 Offset upper control arm bushings, DONE and for sale |
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 Jul 14 2006, 09:07 PM
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Experienced Member  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76  |
$175 a set.
What do you get? 4 delrin offset bushings, steel sleeves, machine screws, instructions, and about .5 more camber than you have right now. And all ESP legal if you happen to care about rules. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Not cheap, because they weren't easy to get made and that costs money (especially in limited quantities). I've got 16 sets total. Some are already sold or "reserved" by customers I know will be buying them. I figure I have 10 sets up for grabs right now, and if there is a need, I'll make more. |
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Oct 2 2006, 02:40 PM
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Grumpy Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,722 Joined: 1-January 04 From: Bakersfield CA Member No.: 81 |
Last set sold (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I hope.....
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Oct 2 2006, 04:33 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
Wheeler got the last set......
From here I need to get confirmed orders to make another run as I know the market is getting saturated and don't want to end up sitting on a bunch of them. |
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Oct 2 2006, 11:13 PM
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Grumpy Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,722 Joined: 1-January 04 From: Bakersfield CA Member No.: 81 |
Thank you Sam!
Once again you came through! This post has been edited by firehawkclone: Oct 2 2006, 11:13 PM |
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Oct 8 2006, 03:02 PM
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Grumpy Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,722 Joined: 1-January 04 From: Bakersfield CA Member No.: 81 |
Just an fyi
With a slotted k-member and these upper bushing, I can get almost 3 on camber and 4.5 on caster! maxed! Mine is set at 1.8 and 6.2 with a ride height F 6" R 6 3/16" I'm sure Sam will make another batch if need be (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Oct 9 2006, 08:18 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
And I'd be happy to have more made for you guys. But wishing upon a star isn't going to cut it. I need confirmed orders this time!
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Oct 17 2006, 05:29 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
Bringing this back to the top because I have two confirmed orders for more. I'm not making more until I have 10 solid orders. So we need 8 more to get something rolling on another batch.
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Oct 27 2006, 06:56 PM
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newbie Group: Advanced Members Posts: 6 Joined: 25-December 05 Member No.: 1,022 |
***SOLD*** , thanks. Disregard below.
First $175 takes them. No need to wait for the next batch to be made, mine are available now. Buyer pays UPS ground shipping. send email to briandoll at comcast dot net Brian Doll This post has been edited by briandoll: Nov 10 2006, 11:13 PM |
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Oct 27 2006, 07:11 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
Are you sure the bushings you have are legal? There was some talk about some prior offset bushings having too much metal content vs. OE. I don't know if it's true, but some folks have been caught cheating before. I'd hate to see you get screwed if that was the case. And no, pleading ignorance is not a defense or we might well have had a different winner in STS @ Nationals. There were things on his car he didn't know were wrong, and got tossed for them.
I sold them already, no skin off my nose if you want to sell them. You just might want to hang on to them until you know you have something legal for sure. Just a thought |
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Oct 27 2006, 08:17 PM
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newbie Group: Advanced Members Posts: 6 Joined: 25-December 05 Member No.: 1,022 |
QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Oct 27 2006, 01:11 PM)  Are you sure the bushings you have are legal? There was some talk about some prior offset bushings having too much metal content vs. OE. I don't know if it's true, but some folks have been caught cheating before. I'd hate to see you get screwed if that was the case. And no, pleading ignorance is not a defense or we might well have had a different winner in STS @ Nationals. There were things on his car he didn't know were wrong, and got tossed for them. I sold them already, no skin off my nose if you want to sell them. You just might want to hang on to them until you know you have something legal for sure. Just a thought Hi Sam, My car is an American Sedan, pertinent rules are in GCR 17.1.7.D.4.d The global west bushings are legal per this ruleset (the way I interpret them...) How are the autocross rules worded? The bushings you make are nice. I just made a mistake and didn't realize the car I bought already had offset bushings installed. Excerpts from the gcr: The gcr is at http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/File/GCR2006.pdf 17.1.7.D.4.d.2. On other forms of suspension, camber adjustments may be achieved by the use of shims and/or eccentric bushings. Rear camber shall be no more than 1/2 degree negative per side. 17.1.7.D.4.d.5. Bushing material is unrestricted except that control arm to spindle ball joints must be stock or equivalent replacement. Original unmodified control arms must be retained. |
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Oct 27 2006, 08:52 PM
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Seeking round tuits Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,522 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Kentucky Member No.: 33 |
QUOTE (briandoll @ Oct 27 2006, 04:17 PM) How are the autocross rules worded? In ESP, they can have no more metallic content that the stock bushings they replace, they may be pinned (to prevent rotation of the offset) but the pin may serve no other purpose, and if the stock bushing uses compliance to allow movement (as both of the lower control arm bushings on a 4th gen do, but especially the caster bushing) then the replacement must also (so a spherical delrin caster bushing is illegal, even if it doesn't shatter). |
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Oct 30 2006, 06:23 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
QUOTE (briandoll @ Oct 27 2006, 03:17 PM) QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Oct 27 2006, 01:11 PM) Are you sure the bushings you have are legal? There was some talk about some prior offset bushings having too much metal content vs. OE. I don't know if it's true, but some folks have been caught cheating before. I'd hate to see you get screwed if that was the case. And no, pleading ignorance is not a defense or we might well have had a different winner in STS @ Nationals. There were things on his car he didn't know were wrong, and got tossed for them. I sold them already, no skin off my nose if you want to sell them. You just might want to hang on to them until you know you have something legal for sure. Just a thought Hi Sam, My car is an American Sedan, pertinent rules are in GCR 17.1.7.D.4.d The global west bushings are legal per this ruleset (the way I interpret them...) How are the autocross rules worded? The bushings you make are nice. I just made a mistake and didn't realize the car I bought already had offset bushings installed. Excerpts from the gcr: The gcr is at http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/File/GCR2006.pdf 17.1.7.D.4.d.2. On other forms of suspension, camber adjustments may be achieved by the use of shims and/or eccentric bushings. Rear camber shall be no more than 1/2 degree negative per side. 17.1.7.D.4.d.5. Bushing material is unrestricted except that control arm to spindle ball joints must be stock or equivalent replacement. Original unmodified control arms must be retained. Probably legal in your case, but I don't have a GCR.. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Nov 15 2006, 06:49 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
Getting close.... need about 3 more orders for the next run to be made.
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Nov 15 2006, 10:04 PM
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newbie Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 19-May 06 Member No.: 1,219 |
Just want to make sure in case I'm wrong, I'm on the list already right?
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Nov 15 2006, 10:36 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
yep.
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Nov 15 2006, 11:26 PM
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newbie Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 19-May 06 Member No.: 1,219 |
Saaaweet.. I'm counting down the days (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif)
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Nov 16 2006, 12:13 PM
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Seeking round tuits Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,522 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Kentucky Member No.: 33 |
I'll take a spare set to stash away. You can put me on the bottom of the list when you start mailing them out (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Nov 16 2006, 04:35 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
QUOTE (sgarnett @ Nov 16 2006, 07:13 AM) I'll take a spare set to stash away. You can put me on the bottom of the list when you start mailing them out (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Umm... ok. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) |
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Nov 28 2006, 05:51 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
I've got 7 confirmed orders on these... and some folks need them sooner than later. I need just a few more to make this run happen. It will be a smaller run, no way am I making 20 car set like I did last time considering I'm having trouble getting 10 folks to go now. Normally, I'd just bag it, but those who need them are serious competitors and HAVE to have the bushings, so I'm doing what I can to help them out.
I want to get this ball rolling, so if you have a need for a little more negative camber and either can't run aftermarket a-arms due to rules, *OR* don't want to drag the extra weight of them around, now is the time to act. |
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Nov 29 2006, 01:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 413 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Schomberg, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 59 |
QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Nov 28 2006, 01:51 PM) I've got 7 confirmed orders on these... and some folks need them sooner than later. I need just a few more to make this run happen. It will be a smaller run, no way am I making 20 car set like I did last time considering I'm having trouble getting 10 folks to go now. Normally, I'd just bag it, but those who need them are serious competitors and HAVE to have the bushings, so I'm doing what I can to help them out. I want to get this ball rolling, so if you have a need for a little more negative camber and either can't run aftermarket a-arms due to rules, *OR* don't want to drag the extra weight of them around, now is the time to act. Count me in. Not as much camber as with my control arms but I might have to take these off next year. |
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Nov 29 2006, 05:32 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
Ok, I think we're really close to getting this going.
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