:46 AM
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Working on the car this weekend, intending to install an S&W cage. Obviously missed the April race at Gingerman, now using the pre-sanctioned marital calendar time to catch up on the car (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The main and top hoops fit the car quite well, the A-pillar/down tubes are less than good. I did try inverting the tube so that the short bent section is at the top but that results in the tube being very far from parallel to the A-pillar.

All tacked progress so far, input most welcome.

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post Apr 16 2011, 04:17 AM
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I did an S&W kit in my '89 Formula, fit was just about identical to yours. I was hoping they'd improved over the years.
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post Apr 16 2011, 05:17 PM
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Once I get past the a-pillar tubes I think it will be fine, notching for the top hoop connection is a nightmare since I have to join on the bends which are slightly deformed from the bender. Lots of grinding.
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ansonivan
post Apr 17 2011, 03:37 PM
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Welded the bottoms of everything and then dropped the a-pillar tubes through the floor in order to 360 all the welds. Went with tig because it's more fun than mig.

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post Apr 18 2011, 12:32 PM
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Take those pictures with you to tech. The last event we did they really went over the hidden welds in the hoop and halo, and had failed several due to incomplete welds. Demonstrating that you went through the trouble may get you through tech faster.
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post May 6 2011, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE (ansonivan @ Apr 16 2011, 11:17 AM) *
Once I get past the a-pillar tubes I think it will be fine, notching for the top hoop connection is a nightmare since I have to join on the bends which are slightly deformed from the bender. Lots of grinding.



Be careful with any deformed tubes, the tech guy, John (evilgenius) will be all over them.

As far as radiators, if you show up with a new one, they'll be all over that in BS. If you have a new one, leave it in the box and replace it "sometime during the race"

BS laps shouldn't matter, though as a great goal for your first race should be to take the checkered flag under your own power.

The only way we're going to be able to put a V8 in the T bird is that it went up in flames last race and we got 350 to spend from Jay.

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